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Bricktop Guru Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1946 Good Answers: 73	Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 10:57 AM
	What is this device? __________________ I go into every human encounter expecting to be framed for a crime I didn't commit. Dilbert, 2013
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#17 "Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? " by Anonymous Poster on 04/08/2009 9:13 PM (score 2)
#26 "Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? " by OldTechNewToys on 04/09/2009 12:02 AM (score 2)
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#15 "Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? " by Doorman on 04/08/2009 3:50 PM (score 1)

Quobaldt Power-User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Africa - Centurion. Posts: 280 Good Answers: 3	#1 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:00 AM
	It looks expensive... __________________ Dreams are the blue print for reality.
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Anonymous Poster	#2 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:05 AM
	It looks kind of like an astrolabe. But I'm thinking it's some kind of early theodolite.
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Anonymous Poster	#5 In reply to #2 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:15 AM
	I'm going to revise my guess. And by "revise" I mean "utterly change". It's an equinoctical sundial.
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#3 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:10 AM
	It's for measuring the stretch of chewing gum... __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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Calnet42 Power-User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT USA Posts: 257 Good Answers: 14	#4 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:13 AM
	Is it an Antikytheran Astrolabe?
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Hendrik Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Centurion, South Africa Posts: 3921 Good Answers: 97	#6 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:24 AM
	It is for weighing letters and post pieces to determine the postage. I have seen a less elaborate (broken) one long ago but did not dare to ask for a demonstration. (I was in trouble with the post office for running an illegal transmitter) __________________ Never do today what you can put of until tomorrow - Student motto
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DAG Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Good Answers: 8	#13 In reply to #6 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 2:39 PM
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Bricktop Guru Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1946 Good Answers: 73	#14 In reply to #13 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 2:45 PM
	Me too! __________________ I go into every human encounter expecting to be framed for a crime I didn't commit. Dilbert, 2013
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Hendrik Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Centurion, South Africa Posts: 3921 Good Answers: 97	#32 In reply to #13 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/09/2009 3:17 AM
	Hi DAG and Bricktop Way back in 1959 (still in school) I got hold of a broken Wire Recorder. After some serious opening and closing and knotting (recording wire) it was working again. It was quite a machine and it even had a record player and a broadcasting mode. Because I could I started a radio station. I think a teacher tipped the authorities after I broadcasted a fictitious message to him from a secret admirer. The post office people eventually searched my room and looked at the recorder (and crystal set and single valve radio) but could not find the transmitter. __________________ Never do today what you can put of until tomorrow - Student motto
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RVZ717 Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: City of Roses. Posts: 2056 Good Answers: 101	#7 Re: Mid week Challenge: 4Iz4u2 04/08/2009 11:33 AM
	Relate to astrology and time? its an early form of a solar powered pocketwatch. __________________ Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!
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DVader1000 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Anywhere Emperor Palpatine assigns me Posts: 2774 Good Answers: 101	#8 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 11:57 AM
	Astrolabe. __________________ If only you knew the power of the Dark Side of the Force
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PWSlack Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on. Posts: 32175 Good Answers: 839	#9 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 12:10 PM
	It's a PlbMak annoyer. __________________ "Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#10 In reply to #9 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 12:44 PM
	Ohhh... I must get one then __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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Anonymous Poster	#11 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 1:13 PM
	pocketwatch?
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Mikerho Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moses Lake, WA, USA, Thulcandra - The Silent Planet (C.S. Lewis) Posts: 4216 Good Answers: 194	#12 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 1:44 PM
	OK. It has what looks like a compass, and what looks like a pendulum. I'd say that this is used on a ship to see pitch and roll, thereby being able to determine direction of non-wind induced waves like sea currents or tsunamis. Mike __________________ "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." - Ayn Rand
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Doorman Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Yellowstone Valley, in Big Sky Country Posts: 7425 Good Answers: 295	#15 In reply to #12 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 3:50 PM
	Yes, a pendulum held captive, to assure the leveling screws in the four corners are adjusted correctly. Appears to be a compass, indicating magnetic north. Base size approx 8-1/2" square. The vertical scale allows 180 degree swing, measured 1-6 Up, and 1-6 Down from horizontal. The horizontal scale allows 180 degree swing, measured 1-6 clockwise, and 1-6 counterclockwise from (machine?) center. I've got it... It is a 'Device 44' __________________ Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
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bhankiii Guru Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: El Lago, Texas, USA Posts: 2639 Good Answers: 65	#16 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 4:47 PM
	It an earlier, and girlier, version of Capt'n Jack Sparrow's compass.
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Anonymous Poster	#17 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 9:13 PM
	To calculate true north deviation from magnetic north in different latitudes.
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Tippycanoe Guru Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Halcottsville, NY Posts: 665 Good Answers: 16	#25 In reply to #17 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 11:56 PM
	I'm gonna give you a conditional GA. It just depends on how many other deviants there are here. __________________ De gustibus non est dispudandum.
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Transcendian Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Transcendia Posts: 2963 Good Answers: 93	#18 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 9:18 PM
	If some of the mechanism is hidden in the base, it may be a weight driven seasonably adjustable, clock. More pictures please? Can we see it move? Does it? Is there a spring involved? Since even if it was a Lat and Long compass determined thing to look at, it does not seem to have stood the test of time as far as any utility. __________________ You don't get wise because you got old, you get old because you were wise.
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Mikerho Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moses Lake, WA, USA, Thulcandra - The Silent Planet (C.S. Lewis) Posts: 4216 Good Answers: 194	#19 In reply to #18 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 9:30 PM
	Hi TS, You said: "it may be a *weight driven seasonably adjustable, clock." OK - I have to ask the question: how would a weight driven seasonably adjustable, clock* work? Mike __________________ "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." - Ayn Rand
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Transcendian Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Transcendia Posts: 2963 Good Answers: 93	#20 In reply to #19 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 9:59 PM
	Well, like an hourglass sundial combo? WAG method employed= Wild Ass Guess. There are vertical and horizontal planes, both with line slide arms to be set. No detail to the photo, and no gears seen. __________________ You don't get wise because you got old, you get old because you were wise.
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hairlesssimian Guru Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the dark, somewhere in Arizona Posts: 632 Good Answers: 15	#23 In reply to #20 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 11:11 PM
	Wow, I'm a huge fan of the WAG method, I just never realized there was a name for it... __________________ Education is not preparation for life; life itself is education.
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Anonymous Poster	#45 In reply to #23 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 4:07 PM
	Add scientific at the start and it becomes SWAG.
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cwarner7_11 Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Panama Posts: 4273 Good Answers: 213	#21 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 10:25 PM
	Looks like some form of wind gage, measuring direction and force.
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StandardsGuy Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North America, Earth Posts: 4528 Good Answers: 106	#22 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 10:27 PM
	It looks like a navigational instrument for sailors. There seems to be a compass, a sundial, a device for measuring latitude, etc. I hope you will tell us how it all works together. __________________ “I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” - Richard Feynman
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#33 In reply to #22 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 3:27 AM
	It looks like a navigational instrument for sailors. Nah... it's a navigational device for people who sit at their desk all day long __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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Andy Germany Guru Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Near Frankfurt am Main, Germany. 50.390866N, 8.884827E Posts: 17996 Good Answers: 200	#35 In reply to #22 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 6:25 AM
	I'm with you..... __________________ "What others say about you reveals more about them, than it does you." Anon.
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WOODROOSTER Commentator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the Sunshine! Posts: 71 Good Answers: 2	#24 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/08/2009 11:46 PM
	Its original name is unknown, but it was discovered in the Canary Islands and is believed to have been used by the people from Atlantis to discover that the world is round about 5000B.C. __________________ Son, do you see the bird? The archer: No father. Son, what do you see? The archer: His eye, father!
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OldTechNewToys Power-User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Newcastle NSW Australia Posts: 236 Good Answers: 22	#26 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 12:02 AM
	I reckon you're all wrong. It's a Sibling Pizza Divider. You rest it on the table on one egde of the base, & lay it down over the pizza so that the vertical disk now lays horizontal & is centered exactly in the middle of the pizza (& yes, i know "centered exactly in the middle " is a redundant statement), you then place the knife against the centre straight edge to form the start of the cut to exactly divide the pizza in half. This way the kids cannot fight over who got the biggest piece! Hence the sibling bit. Simple! Tony
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Epke Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japan Posts: 2703 Good Answers: 38	#27 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 12:06 AM
	it is an ancient GPS system to check your longitude and latitude or just a (swiss)sextant with too many functions? __________________ From the Movie "The Big Lebowski" Don't pee on the carpet man!
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vermin Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 5356 Good Answers: 50	#28 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 12:07 AM
	It's a device for surveying. Something like an ancient surveyor's transit? __________________ "Perplexity is the beginning of dementia" - Professor Coriolus
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3Doug Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kiefer OK Posts: 1325 Good Answers: 22	#29 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 1:22 AM
	Some observations after transferring the picture in photo editing software and enlarging: Obviously, the vertical disk and the counterweight rotate around the spindle. But it appears the dark spot in the base is an indentation that matches the counterweight because its diameter appears to be just a bit larger than the diameter of the counterweight. The counterweight slides up and down the spindle, and can be placed in the indentation to "zero" the instrument. A number circle is evident, with 0 placed on a line from the spindle to the centerpoint of the side closest to the indentation. An arc of numbers from 1 to 6 is in the upper right quadrant, 0 is not marked, so probably assumed to be in the usual position. A screw appears to be missing from the hook assembly, thus reducing the value of the piece at auction. The item probably dates after 1200. The numbers are Arabic numerals, and Fibonacci popularized their use with a book published in 1202. I hope this information helps someone figure out what this is. I know it's not a thistlewick... __________________ I wonder..... Would Schrödinger's cat play with a ball of string theory?
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AussieBob Power-User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 463 Good Answers: 43	#30 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 1:26 AM
	Astrolabe with sundial - pre-metric of course!
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chrisg288 Guru Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Clive, Alberta, Canada Posts: 5916 Good Answers: 204	#31 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 2:27 AM
	an early ship's clock, that is adjusted based on solar or lunar risings and settings. I believe there was a competetion for the design, to see who could design and manufacture the most accurate clock, as compared to a base clock left at home. Chris
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scotchdrnkr Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Latitude 38.701979 Longitude -90.439540 Coordinates 38.701979, -90.439540 N38°42.11874, W090°26.3724 Posts: 668 Good Answers: 15	#34 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 6:01 AM
	Its something you bought from this store. And where did you get all those cool toys from? And why are there no over-unity devices or HHO generators sold there, since the store claims to sell suppressed technology? http://www.espionage-store.com/secret/index.html But since it Actually does do something useful they no longer sell it. __________________ scotchdrnkr
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fernandotasso Commentator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 71 Good Answers: 6	#36 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 10:48 AM
	It is clearly a thingamajig. Jokes apart, I can't figure exactly what it is, but I have some ideas to share. First, I don't believe that thing was intended for nautical use, because it has clearly a leveling device (Did you ever try to level something aboard a ship?). The apparatus was made to stand on a steady surface, or to be bolted to it. Astronomical devices for nautical use were handheld, like a sextant. What really puzzles me is the hand on the vertical disk. It is definitely not an alidade (thru which you could aim to a point, such as a star): There is no pointer to help set a sight line. Moreover, the center column would block that sight line. This rules out the possibility of being an astrolabe, a cosmolab or any other astronomical device. The hand ends in a hook. I think the couple of screws on the hand (one of them is missing) serves to the purpose of fastening it at a desired position. This would make sense if a cord were to be tied to the hook. In this case, one can expect that this device worked as a theodolite, but measuring angles between two positions of a cord instead of sight lines. Following those ideas, I finally found what it is!!!!! (anyhow, I decided to keep my previous comments). This device is a surveying instrument dated 1583. You can find it at: http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/EPACT/catalogue.php?ENumber=41531&Sort=MedianDate
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Bricktop Guru Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1946 Good Answers: 73	#37 In reply to #36 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 10:52 AM
	Nice going Fernando! However, it's really a: nulgravium __________________ I go into every human encounter expecting to be framed for a crime I didn't commit. Dilbert, 2013
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fernandotasso Commentator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 71 Good Answers: 6	#38 In reply to #37 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 11:09 AM
	Hi, Bricktop, The only nulgravium I know (and that's founded on a scientific basis) is made by sticking a toast on a cat's back. Some marmalade is spread over the toast, and then the cat is dropped from a certain height. Now, two Fundamental Laws of Nature come into collision. On one hand, Felines Freefall Law states that a cat always will reach the ground on her four feet, no matter what. On the other side, Murphy's Law prevents this, because the toast has to touch down on the marmalade side. So, Nature gets absolutely confused, and the cat+toast assembly will never fall at all! Most state-of-the art anti-gravitational devices rely on this principle.
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Bricktop Guru Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1946 Good Answers: 73	#39 In reply to #38 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 11:15 AM
	fernando, welcome to CR4. Your going to fit in real well around here! __________________ I go into every human encounter expecting to be framed for a crime I didn't commit. Dilbert, 2013
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#40 In reply to #38 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 11:27 AM
	Like it __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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Anonymous Poster	#41 In reply to #36 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 12:14 PM
	Crud! I was so very close with theodolite back up at response #2. But then I went and changed it.
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#42 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 12:48 PM
	Are we sure that web site is correct? One of the other descripions of an item looks like a pisstake, it's not a joke site is it? Del __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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Bricktop Guru Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1946 Good Answers: 73	#43 In reply to #42 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 1:00 PM
	Does this photo from the site answer you question? http://www.dearauntnettie.com/gallery/index.htm __________________ I go into every human encounter expecting to be framed for a crime I didn't commit. Dilbert, 2013
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user-deleted-1105 Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlow England Posts: 16512 Good Answers: 670	#44 In reply to #43 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/09/2009 1:40 PM
	I used to be gullible...but now I believe anything you tell me __________________ health warning: These posts may contain traces of nut.
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JohnDG Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Going under cover. Posts: 9684 Good Answers: 468	#46 In reply to #43 Re: Mid-Week Challenge: What Is This Device? 04/12/2009 4:34 PM
	Takes about 3 to 4 seconds of checking out the link to realize it's sloolkcb. But it's loverly (the nullgravium force enhancer - not the 'thing' in your photo) - I want one! (Cool site!) __________________ "Love justice, you who rule the world" - Dante Alighieri
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