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Is there a Mfg Co. that would take my item on board?

03/26/2008 2:11 PM

I have an invention being made out of state as I speak here. I know it will be a desired product because I have surveyed years of clients and this problem routinely comes up.

I cannot discuss what my item is for obvious reasons. Patent is ongoing.

A manufacturing company for pet items is what I am looking for.

But, this is my first and energetic attempt at trying to find an already existing company who I could license my product to for sale across the US.

If I'm not looking in the right place here, please let me know where I could search and maybe find what I am looking for. Thanks much and have a great day!

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03/26/2008 2:16 PM

Is your product made by injection molding only

or does it need to be blow-molded?

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03/26/2008 2:26 PM

Your gonna have to do legwork, and then more legwork. You'll have to take it to pet equipment manufacturers, and if they think it will sell, they will pay you. I would suggest a good patent lawyer, so you don't get screwed.

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03/26/2008 2:42 PM

A few cautions. There are few "hard" patents. A hard patent is one that can't be worked around just by changing the design. Patent lawyers will sell "design" patents to anyone who will buy one. They are next to worthless. Honest patent lawyers will tell you this.

Read up on protecting your ideas, not just patents. There is a method which involves sending a registered letter to any company you contact about your idea. Ask your patent lawyer.

If, by chance, your idea is made of cloth I can give you the name of a company near me who makes and sells pet clothes. I will have to find it again since it is two towns away from me.

You might wish to retain control of the product. You can usually have it manufactured and packaged by the same firm. This requires that you do the advertising, publicity and other marketing. It can cost as much as a new car. (Just trying to put things in perspective.)

Consider displaying at the pet supply show. It is yearly and usually is in Chicago. Make up a sign stating "Reps Wanted". Manufacturer's reps attend this show regularly. If you go this route, read everything you can on using manufacture's reps. Google "agency sales" for a good start.

I don't know how much you know about injection molding but trust me it requires many thousands up front. Molders often have to call 911 after telling inventors the costs associated.

Test market if at all possible. Never assume that what people tell you about your ideas is accurate. Most people will tell you what they think you want to hear. Never believe anyone until they put their money down.

Finally, if you do go ahead with it send me a personal message and I will send you a CD or two with enough marketing research to keep you busy for a few years. We crackpot inventors have to stick together.

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03/26/2008 2:54 PM

Good answer Skell! You gat a GA from me.

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03/26/2008 3:02 PM

Does he mean that the product is a product intended for pets?


Or its a product manufactured out of PET (a kind of plastic) ?

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03/26/2008 9:23 PM

I hope it's not manufactured out of Pets....I'm locking up my dog and I have a gun (well, a gun is an understatement, but slowly back away from the dog and keep your ideas where I can see em...)

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03/26/2008 11:28 PM

didnt mean that its manufactured with our pets....


PET is short for Polyethylene Terephthalate

... and its a type of plastic

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03/26/2008 11:41 PM

<in a very quiet voice>shhhhh, I know what PET plastics are, but I was making a joke...<Just nod and smile, nod and smile...I'll go away eventually>

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03/26/2008 11:44 PM

no... I did get your joke .... I just thought that it might confuse others lol

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03/26/2008 11:56 PM

nope, just me...but that's ok, I'm both easily confuzzled and amused...ohh, look, pretty flower....

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03/27/2008 12:45 AM

There is a reputable company in Kenosha, Wisconsin, which does "contract molding."

Xten Industries: Here's a link to their website: http://www.xtenindustries.com

You supply the mold. They do the molding.

A basic mold, for say, a hand sized product, without a lot of complexity to it, costs a minimum of $35,000.

The beauty is, the product will eventually cost about $0.50 to make, once the volume is up.

This company manufactured a product sold on QVC or Home Shopping Network, two crystal clear bowls, with dividers. You bought the set, then filled the slots with candies, or grains, or seeds, or gravel, or M&Ms, or whatever you liked. You used it as a center bowl. It was a big hit with the purple hair crowd.

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03/27/2008 6:01 AM

Hello Rikki,

I'm not sure if you can find the correct forum to find the answers you need, but you will surely get some valid contribution from here.

At some point, you must disclose your idea to a potentially interested party. Patent Pending is good, because, unlike an awarded Patent, the information is not yet disclosed publicly. Still, and unfortunately, Patents are just fodder for the legal system, and the only one who really makes money in any litigation is the attorney (sorry to all my attorney friends). I have been deposed several times, and often the conclusions are lengthy and rarely "good" for either party.

Although just another "piece of paper" what I (and my clients) often resort to is an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) which allows me or them to discuss the details of my or their ideas enough to see if there is interest or not ... feasibility (cost, manufacturability, etc.) or not. If you need, I can offer you a general mutual NDA form which you can use or plagiarize from, or you can probably find some good ones on-line. I wouldn't personally spend money with an attorney for this.

In my own experience, one of the best ways to find a viable ally is to approach brands of similar products and see if they are willing to buy your idea. Generally, they already have a supply chain which manufacturers for them, and can either manage that part, or put you in contact with the appropriate persons.

It will take some research on your part, and you will find many brands who are not even interested in chatting with you, but if you are diligent you may just find a good and profitable "partner", not only for this idea, but for possible future ideas.

Good luck.

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03/27/2008 1:49 PM

under seperate cover I will send you a confidentiality / non disclosure device that you may find helpful -

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03/27/2008 4:09 PM

If you are still in the design stage, you might try Protomold.

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03/28/2008 5:53 AM

I wish you luck but be forewarned. You many need the patience of Job to find someone who is interested. Very few firms take care of business. I attended a "Job Shop" trade show a few months ago and left six requests for quotes with spring manufacturers. Not one ever contacted me. Recently I sent out six RFQ's for plastic extrusions and received only one back.

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03/28/2008 8:40 PM

Hi Skelley,

What you say is sad but true. As a manufacturer, we try to at least offer feedback. Not every request is viable, but my feeling is the request at least deserves a reply.

What makes little sense to me is that in these obviously difficult times, why any business is not jumping through hoops to gain new relationships. I coiuld say that their 'bad' business ethics gains us more market share, but the fact is that our own supply chain also lacks the business sense to do good business and make good relationships.

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03/28/2008 11:32 PM

Hi,

If your idea is as viable as you say, it has huge potential. Possibly,though, (and don't be offended by this), it may have more drawbacks than advantages. We currently manufacture two battery-dependent devices whose entire design is reliant on a certain amount of continuous current. The audio amplifiers are already tracking demand to negate the need for a continuous current draw, so I'm not sure what else can be done. BUT, its your invention, and that's the nature of invention ... realizing what others haven't.

Regarding China (or any other country where you are not protected), the danger is real. Yes, China is notorious for "borrowing" ideas from others without regard to ownership, but there are genuine companies here who 'play by the rules'. The patent system in China is actually stronger than the States, in my opinion. But, of course you have to file here. I have patents here. BUT, the issue of patent protection is a little slippery in any case, AND they are only legal where they are filed. You could have the same problem in any country where you are not patented.

Here's a thought for you to consider. My company is always looking to add to our portfolio of ideas and technologies which we, in turn, can offer to our customers. We have used other patented processes and items in other designs wherein a royalty was paid to the owner of the patent for every unit sold. In other cases, we purchased the patent outright. If your idea is viable (again, please don't take offense), we might strongly consider it.

If you're interested, post a response with your email address, and we can chat about this further.

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