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09/12/2008 4:52 AM

how to build a solar system in private home? any body help me to find drawing and the equipment and materials and where to purchased?

thanks so much,

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09/12/2008 5:36 AM

Leo,

Thats quite a project that you have planned to do, I hope you have a large home because you're going to need:

A Sun

Several planets to go round the sun

Moons to go round the the planets

An asteroid belt and

An occasional comet

There are quite a few diagrams here to show you how to put them all together

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09/12/2008 6:41 AM

Smart-a**e !

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09/13/2008 5:50 AM

Cut him a break. I thought it was funny

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09/13/2008 8:34 AM

Plus, it's better than being a dumb one!

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09/13/2008 12:05 AM

i'm sorry, i mean solar power supply for our small village.

how to build, where to order equipment and materials. and much it will cost.

Thank you very much once again.

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leo

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09/13/2008 8:37 AM

Welcome aboard, Leo, and thanks for the laugh on you!

Looks as if you DID finally get a useful reply, though, and it looks like what you referred to, too. Please come back with questions and an update on progress?

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09/13/2008 2:13 PM

Do you just want to supply just electrical power?

- Which can obviously be generated by other renewable systems, wind & micro hydro for example. If affordable a mix of systems can give a more reliable / constant supply of power.

Hot water can be achieved more efficiently (financially) by direct solar power, but has problems in transportation unless one is dealing with a central building or close housing.

There are cost & efficiency issues depending on the location of the 'generating' plant and the point of use. In some circumstances it is better to have small dispersed dedicated generators rather than a large central unit with the associated distribution.

Storage, whether electrical or heat, is a large part of the project to be considered.

Just a few thoughts to chuck in the mix, I am sure you will get lots of info / help from CR4, good luck.

ps - Al nice to see the British humour & sarcasm is as sharp as ever.

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09/12/2008 6:04 AM

where are you from at first?

then what equipment do you prefer? cell o rheater?

budget? so that we can make a suggestion.

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09/13/2008 8:28 AM

Please visit this web site:bigginhill.co.uk/solar.htm. they have given full instructions about DIY Solar heaters for home.

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09/13/2008 8:32 AM

Hi Leo,

Go Google for solar power or renewable energies. You'll get so many hits you will be reading for days. As CN says it would be better if we knew your location. Depending on the technical and skill levels available to you it may be possible to do quite a lot of the work yourself.

Be careful of salesmen being over zealous with their claims. It is very easy to get sold on extravagant claims. Get references and go to see the installations if possible.

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09/16/2008 3:16 PM

Rule(s) of thumb I've used for US installations:

100 square feet of photovoltaic modules for every one kilowatt of generating capacity; About $4.00 U.S. for every watt of rated capacity for a given module [example--module rated at 150 watts should retail around $600]; Inverter (to convert DC module output to AC, if needed) - one dollar per watt [example==5000 watt DC to AC inverter retails around $5000]; rooftop mounting system approxi. $2500 for "typical" installation; other boxes, switches, wiring/conduit, etc. approx. $500.

Generally we would charge about $9.50/watt for a turnkey installed photovoltaic system, before rebates [example==5000 watt generating capacity = $47.500--figure about a third off, $14,250, when rebates are collected--this was for Southern California] If you have room a ground-mount system might be easier for a DIY,

Figure about $6500 for a set of batteries if you're off grid.

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09/17/2008 3:27 AM

If solar cells are so expensive then is it possible to generate steam from solar heater and run the steam turbine and connect to alternator. I know there will be energy loss due to conversion but you can DIY solar heater which are very cheap to build.

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09/17/2008 11:34 PM

There are a number of large-scale projects in service and in construction that use mirrors to focus sunlight on a tube to heat either water or mineral oil (or other substances) to drive turbines. Abengoa Solar has a number of these projects. Also, Stirling Energy Systems is developing a system using a mirror to heat a media (air I think) to drive a Stirling cycle engine.

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09/18/2008 4:27 AM

Hi, leo agosto!

Welcom to CR4! And congratulations on wanting to help your village with a set of solar panels.

Here are some other methods of obtaining free utilities for your village.

To create hot water for washing, use a solar absorbing panel. There are two ways to do this. One is to store your water in a black water tower. The black colour absorbs the heat from the sun and heats the water inside. This method is used on many homes in Israel. The other way is to snake some black coloured hose back and forth inside a few glass cases whose bottoms have also been painted black and run your hot water supply through them. This method is popular in rural Canada.

To store the hot water, run it into a clean underground pool filled with rocks. The hot water will heat up the rocks and the pool will stay hot for a long time, insulated by being under ground.

After you use the hot water, run your waste water into a double-pit septic tank and renew your fresh water supply through the barrel or hose from the bottom end into your heaters.

To make steam, use a solar reflector with a focus on a barrel of water. The water will become steam, which can be directed out of the top of the barrel with a hose. The system should be closed so that the steam can be condensed after use and returned to the bottom of the barrel as hot water. If the water is not returned to the barrel, the relflector will melt or burn it.

Houses should be built at least half below the surface of the earth. Make the walls very thick. This will help to keep them warmer in the cold weather and cooler in the hot weather. Run rain water off the roofs into barrels in the ground to keep extra water around after it rains. Use bleach in the water to make it drinkable. A very small amount of bleach (an inch in a small cup or tin can) purifies a very large amount of water (a barrel) and prevents water-borne diseases.

Burn local fuel (dung, grasses, corn, bamboo, wood) in a cast iron stove for heating and cooking. Wrap hoses around the stove pipe and run them around the rooms in the houses for more hot water to heat the house in the cold weather.

Wind turbines can be made from a barrel or tin can that is cut in half vertically, and the two sides faced in opposite directions on a common axis that is free to turn. Setting this up almost anywhere there is a whisper of wind will make it turn, and it may be attached to a magneto to produce free electricity.

Using a little water combined with the fecal matter from the humans and animals and kept in a barrel or in a double-pit septic tank, and enclosing the barrel or pits completely with a hose through the top will provide you with a good supply of methane gas coming through the hose, which can be directed to lanterns for lighting homes and streets and can be used as fuel in gas engines attached to pumps for pumping water from rivers and streams into a field for watering crops. The overflow from the first pit will go into your septic system via the second pit. The first pit will maintain the biodigester. Be sure to place a few screens between the hose and the lanterns so you do not explode the barrel or pit. The screens will prevent flames from travelling back along the gas-filled supply lines.

Solar energy is great for producing hot water, but if you also want to produce heat and light with it directly, you will need solar panels, which are expensive. These are some other approaches that you can do yourself.

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09/18/2008 7:04 AM

Very handy, man (as your ID name would suggest!). Voted you a GA for the input.

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09/18/2008 5:55 PM

Yes, it is easy for a chimp like myself to get caught up in things--how many people comprise your village and, roughly, where are you located? if you are still monitoring this, what--more or less--do you want to accomplish? These parameters will go far in determining what will best accomplish your goals...

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