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Nitrogen Gas for Purging

03/17/2009 3:53 AM

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Could you give me some suggestions about N2 flow required to purge pipe-lines and vessels?

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Re: N2 for purging

03/17/2009 4:07 AM

All that is required is to displace the oxygen to a level below which an explosion cannot occur.

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Re: Nitrogen Gas for Purging

03/18/2009 12:15 AM

Nitrogen purging is done to create an inert atmosphere as nitrogen is an inert gas.

After hydrotest, nitrogen purging is essential because it helps in removing excess moisture which can be left inside the equipment after drainage.

During transportation of vessels also nitrogen purging is done .

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03/18/2009 12:25 AM

Nitrogen purging is done to create an inert atmosphere as nitrogen is an inert gas.

After hydrotest, nitrogen purging is essential because it helps in removing excess moisture which can be left inside the equipment after drainage.

During transportation of vessels also nitrogen purging is done .

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03/18/2009 1:17 AM

We do not want the steel to rost during the handling, transportation and storage of the vessels.

The rost is the result of a chemical between Fe and O2. By avoiding presence of O2, we avoid rost to occur.

Two possibilities :

1) using corrosion inhibitor. These can be in aerosol, tape, etc...

2) using nitrogen rack and blanking the vessel.

One or the other would depend on the duration of the handling.

But both will work on the same function: neutralizing the rost process by limiting/reducing/suppressing the oxygen contained in the vessel.

Please note that when using nitrogen purge, you will need to fill in from one side and allow vent from the top and allow sufficent flow time to ensure good purge of air. Best thing would probably to use a nitrogen detector or find out from other who have experience on this.

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03/18/2009 3:34 AM

Dear All

Thank you for your comment. My need is to calculate the flow of nitrogen to feed for purging and the time necessary to purge.

Do you have some guidelines to do this calculation?

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03/18/2009 3:57 AM

Why calculate when one may measure?

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03/18/2009 3:59 AM

Take the capacity of the vessel and divide the flow to get the duration of the fill.

You need to know what is your flow value.

I don't think it is necessary to put a lot of pressure, a couple of 10mbars should be enough.

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03/20/2009 9:18 AM

How abt pnumatic test? ur statement is valid only for hayro test ? or for both test. In my project LNG we use pnumatic test with N2 purging..

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03/18/2009 8:42 AM

Depending on the level of purging you want to achieve, applöication of a continuous flow of purging gas may not be the optimum solution. In high purity applications we generally used a pressure swing process. all openigs int eh vessel and the pipework are plugged, except for one, which is connected to the purge gas supply an another one which is connected to a vaccum pump.

Step one: Fill vessel and pipes with the purge gas and allow pressure to increase to the maximum design pressure (connection to vacuum pump is closed, of course).

Step two: Shut off purge gas when desired pressure is reached and wait some time for impurities / moisture to mix with the purge gas.

Step three: Use vacuum pump to remove purge gas from vessel and piping and lower pressure in the system as far as possible (observe design limits of the system!).

Step four: Shut off vacuum pump and repeat steps one to four as often as required. Check Cleanness of the vessel-pipe-system by appropriate analyses.

If you cannot use a vaccum pump, you can, of course, vent the purge gas to ambient. Yet, you will have to repeat the pressurising / depressurising steps mor often.

The advantage of this procedure is that you will save on urging gas quatities, which is important if extra gas quaility is needed and that the impurities are removed from your vessel / pipes in a shorter time.

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03/18/2009 9:06 AM

As PW says, why not just measure the content of the chemical you are trying to remove? Pressure purging is the way to go.

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Re: Nitrogen Gas for Purging

03/18/2009 10:42 AM

Make a clamp cap for each pipe size and blow (N2) a fitted foam pellet throught the pipe and cap each end.

For vessels fill them up with a heavier gas like Argon or Co2 then cap them. Any available gas that is inert and heavier than Oxygen.

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03/18/2009 2:29 PM

Why pay for N2 to remove moisture? Run air through a dessicant and evaporate the moisture with the dry air. Then, seal it up.

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03/19/2009 12:35 AM

Rost appears when oxygen and Fe enter in reaction.

Dry air doesn't prevent rost to appear

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03/18/2009 8:02 PM

The amount and rate of nitrogen required to adequately 'purge' a vessel and/or pipelines is a function of size and configuration. If one is trying to clean and dry an ethylene pipeline for instance, it may take weeks (or months) of forcing thousands of abrasive coated flexible 'pigs' through the pipeline to remove all scale and trash The motive fluid must be totally dry, usually desicant dried nitrogen, since the pipeline MUST be dried to below 2 PPM in the nitrogen exiting the far end. If this is a 100 mile long 16" diameter pipeline, it takes a lot of nitrogen!!

Vessels usually require at least 3 volumes of displacement, in from the bottom, out the top, low/moderate rate to avoid jetting and bypassing areas. This will usually displace enough air to lower the oxygen content well below explosive/flammable range. It DOES NOT guarantee any specific residual moisture or oxygen level however.

Piping systems are individually complex. Usually admitting nitrogen at one end, flowing out the other is not adequate unless flow rates are above 7-10 feet per second. All high point vents must be opened to purge 'traps' and any dead ends. Because of the complex geometry and potential for air traps and low flow areas, at least 5 times the internal volume are usually required. Measuring the oxygen content at the farthest purge vent will USUALLY suffice if all the high point vents were properly opened.

If very low oxygen level is the target, sweep with purge, pressurize to MAWP, vent out far end, then pull full vacuum on the system (blind off vessels that cannot withstand full vacuum (0 psia, -30" of mercury), break the vacuum with purge gas, repeat until vacuum pump exhaust is sufficiently oxygen free. 3 such cycles with a vacuum of 28" should reduce the oxygen level to less than " 20% x (1-{28/30}x{28/30}x{28/30}) " or less than 0.02% or 200 PPM. 4 such pressure/vacuum cycles will get below 20 PPM, 5 cycles will reach 2 PPM or lower.

It depends on your needs and the complexity of the system.

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04/01/2009 2:36 AM

Dear Keith

Thank you very much for you precious answer

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Re: Nitrogen Gas for Purging

06/30/2009 2:48 PM

Have an application in which a .25 PSI nitrogen blanket will be applied into the head space of a diesel fuel tank. As a side benefit will the nitrogen blanket reduce the fuels 30 PPM moisture content?

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