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Plastic Injection Molding - Measuring Mold Filling

04/14/2009 1:01 AM

How it is ensured that mold is completely filled in case of injection molding for plastics? Do we have concept of risers in injection molding as we have in metal casting. Plz provide some material regarding this ( any html link,pdf,doc etc.... ).

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Re: Complete injection mold filling ( plastics )

04/14/2009 2:49 AM

Hello Heman2727,

You have asked a few question here. The first is fairly straight forward. To ensure that the mold is completely filled the molder will mold a shot which will firstly under fill the part. He will inch up on filling the part and packing it out. This is a visual perception of what is cosmetically acceptable to the customer using the following judgements in 1-3 below. Read the bottom for resources.

1.Is the part full with no short shots and no sink marks?

2. If no is the answer to # 1. then, is there flash evident at the vents or around the parting line?

3. There are variants to the above but it is common practice to have a visual inspection and a physical gage to determine dimensional acceptability.

4. Once there is a signed of part, i.e. First Article accepted. You can use weight as a guide line to find filled and overfilled parts.

5. As many as 90% of Automotive molders use a "Gage" system as well as the visual cosmetic Quality Control of parts. This is where the finish molded part is assembled onto a 'Gage' fixture and the tolerance of the part is measured. Typically done with tapered feeler gages. This assures that the molded part will fit on the 'vehicle' within the acceptable tolerances supplied by the customer.

6. An extremely accurate "Monster Gage" is made to measure all the assembled parts at once for each model car. It is machined within thousandths of the theoretically correct CAD model. The molding suppliers bring their parts to test fit them on the gage. They have their own separate gages for each part for use during normal production.

Concept of Risers:

There is no concept of risers used in general in injection mold production parts. However some critical molds may have a controlled overflow to allow for control of physical or cosmetic knit lines.

Think of injection molding being most economical when you have molded the closest possible product to a finished part when you eject it from the Molding Press. All secondary operations add to the cost. So de-gating and removing risers is not economical and therefore avoided where possible.

If you need more follow-up, check out the SPI/SPE website, +Google etc, as there are endless resources to answer your question, or be more specific here on CR4.

Mold Base Manufacturers have lots of pictures of Valve gating etc. Here are a few.

Hasco, DME Company, PCS, National Tool and Mold. All good resources, some with video of molds being filled.

Solidworks / Cosmos works have excellent Mold filling videos on their sites. Search under mold filling software, it will show you whats available. (try here first and work back)

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Re: Complete injection mold filling ( plastics )

04/14/2009 4:15 AM

Thanks a lot for the valuable information.

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05/18/2010 10:47 AM

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Re: Plastic Injection Molding - Measuring Mold Filling

04/15/2009 4:22 AM

My father was making molds for plastic from steel. First rule was that mold has to be as symmetrical as possible, with feed going to center of plate and then branching out to fill molds, and each mold had outlet for air in form of 1mm long 1/2mm diameter pipe that become conical and 1/2cm in diameter. It was made between plates so half was on one plate and half on other. He did it all mostly by hand because tools were scarce and there were no computers nor CNC machines. Based on experience, he later made round holes where product engraving should be and inset round brass pieces with engravings, or fixed brass backside form at least, because it did not corrode, acted >>greasy<< with plastic so it was easy to open mold and get part out, and it was softer to engrave than steel. Also, seriall engraving by pantograph from one bigger model was possible and in case something went wrong in process of engraving (like broken bit for engraving making damage), only one inset was lost, not whole mold. Brass also conduct temperature better so there were less problems with cooling of plastic too fast, and faster cooling when cooling was required.....

Since air outlets were so miniature and formed balls or short sticks on the other side, it was simple to break them away by hand leaving allmost no trace, and they could have been made so that they were engraved on mechanism that push product out of mold, cutting those tiny strands of plastic away in process. There were variants where act of pushing product out was tearing this tiny sticks off product and they remained in mold, to be expelled by force of air comming out of mold cavities when new dose of plastic was injected. Since this pieces were even smaller than originall grains of plastic, they were fed back into heating chamber without problem. Same technique was used to remove plastic from inlet channels........

I hope this would help, even if today there is whole science formed about molding and there are programs to simulate this to find optimal solutions in each case.....

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04/15/2009 7:14 AM

THANKS!!Henrik14..

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04/16/2009 8:52 AM

Pressure sensors in the cavity can be enormously useful in monitoring the process.

Check out http://www.rjginc.com/

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04/16/2009 9:32 AM

I am a new comer to plastic injection so please be patient! Do the steel molds show wear in certain areas and not in the other? If so what is done to "balance" the wear. Besides nitriding are there other surface treatments of the molds to reduce wear in critical areas? www. technovations.ws technovationsintl@gmail.com

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04/16/2009 11:34 AM

Injection of plastic do not wear steel. But, if mold get damaged by accident, it usually has to be replaced as whole. Plastic would more likely glue itself to steel mold then to Brass insets, and those are not so prone to micro crumbling because of rapid and frequent changes in temperature of mold. Steel is also more prone to material fatigue so cracks can develop due to normal usage. I have seen molds cracked in half because of this.......

Sorry that it is just >>second hand<< expertise that is also 20+ years old........

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