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What Technology Will be Lost When You Die?

08/23/2008 11:32 AM

In the course of Human History, knowledge has been gained and lost and gained again. Some knowledge has been lost forever as when certain libraries have been destroyed, books burned, or people have died. What is it you know that will be lost forever when you die?

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08/23/2008 8:37 PM

Hopefully not much. One of the reasons that I post on this forum is so that my approach to problem solving will be shared with others.

I would say that my photos and writing have a somewhat singular approach, but they should be accessible through my publisher's online archive, my employer, and my family.

But I can see that my one daughter sees with a camera like I do, so... Hopefully not too much.

(I am trying to create a "project gutenburg type of knowledge retention file" of all my metallurgical experiences, solved problem, test procedures and data.)

As well as my recipe for bran muffins and spanish rice.

Great question.

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08/25/2008 8:59 AM

Ah yes... a fellow Photographer & cook...

So why not document your 2 recipes here? I bet you may find a number of us will archive them for you in our vaults.

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08/24/2008 1:35 AM

I have often thought that there must be a safe repository of inventions which could not make it to the market for various reasons. It should then be possible for any company to shop for ideas in the repository or library of ideas and if any of it appeals to them they can negotiate with the inventor. Often an idea may be ahead of its time or have no use at the time, but latter it could becomes relevant. I know that is what patent offices do. But few lone inventors can defend their ideas and often they are never filed and die with the inventor.

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08/24/2008 1:55 AM

Very good idea!

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08/26/2008 1:34 AM

Worth Patenting!

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08/24/2008 1:40 AM

When my grandma had gone at the time we(family, friends) have losed a greatest recipes how to cook some of delicious meals that only she could do.

In terms that every human beings is containing a whole world either even Universe if you like, so everyone of us who eventually gone is taking a lot of secrets of Universe.

As for me, I do agree with Milo and here's left only to add that when I'll gone world will lose my viewpoint difinitelly. Hopefully it won't be a huge loss :).

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08/24/2008 4:07 AM

Maybe one should take knowledge and hot inventions along.

(Heat reflection and heat to power)

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08/24/2008 7:01 AM

Every person gains different kind of experience and that actually molds the personality.

Technical people tend to acquire vast knowledge but mainly remain a learner throughout their lives because their hunger for knowledge is never satisfied.

Your question is very appropriate as it is always better to keep on dissipating knowledge as you gain them for the good of the mankind.

CR4 is one of such forum.

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08/24/2008 12:50 PM

Whatever items of knowlege you haven't passed along or applied by the time you die will be lost for sure. There will surely be some nuggets of information that someone could have used. That is already happening with technical literature that hasn't been translated from the originator's language into the user's language.

An interesting question then - what would happen if there was a quantum leap in library science - and information could be more efficiently stored, catalogued and disseminated. I know how lengthy and difficult a search can be through bibliographies and library cards on paper. We still treat information as paper-bound books and journals, even on the internet. Maybe we are on the cusp of a new information age.

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08/25/2008 12:00 PM

THERE IS THAT WORD AGAIN! """ QUANTUM """

I took the trouble to look up the meaning of said word. For the most part, I believe the the terms, large, huge, great , increased, etc are the comprehensive norms. However; I also see an explanation regarding minimal changes that result in maximum results. Therefore: I theorize that Scientists and Engineers should be a little more careful with the use of the term "Quantum" as it may mean something small rather than large.

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08/25/2008 1:45 PM

Hi TMF. Interesting point.

Sometimes words get "adopted" popularly that differ from their original use.

The usage of quanta (quantum) when I was in school was in terms of discrete "packages" of energy. In Chemistry, it was the specific amount of energy required for an electron to go from one electron shell to the next shell. it was always a particular value for the particular shell to shell jump. and that was the amount of energy given up on its way to the lower energy state shell.

You couldn't just go incrementally from one shell to another, unless you had the "whole package of energy." So even though the quanta itself is a minimum quantity, it is the "all or nothing nature" of it that gets confounded in most people's popular usage. They mean it as an abrupt all or nothing change, rather than a gradual continuous one.

When I hear it in casual conversation, I generally interpret it as "a whole nother (energy) level. rather than a mere gradual or incremental improvement.

When Newton and Goethe were fussing over color theory, the term used was "corpuscularists." That was their way of saying "discrete or particle like."

Fresnel was the leading proponent of the "wave theory" (projectilist)with Poisson and others sticking to 'corpuscularism.' Nowadays we say quantum.

Those of you who know better and in greater detail, thank you for not picking this simplification apart.

My all time favorite has to be the word "virtually" whichactually has a sense of "not in fact" But we are disposed to think of it as meaning "almost certainly."

virtually - in essence or effect but not in fact; When they say that Cascade leaves your glasses "virtually spotless", they know darn well that they mean "Your glasses will not in fact be spotless, but they will be nearly so."

US consumers hear " virtually spotless" and think "oh boy, my glasses will almost certainly be spotless!"

Pavlovs dogs...

Thats whats in a word.

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08/25/2008 3:24 PM

Well said, "Milo"! I find it amazing just how easily one individual can be totally convinced that I may have made a statement that he wanted to hear, and expected to hear, "when the statement I may have made was exactly the opposite. The fact is that there are many words that began as noises and over the years have conjured up the ability to actually have a meaning. FANTABULUS is one that comes to mind. An excited individual hasn't the time or where with all to state that some activity was a "fabulus" or fantastic experience so it became a "FANTABULUS" happening. Then there is this thing called a football, could this mean the ball of ones foot.

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P.S. I think that Tom is capable of constructing a home built air craft. However, I really think that he should sleep on the idea for a little while. He may change his mind about his materials choices several times before he begins construction.

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08/25/2008 6:18 PM

Toomuchfun,

I agree that we should be cautious in bandying words about, especially technical terms. However, in the context that I have used the word in here, it clearly means "big" without any technical subtleties. So reset the old "misused term" alarm and save it for when it is really needed.

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08/25/2008 7:58 PM

No alarm intended Dave, However, there is hardly a blog posted here on CR 4 in which at least some of the so called GURU's don't use the term quantum as if it means a right of passage for certain professionals. Personally however I took latin when I was in Jr. High school, and I found it to be a dead language then, and I'm certain it hasn't been brought back to life.

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08/25/2008 8:24 PM

Hmmm, sounds like guru envy to me....

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08/25/2008 9:18 PM

Hardly Steve! I don't envy folks who can't seem to come up with original solutions to age old problems! After all, even the Govt. finds unique and new ways to create more taxes, while at the same time provides tax credits and spending incentives. GO Figure!

Actually, the only folks I envy are the ones with green thumbs. I don't seem to be able to grow edible tomatoes, squash and any fruit except mangoes, papayas, avacatos and wild stuff that doesn't seem to need my help.

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08/25/2008 8:54 PM

TMF, You are bound and determined to make your point.

While Latin may be a dead language from where you sit, it is a living breathing tool in my toolkit. I find greek and latin prefixes suffixes and root words in nearly every technical term that comes up. And some not so technical Macro photography for instance comes from greek and latin words meaning (Large{image on the film} Light writing)

In fact you have just inspired me to create a blog entry on this topic. I will give this some focussed {focus from the latin word for Hearth} consideration {from Latin cōnsīderātus past participle of cōnsīderāre, to consider.}

I must admit I was A lousy Latin scholar at the time, but the vocab turbo charged my Technical competency as the words seemed to be self explanatory...

Thanks for the inspiration!

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08/25/2008 9:29 PM

Gee Milo! I am pleased to have assisted you. I always try to inspire those who are willing to be inspired to achieve even greater success.

Tho sometimes I get confused with being a ---- ---------! If Latin is your thing, by all means, let nothing stand in your way!

Maybe I'll be able to contribute worth while commentary.

Enjoy

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08/25/2008 9:53 PM

"self explanatory" and flowing like honey from an over heated hive, and sap from a sugar maple tree. "Sic um tiger", maybe I will come up with something worth while to add. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with folks I respect! You are welcome for the inspiration. Least we loose the "Technology" and other "stuff" like "witchin up a well".

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08/26/2008 12:03 AM

I have often wondered why latin became a dead language. It was the language of the Roman Empire, then for many centuries afterward it was the language of learning - universities used it exclusively. Slogans on University buildings are still in latin. Some diplomas are still in latin ( I saw one from MIT - in latin). This was a universal language, so that people from any country could go to any university and immediately understand what was said.

Now the EU Parliament is requiring simultaneous translation for all 200+ languages and dialects spoken in Europe. Imagine how many translators and their proficiency that will be required to go from and to 200 languages. Doesn't latin make more sense as a common language? It worked once.

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My Jr. high tutorial was called latin and the romans. As I remember the words were difficult to pronounce and often had dual meanings, and even more confusing was the manner in which the words were arranged in a statement, not unlike Spanish is to day. I believe that only the Greek Orthodox church speaks in the Arabaic tong, the Muslims speak several varieties as well as the Latinos, Potugese, Dutch and other Krouts and even the Asians sometimes have difficult understanding the art of communication. Here in this nation the black community is often difficult to understand as well as the Southern dialect, the native americans speak in different tongs, what is the world coming to any way. I believe that the Latin language is a cause for most folks. Except for maybe MILO!

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Or Esperanto

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08/24/2008 9:57 PM

Certainly at age 63 I have more knowledge then that at age 20.

Does this total come to a 2 giga byte on a memory stick? Less you say. More? Who knows what a person has in ones brain?

What one learns in life, is from ones mistakes, which is a more important thing then what or how much you Know.

How to cure old age and aging probaly is the most important thing, then as the human race lives longer the learning process which keep on growing, which will bring a better tommorrow.

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08/24/2008 11:01 PM

my strange kind of humor?

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08/25/2008 7:31 PM

"What is it you know that will be lost forever when you die?"

My rugged good looks and my sparkling personality....

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08/26/2008 1:37 AM

Some of the knowledge is transmitted to your next generation also, without you teaching them. It is prooved is experments with Monkeys and other animals

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08/26/2008 10:09 AM

ALL OF MY SECRETE TECHNOLOGY WILL BE LOST WHEN I DIE! that is of course except the stuff I share with MILO. HEY HEY. And of course the stuff that I share with "OUR GANG" out in the greater Denver area. It seems that big petroleum and greedy Govt, does not want my secrete technology made available to the public. Heck, they even took my favorite TV show off the air. McGiver. That guy could find a solution out of any troubling situation.

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08/26/2008 6:05 PM

Daggone now! One of you could have been a little more specific, like how to talk to the Aliens, or Secrets of Warp Drive, or Big Gun manufacturing metulurgy, or Nuclear Missile electromagnetic longrange ingnition disabling of North Korea type weapons and rockets. Post it in Latin, and or Greek, maybe.

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Next life it is my intention to remove my infantile impulse to shout "Ah-ah!" when spying these bozo's (explaining why my voice is so hoarse.). In the next life I hope to know enough to effortlessly slalom around Null Point Masters without cursing, thus making real progress from this life to the next. You are given permission to publish this little known and greatly underestimated factoid (or not). Signed: J. Warren Richardson, Jr.

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