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Calculate Focal Point

06/24/2013 4:47 PM

What is the formula for calculating the focal point line of cylindrical segment;that is, a cylinder sliced lengthwise?Such as a tube with a segment removed?

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06/24/2013 5:00 PM

r = 0, but it works only if the energy source is on the cylinder's axis.

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06/24/2013 5:01 PM

The foci would that be the length way of the center (axis), because it is slice lengthways. if you need the formula follow lyn's link

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06/24/2013 5:43 PM

I think this is what you are looking for but, it will not work with a cylinder segment. You need a parabolic surface to have a focal point.

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06/24/2013 6:01 PM

Doesn't need to be parabolic. Can be a section of a sphere or an ellipsoid.

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06/24/2013 6:18 PM

If I remember right r/2 can be used as an approximation for a spherical mirror but I think that only works for a small segment.

EDIT: Usbport posted while I was typing and stated it much better than I did.

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06/24/2013 6:10 PM

If you're using the cylinder as a reflector, like a shiny metal tube sliced lengthwise, the focal length is 1/2 the radius of the cylinder - for light coming from 'infinity' or some distance much, much greater than the radius.

Note that the focal point will be a blur spot (or in this case a blurry line), since for light coming from infinity you need a parabolic shape, rather than a circular cylinder to get a sharp focus.

If the light is not coming from infinity, then use this equation to find I, the image distance:

1/f = 1/O + 1/I, where f is focal length, O is the distance to the object and I is the image distance. Again, f is one-half the radius. You need to solve for I.

If the cylinder is a clear glass or plastic cylinder used as a lens, then you need to use the lens-makers equation. In this case the simple form is:

1/f = (n-1)·[1/R1].

Here f is focal length, R1 is the radius of the cylinder, and n is the index of refraction of the glass or plastic.

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06/24/2013 6:25 PM

This has everything one could want.

Colors, circles and arrows. Focus (geometry),

Point F is a focus point for the red ellipse, green parabola and blue hyperbola.

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06/24/2013 7:05 PM

... except for the geometry for a circular section of a cylinder, where e = 0. Which is what the Anon Poster described.

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06/24/2013 7:08 PM

I don't care. I think it's homework anyway.

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06/24/2013 7:10 PM

What about the Petzval Field Curvature? Maybe the AP needs to know that, too.

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06/26/2013 10:32 AM

This is not homework.I found a piece of corrugated metal pipe,made from aluminum, and think it would make a good heat reflector for a camp fire, to direct the heat in a preferred direction.I am trying to calculate the focal distance.It is a lengthwise 1/2 slice of what appears to have been a 4 foot diameter pipe.I realize the corrugations will tend to scatter the reflection and complicate the calculations, but a general rule is adequate for this purpose.The 1/2 Radius I think will suffice.I wish it were a parabola,but it is what it is, and I think it would be very difficult to reform into a parabola.

Thanks to everyone for their helpful links and suggestions.

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