Previous in Forum: surge arrester   Next in Forum: relation b/w active power and frequency
Close
Close
Close
4 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Participant

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4

Mathematics Computation

12/06/2008 3:24 AM

I am a newbie in electrical engineering and i like to learn a lot.

Hello every one, I need to know the formula of getting the the right formula of building a transformer. Example 220VAC to 14VDC having a current out put of 10Amp and A frequency of 50/60 hertz. How to compute the thichness of the core, the diameter of the wire, number of turns and loses due to heat and the material that is use.

Thanks and regards to all.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4448
Good Answers: 143
#1

Re: Mathematics Computation

12/06/2008 8:03 AM

OK. Good question, but you have to do a little more preliminary stuff first. The output will not have any frequency, except ripple, since it is dc. So, what kind of rectifier are you planning to use, and will you have a filter? Is this just a paper exercise, or do you have access to core material? If so, what source (so we can help with size and material)?

__________________
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it." Elwood P. Dowd
Register to Reply
Participant

Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4
#2
In reply to #1

Re: Mathematics Computation

12/06/2008 9:11 AM

thanks a lot for your immediate reply sir, I used to rewind transformer by using a book but it was not mention any calculation, it was mentioned only the number turns ,diameter of the wire and thickness of the core, I am afraid that it might not give me enough current or power. I usually used an IN 5402 rectifier diode and a filter capacitor of 25V/4700 microfarad. The thickness of the I and E core are also one of my concerned, diameter of the wire and the exact number of primary and secondary turns. I want to build a portable power supply having a regulator and a variable voltage and current.

Again I am an electronic hobbyist and getting more info. to all of you will help me a lot.

your reply and instruction is highly appreciated.

Register to Reply
Power-User
Hobbies - HAM Radio - VE6LDS Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Canada - Member - New Member Engineering Fields - Nuclear Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 284
Good Answers: 10
#3
In reply to #2

Re: Mathematics Computation

12/06/2008 11:38 PM

I always recommend that a person get a copy of the American Radio Relay League amateur radio handbook. It contains a multitude of theory and construction articles. Ham radio may not be your thing but this is an excellent general reference book.

__________________
Semi-retired systems analyst, part time Ham radio operator, full time grandfather.
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
2
Power-User
Hobbies - CNC - New Member

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bronkhorstspruit, Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 128
Good Answers: 9
#4

Re: Mathematics Computation

12/08/2008 3:24 AM

Maybe this will help you.

Transformers

A transformer is a device that consists of a magnetic core with two independent coils of wire wound around the core.

When an electric current flows through the primary coil it produces a magnetic field in the core which then in turn induces an electrical current in the secondary coil.

The voltage induced depends on the rate at which the magnetic field is generated or decays. A direct current will only produce a secondary current when applied or when cut. Transformers are therefore mainly use with alternating current systems.

The purpose of a transformer is to change the voltage (or current) and this can be done by stepping up or down of the voltage. In principal the ratio of the input to output voltage is directly proportional to the number of the turns of the primary to secondary coils.

Electrical losses are mainly resistive losses better known as I2R losses where I is the current in amperes and R is the resistance in ohm. If the current is reduced then so are the losses and for this reason electricity is distributed at high voltages and low currents. The power distributed is the product of the Voltage and the Current:

P = V x I

High voltages are however dangerous and therefore step down transformers are used to convert the supply to low voltage at the point of distribution. Standard transmission voltages range between 20 to 120 kV whilst the outlet voltage range between 110 to 240 Volts for single phase supply.

The standard frequencies of distribution is either 50 or 60 Hertz (cycles per second)

The normal construction of a transformer consists of an iron core made up of thin steel laminates and forming a rectangular frame.

The Legs have a width D and a thickness C. The window inside has a width W and a length L

To design a transformer there are a number of things which are based on experimental data that allows a preliminary estimate of the size and quantity of material required:

· The current density in the copper windings should lie between 1.5 and 2.1 amps per square millimetre

· The volts per turn = 0.012 √watts

· The maximum flux Φ in the iron core should be between 7000 and 9000 lines per square cm

· The flux density B in lines per sq. cm is proportional to the ampere-turns per cm

B 7000 8000 9000 10000 11000
AT/cm 3.5 4.5 5.5 6.5 8

· The loss in the core depends on the flux density and the amount of iron

B max 7000 8000 9000 10000 11000
W/kg 1.1 1.43 1.76 2.1 2.54

· The core area D x C = Φ / B cm

· The approximate dimensions for the core are:

D = √Φ/B

C = D + 10% D

W = 1.4 D

L = 2 to 3 x W

· The induced E.M.F. is

E = 4 k f T Φm 10-8 volts

E = effective E.M.F.

k = constant 1.11 for a sine wave

f = frequency in cycles per second

T = total turns in series

Φm = max flux in lines

· The efficiency η of a transformer is less than 1 due to the losses in the iron and the copper.

P = η V I watt

· The resistance R of the copper can be estimated as

R = lm / (58 x A)

Lm = length of the wire in metre

A = area of the wire in mm2

· The mass of the core will be the volume multiplied by the density of the material. Use a figure of 6 g per cub cm and a density efficiency of 0.9 to allow for the insulation.

M = 2x 0.9 ((L +2D) + W) x C x D x 6/ 1000 kg.

·

__________________
Johan van Niekerk
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Register to Reply 4 comments

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

brainSeeker (1); Johan van Niekerk (1); The_curious_one (1); TVP45 (1)

Previous in Forum: surge arrester   Next in Forum: relation b/w active power and frequency
You might be interested in: Core Shafts and Mandrels, Core Modules, Computers

Advertisement