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How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/10/2009 8:57 AM

I would like to know the easiest way to clean a Propane Hotwater Heater? There is a lot of Lime build up in the tank and the tank don't have a clean out. Three years ago I bought a new tank and it is full of Lime already. Can any one please help?

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/10/2009 3:22 PM

Should be a tap near the bottom looks like a garden hose connection. Annually attach a hose and drain fully.

Once it has started building, very hard to get rid of.

Water softening technology can help, salt bath prior to entering house "fills" excess holes in molocules to prevent ion action as well as preventing precipitation.

So water heater doesn't fill with crap, and pipes and fittings are not attacked by water.

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/11/2009 12:26 AM

Muriatic acid is commonly used to clean lime deposits away. May you could disconnect from propane and water supply and try to flush with a mild solution. Mix and then add carefully wearing protective eye-wear and gloves etc. let stand for half hour then flush, steady as it goes. What are your options? Buy another tank?

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04/11/2009 1:32 PM

I have a tankless water heater and had some lime build-up problems so I installed boiler drains on the inlet and outlet lines, as well as isolation valves on each line so that they could be shut off and permit the boiler drains to be opened without the system being affected. Once a year I take a small electric transfer pump, get a 5-gallon bucket, pour in a gallon of white vinegar, put the pump in the bucket, connect the pump output to one of the boiler drains, run a drain hose from the other boiler drain to the bucket, then turn the pump on and let it run for an hour or so. Usually, the vinegar winds up being blue-green in color, which tells me that some good was done.

You could use a diluted Muriatic acid as well - it is much stronger than vinegar. Be careful not to get it on your concrete floor or any other calcium-based material. It will also effectively remove iron deposits from your system if you have any.

Performing this operation on a tank-type heater is a little more involved due to the typical piping configuration and the greater volume contained in the internal core, but it should work just as well. You could avoid one of the boiler drains if you utilize the one already on the tank, you will still have to be able to isolate the in and out lines to the tank to avoid running the acid through your entire system.

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04/11/2009 7:09 PM

Be careful flushing out a storage hot water heater. Depending on what chemical you use you could compromise the sacrificial anode system. I cannot tell you what chemicals will do what to the anode, there are several different anode types in common use. Check with your water heater manufacturer for more details and possible help.

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04/11/2009 8:06 PM

Be a swell time to replace the anode too.

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04/11/2009 8:27 PM
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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/13/2009 10:26 AM

Sometimes a truly trite answer is just the best answer.

The easiest way to clean anything is to pay somebody else to do it.

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/13/2009 3:01 PM

I have never tried this and have heard of a few people doing it, so I can't verify the effectiveness of it. I also don't know if there would be any ramifications from doing this. The few people told me to drain the water with the cold and hot line valves closed. Once empty, take a metal coat hanger and shove it in through the drain valve. Knock as much loose as possible and then, reattach hose and turn cold line on to flush out what you knocked loose with the metal coat hanger.

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/14/2009 3:03 AM

If you have a stainless tank, use vinegar or citric acid rather than muriatic as chlorides tend to attack lines of residual stress between grains in SS.

If you have a steel tank with an anode, remove anode and flush with hydrochloric, acetic (vinegar) or citric acids. Citric works well to remove rust also. Depending on the condition of the anode it may be worth replacing it at this time.

If a copper tank any of the acids, but never anything which contains ammonia.

One trouble in hard water areas is that calcium carbonate (and hydroxide I believe) is one of the few materials which is more soluble in cold water than hot, so it deposits preferentially on hot surfaces, usually where they are least accessible.

It may be worth looking at softening your water before it goes to the water heater to minimize future problems.

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/14/2009 3:19 AM

How about domestic kettle descalant?

Afterwards, if the water is not intended for drinking, then ion-exchange softening upstream might prove economic, as others above have suggested.

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Re: How to Clean a Propane Hot Water Heater

04/15/2009 2:27 PM

I live in an area with very hard water. Calcium predominately plugs up our water heater due to its' inverse solubility in water with temperature.

The previous owner of my house had installed a water softener. I discontinued using it because of the very negative effects on the environment caused by so much chloride ions from salt being introduced into the water.

The simplest way to extend the life of the water heater without using a softener system is to install a blow-down valve with timer onto the drain spigot of the heater. These are already threaded for a 3/4 inch garden hose connector, so an off the shelf lawn sprinkler solenoid valve and timer can be used. The only precaution is to be sure the plastic components and hose are rated for the temperature of your hot water or a burst line will result.

I immediately saw that calcium crystals were being discharged in the blow-down and my gas bill in the summertime was reduced by about $5 - 10 per month (when no space heating load was on) indicating less scaling on the exchanger surfaces. The system is cheap and pays for itself very quickly in energy efficiency. I also expect further savings by extending the life of the water heater.

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