Discussion of the Possibilities of the Impossible!!

Great post! Thats what I am talking about!

Now the responses....

super conducters in solar panels in space. insulate them with Aerogel and use the coldness of space to help keep the super conductors cold to make solar panels more efficient. for the space station at least, until we either make a ribbon connecting the earth to the space station for a space elevator and run the electricty down that, or send electricity using microwaves (laser beams)

Ok I am not up to speed on much of this but basics of insulating and super conductors are pretty main stream......

Superconductors operate best within a given temperature range if you can regulate the temperature to this range then it might be possible....

To insulate is basically creating a layer that resists temperature change, in your case you want to use absolute zero of space for the coolant and the heat dissipation of the electronics for the heat....

So to possibly pull it off you would need to have a space between the insulating layer and the heat source to collect the heat and a regulated vent into space to let the cold in the right amount in order to keep the super conductor components in the best operating range.

So Go for it!

use foam insulation from houses to help keep venice from sinking. in middle school i walked on water using several strips of pink foam insulation. a square foot of it can hold nearly 200 lbs afloat.

I am not sure about foams the few I had experience with have draw backs.....

The 2 worst are that over time they water log and 2nd the many of the expanding foams have a tendency to eaten by fungus and such.....

But still there is merit in the idea as I understand the problem over there, there was to much oil drilling and the pockets of natural gas as well as the oil was removed and these pockets filled with water......

So how about this altered solution Take polyethylene marbles filed with air or something like it that would not break down when exposed surrounding elements, and then pump them down the old well shafts displacing the water restoring much of the lost buoyancy to the city from beneath ware it was in the beginning!

How about it Possible?

take computer circuit boards, and istead of making them flat and 2d, roll them up into tubes.

I am not sure about the intent but OK go for it!

forget horse power... hampster power! put a hundred hampsters in running wheels, and attach the wheel to a generator. give them caffeine or crack to keep them going.

I am not positive But I think the professor on Gilligan's island beat you to the punch on this one...

But good try!

strap face masks on ex-g/f's to capture CO2. help reduce the depletion of ozone.

You got me puzzled on this one need more to go on!

kill sperm whales to reduce the rising acidity of the ocean. we all know why the ocean is so salty...

I did not now that was a current problem, but isn't that a little extreme! Poe Poe Whales!

remove all politicians from office and send them out to pasture to help fertilize our economy cuz they are all full of shit.

This is grate but what would it dew to mother earth, Having all that bull shit piled in one spot not to mention the methane out put from such a massive pile of crap in such small space, remember the key is parts per million when protecting the environment and what about when they start to form special interest herds just think about the cruelty to such dumb animals! And don't get me started on all the hot air!!!

Thanks things like this are a start!

So to possibly pull it off you would need to have a space between the insulating layer and the heat source to collect the heat and a regulated vent into space to let the cold in the right amount in order to keep the super conductor components in the best operating range.

So Go for it!

The only problem is that in the deep space probes (like the voayager space craft) you wouldn't get enough radiation from the sun to make the solar cells work!

You have a valid point. I honestly think solar cells are just the tip of the ice-burg in overall conversion of energy. visible light is such a small fraction of all the different forms of energy out there... we should be looking more into gamma conversion... or something similar, perhaps harnessing CMBR in deep space.

Tesla once conceived the notion of future devices that operated off a static energy source anywhere in the universe. Anyone by chance know the resonance of CMBR and just like a receiver transfer it into electricity. more then likely it would be very weak, but in the darkness of space a computer could possibly run on backup or hibernate in sleep mode with a little cmbr boost until reaching a nearby star and re-charging.

so underneath each section of solar panel there would be little microwave receivers/ transceivers with tiny transformers. a energy source we definitely cant use up, and also one i firmly believe will be the key to future space travel

Regenerative breaking is already in use on electric golf carts, and probably some other small electric vehicles, so that doesn't count as the "impossible".

I wouldnt suggest it if i didnt think it were possible in some way. the impossible of energy efficient ideas is the fact that many people lose money when something is made more efficient... if regenerative breaking isnt new, why isnt it used more often

Sunglasses with a built-in bluetooth are already available. Overpriced, though...

How about the most impossible idea of all time: having an intelligent conversation with a free energy supporting conspiracy theorist?

hey I'm one of those such baffoons... it depends on your idea of an intelligent conversation, mathematics, psychology, biology, geology, archeology, and any other "ology"

anyone who denies the "possibility" of free energy is a close minded right wing Neanderthal

possibility is different then probability, even over-unity fanatics understand that

speaking of wich, i believe a simple South, North, North, order of magnets is key to increasing efficiency of generators

All Nonbelievers are welcome to here the words of those who do and those who do not!

But please restrain yourselves as nonbelievers until the day after eternity when the final truth be know to all what ever it may come to be, 1st book, 3rd verse of the bible of eternal hope for a brighter tomorrow for all! Dreamed of but never written by: Me, Myself, and I. For I believe that I maybe the original triangle unto myself!

now thats a discussion for a different day, but interesting and thought provoking.

Triangles... theres a real discussion. do you think the bermuda triangle really has a black hole or a leak in earths magnetic field?

the earth is nothing but a giant magnet hurtling through space, i say we should do more to harness its energy... free energy, from a large magnet that doesnt seem to be stopping anytime soon. Lets construct a huge ring around the earth, and place copper and silver on the inside to create energy from earths rotating magnetic fields. (Halo) if that helps you visualize. and solor panels on the other side of the halo.

triangles work well with magnets, working in units of 3 allows a balance. say you have 6 magnets in the shape of two interlocking triangles, with north facing OUT, then 21 magnets around them with north facing in. if done right the assortment of magnets on the inside should spin on a bearing with some ease, especialy if you turn them 10 degrees in the same direction, counter clock wise, and the outer magnets clock wise oppossing. the amount of work required to spin these magnets is less then it would be if it were just an aluminum spinning disc. its not free energy, but it makes work easier.

magnets are amazing things, if people pooled their knowledge together of possible ideas and or theories you just might come up with something.

for example, a disc with 6 magnets around its circumfrence will spin when a new single magnet is introduced and occupies the same space of the magneticfield of the other 6, it works like a piston, you move the single magnet in and out of the magnetic field and the disc continues to spin. not free, but cheap energy

I was only trying to point out in a funny way that those who don't believe in anything that might upset their accepted view of what is and or what could be are still welcome here if they wish, but party crashers are not welcome if their only intent is to cause trouble!

Everything posted here is most likely to be imposable, at least until it becomes an everyday part of your lives! At that time it will just be hum drum, same old, same old or at best cutting edge!

The mention of a triangle in my post was my version of of the bible reference and just to be funny!

But as to your triangle what about it being a 2 dimensional portal linking our current earth to our original earth and the great flood that Noah rode out took him from one to the other through it and it never closed afterwards!

And being 2 dimensional it would only be seen and accessible from a point dead straight on, any other approach and it would not be there, which would explain why when they return to the same place the phenomenon occurred it never could be located, because even a fraction of a degree off it simply would not exist.

If all this were some how true it might explain allot of the biblical places that cannot be found because the bible would only be referring to places and events that happened after Noah rode out the 40 days and 40 nights to find himself in the new world, everything that was in the bible before that was not on this world. Plus think about the reports of encounters with the triangle they almost always coincide with massive storms, as such Noah could have passed through such an event with no perception of what had occurred!

As for producing power from sources in space this has been proposed and considered for decades but as you pointed out in your previous post there still is no practical safe method to get it from space to earth. When they can solve this problem You will be next in line for your billions in cash!

I agree an the magnets have many possibilities I myself have a few Ideas about how to make use of them, Although the likely hood is that all but 2 of them would fall prey to the degaussing effects of using them in opposition, the other 2 involve the use of rotating magnetic shielding Disks to create a shutter effect to allow attracting magnets to release then attract.

1 Idea is to use basically a piston engine approach using magnets to pull the pistons to the top. The following link shows some success in this approach....

Maxforce Engine

My 2cnd Idea involves the same basic physics as the Maxforce Engine but instead of a crank shaft I would be using straight shafts with magnets passing in and out of tubes with coper coils around them to directly generate power!

The last Idea I would really like to try, I have the tools and the know how I just don't have the money to buy the materials to try it, my estimates on the materials to try would be between 3 to 5 thousand and then if it worked for testing then you need something along the lines of the outback brand grid inverter, about another 3 thousand, to link it to the grid for a real world test, thats just is not an option on my income! Although if you some how made it to the grid linking stage then the money put in would start to show a return from the sale of the out put to the grid during the testing phase!

But is it not almost always that way, you have means to possibly change your whole financial future but you just don't have the funds to get there!

your suggesting a hidden portal to EDEN, perhaps this 2d portal only opens during a storm, feeding off lightening.

I always liked to think that all the planets were just power houses for the sun, like electrons orbiting an oxygen atom, besides gravity, how else does our core continue to stay molten.

yeah large structures in space are not probable yet, until the impossible becomes possibles.

space flight for example. combustion of fossil fuels obviously isnt the way to go in any transportation, especialy space travel. in a vacuum of space, physics is king, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, couldnt we use an atom smasher for propulsion? in the hull of a circular ship, speed protons to near speed of light, then funnel them out the back and either jet them our or collide them right at the moment of exiting the "exhaust" of the ship. matter gains mass at near light speed, so all that mass of particles in one direction could possibly give propulsion in the opposite direction. either a nuclear power source or some kind of unity device.

maxforce engine, interesting concept, go for it.

im workn on a much more complex device, inadequate thus far, but has great potential for private sector. seeing as nasa will be using the private sector to hitch rides into space, i feel it will be worth while. timing is everything, especialy with motors. it is one of the major factors when implementing magnets, get the timing wrong and a motor will seize.

GPS satelites have 3 atomic clocks on board because precision is key.

could a person make a few dollars by naming different uses for magnets, say a magnetic piston for example. everything has a name and purpose so far in the science community, except magnets, it is very limited because most dont find magnets as a practical power source. hydro electric turbines and wind turbines, and alternators, and those flashlights you shake, these are just about the extent of magnetic energy devices, i want to name the next magnetic invention. B.A.M. Battery Alternator Magnetic motor.

Not only eden but every place and event that was before Noah and his big boat ride!

And 2D means that it has width and hight but no thickness as such the only time it is visible or accessible is when you are facing it straight on at zero degrees, anything other than zero degrees it dose not exist, there for it could be in the same place for all eternity and unless you approach it head on at zero degrees you would never find it even if you were sitting right on top of the spot ware it was located!

Careful when using "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction".....

1st is there is the matter of "The 1st property of mass is inertia" (Bill Nye the Science Guy).. allot of mass takes allot of energy to overcome allot of inertia.....

Then there is the mater of the action itself is causing acceleration in one direction while the reaction is trying to go in the other.....

Not only that just cut out the middle man and use high intensity light for propulsion and don't even think about using high power lasers for propulsion remember light in space dose not stop traveling until it hits something and sometimes not even then, you could end up frying someones but from half way across the galaxy!

Or you could go solar like was proposed some time ago in a galaxy far far away...

Just build the lightest craft possible then deploy massive solar sails and the just ride the solar winds to you destination!

Now the molten core of the earth is easy, its pressure, millions of tons of pressure on the earths core generates extreme heat and that keeps the earths core mega hot! And as I understand it the molten core is rotating which causes our earths magnetic fields.

And the MaxForce Engine is not mine, that video is one that I came across sometime back that showed a fair example of using rotating magnetic shielding to create motion with magnets in attraction.

perhaps my intentions of finding the black hole were pre-mature, i would rather attempt building an impossible star gate then spend my life searching the bermuda triangle. my luck and it turn out to be a magnet bomb and not a wormhole. everything of transition metals and poor metals gets imploded within 100 yards.

we are humans, its our nature to destroy, especialy what we cant see or understand. why would i care if my space ships propulsion burns someone else to a crisp, im cruisn at warp 3 in my caddy listening to weezy.

a lil off topic here... if we met aliens... "IF" possible or not. i think our walkie talkies could kill them... another species from another planet, evolved under different light spectrum, say... a white dwarf system. we use radio waves, what if our radio waves are harmful to them like microwaves to us. and when we first meet an alien race we push the button on our walkie talkie to confirm contact with ET and it makes its eyes boil out of its head... if it has eyes similar to ours... sorry... X-file junky...

I hate sailing... id rather use a destructive force to get where i wanna go... stop bursting my bubble haha

Iron man, the suit may be possible i think, the military has been doing serious tinkering in this field, no where near as advanced... but we got asimo right... just strap a uzi on that honda n make sure theres no stairs in the battlefield... long live gundam.

the arc weld technology... strong electro magnetic pulse forcing mercury and a few other select gas and liquids to rotate around eachother while induced with high voltage electricity. not really sure what to think about this concept.

the earth is nothing but a giant magnet hurtling through space, i say we should do more to harness its energy... free energy, from a large magnet that doesn't seem to be stopping anytime soon. Lets construct a huge ring around the earth,

My favorite was the space shuttle with their electric tether. Told my friends it will not work. Tesla would have laughed his but off. How many feet of wire cutting how many lines of force at how many feet per second. And if it did work pray nothing gets close to your charge before you equalize it.

"but honest general we were maneuvering up to your spy satellite and when the thruster fired lightning shot out of it and fried the satellite. The only other time we saw something flash like that is when that new ten mile long superconducting tether burn through just past the wench just after finished deploying it."

Put the superconductor around the moon Between the solar wind, solar flares, and Earths magnetic field could be a real charge.

Brad

Making creationist seeing the error of their ways?

If you are saying what I think you are, then your answer is not really, Just pointing out the possibilities that in away fit into both reality as seen by man and biblical, nether may contain the whole story alone, but together maybe or maybe not? Oh yes and adding just a little hummer along the way!

After all this is the title of this thread...

Discussion of the Possibilities of the Impossible!!

Oops you are right, the universe only exist about 6000 years.

I would like to see that it would be possible to go beyond the lightsspeed

or that teleportation would be possible, so that star trek would be possible.

Mr. zulu warp factor one.

So we can exploit explore other worlds.

But first we need algea in our gastanks that greates harmless fuel for our vehicles, we do not insert gas but food at the algea food station

Helping those who ought to know better understand, that the advent of thinking beings on Earth was an extremely unlikely happenstance ... and extremely unlikely to have occurred elsewhere, if at all.

Please explain the existence of the laws of logic in a material universe of strictly matter in motion. Everyone, please allow Epke to give an answer first.

What about creating spell checkers that understand context and substitute words wear needed.

I told my doctor I had switched to butter and stopped eating any margarine today. He turned to me and said " you know margarine is only one molecule away from Plastic". I was shocked and thinking about it is wounder now what that molecule could be.

I mean if we could buy it and add t to the margarine we could have all the plastic we ever needed to made repairs.

I would like to see a web site where you could play a game of create a substance by adding molecules, where we could mix anything up and be able to see what we have made with each thing we add. Even see the breakdowns and failure of the substances.

Would this help researchers or in education help to interest kids into becoming Chemist or Engineers.

What about the Possibilities of the Impossible in philosophy?

Yes doctor, heal thy self.

define normal.

'Almost Normal' : Conforming to the behaviour of everybody.

'Normal' : Conforming to the behaviour of almost everybody.

The concept of normality is usually defined by a group of people who are not in touch with reality.

I think is a question of efficiency. Just have a look around you and think if you will support someone investigating "impossible" things (First we should define what we consider "impossible").

Many of the ideas exposed before are not "impossible", just not developed yet which is a quite different thing.

If you want to laugh (or rather cry) have a look at the Ig Nobel Prizes which were awarded few days ago... Some were shared by two investigating teams which demonstrated? just the contrary. Her is a link: Annals of Improbable Research

Kind regards

Free energy drives the universe ...The big bang never ended...Magnetism,and other forms of electromagnetic radiation in the myriad of divisible frequency and wavenumbers ultimately resulted in now and then as well as yet to be...Methinks this site is peopled by poetic romantic members of humanity that realize the fun of being..discovery..openess rules...Marty Wolf relatively new comer to the threaded universe of cogitators on the fringe...

Crazy invention:

A world with a single currency (therefore no today's virtual currencies and exchange rates), and banks that lend and take deposits at standard nominal rates with real assets to back up each transaction (therefore no 'virtual bank products'). In short, a world with no 'bubbles'.

Hey wait! That has already been invented! It used to be that people traded in things of standing value and the early banks only lended what they had in the coffers... See how clever humankind was?

Then we went on to invent flashy economic systems...

I am aware that because of 'prior art' this post may be considered unoriginal. Feel welcome to mark me as off-topic!

Interplanetary travel using repulsion between the suns electrostatic field and a field generated on the surface of the spacecraft. I haven't yet worked out an energy efficient way of getting it into orbit to use this method.

Of course the sun may not have an electrostatic field, but with it's constant output of charges particles it probably does.

something impossible.... I have frequently been reminded that an over unity device violates the laws of thermal dynamics. so frequent it has become mind numbingly obvious, that todays engineers and scientists cant think for themselves. I feel the movie "Idiocracy" may be right. Our intelligence is at a decline, NASA is going out of business, we cant manage our own nations money situation... blah, blah...

Remember a while back... we thought the world was flat, earth was the center of the universe, blood letting cured disease, and rock n' roll was the devil. These were laws of the day, what now are outrageous ideals... So WHY say something cant be done because someone else wrote down an equation that says so... when I personally think there is a flaw in the 2nd "law" of thermal dynamics. I vaguely remember it says something along the lines of Hot-Cold=work... high pressure to low pressure, nothing can achieve 100% thermal efficiency because of some silly Carnot dude. yada-yada

What if I have a isolated system, vacuum sealed for ideal measurements. The Room temperature inside the system is 293k, my heat source is 350k, and the room temperature outside the system is 250k. very reasonable temps... but whats this... a motor that uses a 3rd temperature?? and thermal equilibrium is impossible to achieve because the single motor cant heat the atmosphere? and whats the efficiency? especially if you have a free heat source? thats impossible... magnets have a very large potential energy... so large it takes hundreds of years for it to release that energy into kinetic B field. so... when you have rotating magnets inside loops of cupric wires, electricity is made... at the same time however you have heat loss... it keeps a steady room temp. technically magnets are not free energy, they will deplete over time, and laws are not broken when your using a "free" heat source because your only using a fraction of the overall potential energy.

Carnot efficiency= 1- (Temp H- Temp C/Temp H) X 100%

Ca$h-man efficiency= 1M+ [Temp H- Temp C/(.5)Temp R] X 100%

1M is one free magnetic heat source that you get back what you put into it.

H= Hot, C= Cold, R= Room

(Equation NOT perfected... but rough estimate for prototype...)

by the way, Aluminum Nitride is used to increase the magnetic flux density. only hitch is you have to start the motor by hand for a minute and let the heat build up before it starts to feed back into itself. a simple wind up coil from a grandfather clock does well, runs like clock work...

Go ahead and tell me its impossible, ill tell you its a possibility if you take your head out of your "book" and see whats been under our nose for centuries.

Outside a dog a book is mans best friend, Inside a dog is too dark to read: Groucho Marx

New Idea!

Take a very large body or pool of water or other liquid with similar or better thermal transfer qualities and both large surface area as well as great depth!

Cap the surface with an air tight thermal glass to capture sunlight to the water to replace the heat lost to the environment during non daylight hours!

Assemble a platform containing a waterproof generator powered by a Sterling engine along with the heat collector for the engine.

Place the platform so the whole thing is just below the surface of the water where the heat will collect both from the sunlight and from the heat that naturally will return to the top from the bottom of the body of water!

Place the cooling coil for the sterling engine on the floor of the pool!

Now this is what this all should do......

1st the sterling engine will start running by collecting heat from the hot water at the surface and releasing it into the cold water on the floor of the pool...

2nd the sterling engine will turn the generator that will supply usable electricity.....

3rd the heat created by the generator and the Sterling engine during this process will then be radiated back into the water to be reused by the sterling engine to run the generator again making more electricity...

4th the heat transfered into the colder water on the floor of the pool will rise back to the surface to be reused by the sterling engine to produce more electricity as well, making the floor cold and the surface hot as when the cycle started....

The only variables to consider is.....

The rate of transfer of the heat from the bottom of the pool to the surface....

The rate that the sterling engine will transfer heat from the surface to the bottom of the pool....

The amount of heat loss due to transfer to the environment and making sure that the loss is able to be replenished by the sunlight coming through the thermal glass covering of the pool..

This should give close to 100 percent efficiency the only loss is heat loss to the environment and between the earths natural insulating properties, a few layers of man made insulators, modern thermal glass technologies, and the nature of water to resist temperature change, all loses should be very small and easily more than compensated for by solar heat through the glass over the surface.

Most loss in todays power generation is through heat generated by friction and resistance, this Idea would return these loses back into more fuel rather than losing it to the environment!

That could be used in a Bio-dome, add a few lenses or mirrors to direct unused light into the water. I have seen solar powered sterling engines, so long as theres a 7 degree temp difference it will function, the deeper the body of water the more pressure and colder it would get. possibly a colored die in the liquid, to fractionaly increase heat absorbtion or deflection. maybe even two liquids of different density, like oil and water with the thermal accoustic engine as a medium between the two, since sterling engines run on ice as well as heat, if the 'oil' at the top is warmed by sunlight, and water at bottom is cold, have a second piston at the bottom running on the colder temp.

could glow in the dark materials be used to better store energy from light?

Wireless energy in the home just the same as wireless internet... Using the tesla effect all electronics would have to be coated to protect from emp, but have a small antenna to pick up the energy traveling through the natural media.

With the temperature differences available in space, thermal cycles for conversion of sunlight to electricity could reach efficiencies approaching the 90% mark.

This is fundamentally smokestack technology, the "impossible" part comes in making the system light enough to be able to be sent into space.

I think the approach should be considered, possibly solar cells absorbing and converting a proportion of the visible spectrum, most of the rest being adsorbed to run a steam cycle which bottoms with another working fluid (possibly liquid hydrogen) which would be superheated by the reject heat and condensed by radiation to space.