Does some Idots hide behind "GUEST"?

My Father was a "Watchmaker"; I saw that any expensive watch of the mechanical kind, stopped in minnets after is was put on some peoples arms. Sometimes, if it was worn on the persons other arm it would work normally!

On my mother in law's left arm only a man's watch did work, not on the right and she could not wear a lady's watch.

I would very much like to hear a truthfully explanation for this as it still bugs me!

Jurie

Well there ya go again Jack. If you argue your limitations, they are yours.

^{_{Buck Rodgers points his laser at the bad guy's.}} Tzzarrp, ptooff. 'No Problem"

I can't really give you a GA for that, even though daily exposure to high voltage DC would stop or screw up electronic watches. But as previous posters have agreed, that a self-wind watch seems to eliminate the problem. Most of us in the shop wore that type of watch. Mine was a Zodiac 'Sea Wolf'. Very accurate to 350M, by which depth, time would not matter. BT,DT.

The falsity of these issues is demonstrated by the fact that in my seventy five years long before the advent of electric watch movements, we used to hear the same garbage about mechanical movements, self wind or not.

One of the quickest ways to check and get a handle on an argument or opinion is to look at the history of the issue.

j.

I kinda liked the idea about simple stomach acids and the copper/zinc and even shampoo and soap related alkalines we use on our bodies would cause some people with over-active stomachs to be walking mini-charged batteries.

As long as we don't let Al Gore know who we are... we can avoid being carbon taxed by Obama's green-gestapo.

JL Mealer
Mealer Companies LLC
America's Next Major Automaker
http://mealercompanies.com

Mr. Mealer,

I for one am getting very tired of your persistent political spinning. Please stop. If you wish to talk politics go to a political forum.

It's called humor and we could all use some nowadays...

If you're tired, go to sleep and I will cut back on typos and will no longer use humor to attack the goodguys... Only the badguys.

Humor sure beats a hot sharp poker to the eye!

JL Mealer
Mealer Companies LLC
America's Next Major Automaker & Energy Source Supplier.
http://mealercompanies.com

I didn't realize you were from Long Island, NY.... I understand now.

JL Mealer
Mealer Companies LLC
America's Next Major Automaker & Energy Source Supplier.
http://mealercompanies.com

Yep, living in the town long known as Crookhaven for the large number of Republican politicians convicted while in office. Where the county police have the highest pay in the country (even higher than Honolulu). Now the state senators in Albany are acting like children holding their breath, possibly making my excessive property taxes double. Where 85% of my federal taxes go to support some other part of the country.

I do recognize that your political comments were meant to be humorous. This is exactly why I made my earlier comment as polite as I could. I do not want to stifle the humor of our discussions. I think it was either Lenny Bruce or Henny Youngman who said, "All jokes put somebody in a bad light. Move the light around, so everyone can laugh." So again, please a little less politics.

Agreed.

With Arizona being left in shambles by Dem Gov. Janet Naplitano who uprooted with a host of costly bills en route as Obama's Dept Home Land Security leadership status... (only because she supported him over H Clinton in the primaries), I simply have no use for the liberal agenda.

Eastern State Republicans tend to be a bit unsteady if not outright crooks and the reverse if true for Western States... Dems work the same way vice versa.

Lucky for Arizona, her replacement (Jan Brewer) is a good financial type of leader and can solve the budget issues by cutting the garbage and raising sales tax by only 1 cent. Much better than going bankrupt or cutting needed services.

Lenny is about the only liberal on Hannity that I don't want to just punch in the face.

(especially after I saw how excited he became when a female guest talked nicely to him.. It was comical).

Hello JLMEALER,

I do not mean to insult in any way.

I think this Political talk should be on a Blog, rather than on part of a thread on

"Does the Human Body Store Electrical Charges"?

I do not think it fair to kidnap a thread like this. Even if you mark your posts as off topic.

Babybear... politics are a part of life, and inasmuch as this discussion is about a human body's electrical charge, we are also reading about metaphysical psychobabble that has about as much content as Barney Frank's mind.

I could have said Barney Rubble's mind just to appease your concerns, but it may be a metaphysical thing that would create some sort of transcendental realtionship from within the realms of my mind to the outermost portions of the galaxy.

One must never insult a cartoon figure, when it is so easy to point out the truth of a political figure that will leave us all wishing our bodies could produce their own electricity rather than pay for Carbon Taxes.

I'm lucky I can type this without typos as it is... So you might be better off joking about that fact vs my speaking an occassional and obvious fact(s) of modern day politics.

((Bet you'd have had no issue had I been a liberal droning rederick!))

Smile, and back away from the dark side.

JL Mealer

Hello JLMEALER,

I was not meaning to insult you that is the first thing.

And I do realize you are using Politicians as an ironic comic level. That is fine by me on a thread which asks a specific political question. I do know that "politics" is all about and to do with people, and the nearest we get on this thread to a person is mention of one to start with, now several 'persons' whom have an unusual reaction to electrics and electronic.

I think it is a really interesting subject which could lead anywhere, but think from my point of view that I think any mention of this being connected to Transcendental relationships to outer space is kinda losing it a little. I do not know if you are serious or not, but to mention it does seem a bit far out, at least from my view of things.

As for the US Politics, I just do not understand enough about it to comment.

My first thought on my first post was to say it was a nonsense, but I am prepared to change my mind as there is more and more people saying such similar things, that they too have been trouble by this phenomena. That cannot be ignored. And though I have found some rudimentary evidence for how much electricity the human body can hold, there has been nothing sent in about any person with these phenomena who has been tested and can give any kind of reasonable explanation of what happens.

I will wait and see if there is such evidence over the next few days.

No insult intended my friend.

JL Mealer

It took me a couple of days to get over what you said about politics and it being a part of every thing, Really.

What you forget are the implications of political statements in a forum such as this. I have been subjected to the Report button once and since have refrained from making political statements or throwing around with political views. Mine are just not palatable and yours make me want to say something I would not want to say in public. Now what?

What I mean is, if you make remarks and you find an opponent the slinging begins and when it comes to me it could get dirty and transparent, all at the same time. Others might be very insulted and that should not be part of any formula. I refrain willingly and even if I throw in some remarks about sports once in a while, I wonder if any one would even listen and 'should I have remarked?'.

Smile, and back away from the dark side.

I can still read a lot of bitterness between your lines. I think I have mentioned this before. Cry and move to the light side, know what I mean? One starts the next and soon we'll be voting for each other. Not here JL Mealer, maybe some where else.

I like CR4 just for this reason. I can have the foot in mouth disease, and others, with out the provocation bit. And if, sometimes, very gently. I hope this was gentle enough and send me a PM if you wish. Thanks for clearing this up Ky, talk to you soon.

Hey ky,

All someone had to say is 'HEY DUDE.. THAT OFFENDS ME'. And if in fact, whatever I typed was actually offensive, I would immediately apologize and no longer approach the subject.

When it comes to the current political issues that are tied into everything due to massive governmental interference, all comments about THEM are on the table and available for use as regular shop talk. Since I NEVER say anything direct and instead throw out a pithy comment here and there, men will not be offended and my comments are fair and just.

If I offend a woman with my truthful and obscure politcal coments, I do apologize as I never want to offend a woman.

JLMEALER,

You have just offended me with your remark "men will not be offended and my comments are fair and just."

I don't see why you separate men from women on these issues. The implication is men are political and women are not and as well not being political women not likely to understand and hence won't be offended.

But you offend me with your ignorant political comments which I could subject to the same sort of questioning I did above to some of the metaphysical nonsense. Believe me you would not be able to demonstrate what you keep injecting here has any reality and you better belief I am far to the left of the liberals you disparage and to which you bring the greatest obvious ignorance.

In my view you and the "liberals" are all in the same basket, the same camp.

Your political ignorance is offensive.

I think you ought to do as suggested and stop defending your continued injection of what I consider just plain ignorant political garbage.

I have probably myself already crossed the line but it was needful insofar as it was clear you don't intend to listen to what the others here are telling you.

j.

Jack, my friend,

Unlike may people you know, I am not offended by honest dialogue. My comments regarding "real men would not be offended and my comments are fair and just" stands. I said nothing that was not true, albiet a bit of dry humour with a hint of ill-will, nothing I have said or inflicted here was directed at you. The fact that men should not be offended has to do with testosterone and what I would hope is common sense. Women do not operate on their testosterone levels, but more along the lines of pure emotion as directed through their body's production of estrogen AND subsequently are offended to a lot of things they may or may not misinterpret.

Most heterosexual married people know that. I apologize for assuming you were either and in your case, I retract my comment. The metaphysical comments were a bit of that dry humor, and as I tend to keep my own life's metaphysical aspects to myself,
I can only joke about it.

You should keep in mind that people like me who are conservative are willing to die so you may have your ultra liberal rights. We like ours as well... So you need to realize how much of the political full circle we really need to travel to meet each other's beliefs. Such as turning around and realizing that they are the same, but I wish to earn and fight for my rights while you and other's like you want others to fight for their rights... In essence and without an estrogen lean... Conservatives are really exactly what liberals need to keep them free and fed... But not vice-versa.

Their is no political ignorance from my side as I am grounded in reality. My comments were brief and in good taste and very much unlike what the leftleaning groups say about murdering and maiming those who defend their rights to be who they are.

You have crossed no line and I appreciate your opinions and I will die defending your right to have and to express those opions because I am conservative of those rights.

I am not, however, one of those right wing pacifist pseudo-Christians that you may be afraid of... And you need not fear me or my humour. Let's just keep it above board, okay? And who knows? You might learn to chuckle a bit at my ribbing of an administration gone wacky.

JL Mealer
Mealer Companies
http://mealercompanies.com

When I read your reply I realize you are just as wacko as the previous "conservative" administration or the present one of Obama and the "liberal" Democrats, who are just as nasty and vicious as the last although given to a form of dissembling that fools more people than the last by pretending to be "liberal.".

And you are obviously not too bright because you go right on denigrating women as something inferior who cannot think as well as men being driven by chemistry instead of reason although I don't discern an iota of reason in anything you have said, just a lot of garbage pumped into a limited mind by others.

You really are over the line, way over, and although tempted to see you shut down it is much better for all to see what folks like you are made of.

As far as fighting? You are right there is a fight coming and you will be on the losing side and all that will mean.

You really are predictable and therefore boring.

j.

Obviously Jack, you have some deep rooted anger towards someone in your life and it is obvious that your kind are angry at women for one reason or another whereas I prefer to keep your types away from them whenever possible. Are you Islamic? That would explain a lot right there. Most people int he world do not hate women as you do.

It is obvious that any comments I have made are humor related or absolutely true, so I am not concerned if our conversation is taken before those who may control this site (unless they belong to the good old boy club as you seem to be part of).

As I said, I will defend your right to be as liberal as you want to be.

You see...

Just what I was talking about. Now you have Jack on your tail (post 62). He will fire away, don't you worry about that. I was not offended at all. I was restricted and still am by your suggestion to have reacted in some way convenient to you.

'HEY DUDE.. THAT OFFENDS ME' would not have been enough to counter your jabs. I hope you still evaluate this as friendly communication, because it really is. Just not the right place.

Although there is such a thing as political science, I think they ( the scholars), are all illusionist. Any party, any philosophy or ideology or religion for that matter and while we're at it, is/are ruled by unscientific laws or rules, created to assist the power of the rulers, like HHO fanatics who will not give in even though they are ruled by real laws, just worse and more destructive these so called leaders of grouped people.

How can it be a science when most of the actions are created with and by state secrets which we will never have access to. Imagine the laws of physics with some secrets that can't be told because it would be to shameful to mention. Or Nations could not sell weapons to each other and make their soldiers fight it out, over oil and drugs. See what I mean! I'm at it again. I'm out of here and will see how Jack handles this past this point.

Sparkstation is a CR4er who used to hit fair and square in any department. Very well respected by all, I think.

'Does the Human Body Store Electrical Charges?'

He would have come up with a long list of explanations, that's all. Not a new super hero just a very knowledgeable person. He has not posted for a while and is just missed by some. Look him up and you will see what I mean.

Humor and politics only mix in late night talk shows were cynicism is taught. Getting a laugh out of it is becoming harder by the day. Bitterness?

Have a great day, Ky.

Hey ky...

I hate politics. I have no love for any political group. But even less for the liberal democrats. No real man can resist taking jabs at the bufoons put into power by ACORN and many confused voters (amongst the dead and voting)...

I will take your advice, however, and lay off the liberal jabs here. I just naturally assumed that the thinking crowd were more along the lines of conservative and the bongs and crack pipes were left in the dorm rooms with their liberal collegiate counterparts and beer bash buddies.

All is well, my friend. Thanks for the heads up.

JL Mealer

Just a quick question ky...

have you noticed any space aliens upset, bend out of shape or complaining about "mussed up hair and broken nails" from my comments at #12?

I didn't realize "Self Proclaimed Far-Left Leaning Jack" would get so worked up over any of my comments.

JL Mealer

No.

Ky,

"Although there is such a thing as political science, I think they ( the scholars), are all illusionist. Any party, any philosophy or ideology or religion for that matter and while we're at it, is/are ruled by unscientific laws or rules, created to assist the power of the rulers, like HHO fanatics who will not give in even though they are ruled by real laws, just worse and more destructive these so called leaders of grouped people."

I would agree with you that the "scholars" of political science are in the main full of it. Not long ago one of those "scholars" the professor teaching a political science course I was taking for amusement at GSU asserted that it really was not possible to have a hard science of social existence.

This in spite of his agreement that the world was knowable, concrete, and material and subject to being discovered and understood through scientific method.

You seem to have a similar point of view.

Nonetheless, if you agree that the world is knowable, concrete, and material, why not.

Science after all is a method, the best method we have thus far worked out to discern what is true and material about the world we live in.

Social existence is in fact an existence wherein real, concrete, material beings live in a real, concrete, material universe. What is there about that existence and those beings that cannot be examined and discerned by the scientific method?

j.

Hi Jack

What is there about that existence and those beings that cannot be examined and discerned by the scientific method?

I am sure it would fit into the holy grail of nothingness once that is found out. It could be the time that is used up to create a benchmark that stands for the lot of us and has the same relevance to all. That is what I am trying to say, that history, intellect, knowledge, race or gender could be worth while organizing if there was this one bench mark (and in any, every domain). All could be guided by tolerance and to live a life free from unnecessary friction. This can only be found in a single person and is not transplantable or become an object of trade, although some people make a good living out of it.

Human race looks like it could be ruled as one but I have doubts and some reservations about wanting to execute this strategy. Only very rarely do highly trained people achieve unity in small groups. Be it in politics, engineering, sport or any other discipline. Clear laws in all pursuits create great things, that can actually work and bring joy and content to the observers or consumers. It starts with the family unit. The less moving parts the better. If you can buy sliced bread, why not do it.

One man can move more than a million if he moves for the million and is guided by laws that are not really written down anywhere. In the past nobody has seen the future of things to come, so why should we be in a position to do so now?. By using political science? By voting for this or that party? What a farce and what a boring hobby, were the outcome is always win or lose and brings not much to the community but discourse, speculation rivalry and some times even utmost misery and dis-pear.

Any one will tell you about affiliations with this or that and convinced of him or her or them or ways of doing things. Now where does science fit into this? Even if you had the perfect formula it would still be changed by the factor of time and the times they are changing. Fast.

Telling the future by the past and teaching that could be called 'evolution observing', at best. I am not sure what makes this process a true science. If the goal of these studies is to change to a more humane planet then political science has failed and is dead. As is God. Use by date has come. A bench mark for all this? A mothers heart is the best I can think of.

Its Sunday morning and I write what ever I want because I am a free man and would love to keep the peace in all of this.

This thread is about 'Does the Human Body Store Electrical Charges?' and not about 'Does the human brain store electrical charges that lay in the future?'

Maybe another day. Greetings, Ky.

You raised the issue of social science and seemed to deny that a true science of social existence was possible.

Now, in reference to a simple query about a basic question as to science your answer suggests you are a stranger to science, rather have all sorts of notions without scientific basis.

You have answered my question.

Nuff said.

j.

Actually, on second thought Ky and a rereading of your diatribe, you approach an answer to my question but you don't know it.

"I am sure it would fit into the holy grail of nothingness once that is found out. It could be the time that is used up to create a benchmark that stands for the lot of us and has the same relevance to all. That is what I am trying to say, that history, intellect, knowledge, race or gender could be worth while organizing if there was this one bench mark (and in any, every domain). All could be guided by tolerance and to live a life free from unnecessary friction. This can only be found in a single person and is not transplantable or become an object of trade, although some people make a good living out of it."

There is such a "benchmark" or in my language a common essential to all humankind, as well as every other beast on the planet. This despite your nay-saying.

That commonality is the fact that we are forced to create the means of our sustenance, and expanding from there over historical time, the diverging and varying ways we have done so.

That process is at the base of our social existence, how we produce it determining what we are, i.e., the nature of our social existence. (I should note that I am paraphrasing, the thought is not originally mine.)

It is, as well, by its nature, common to all not individual as you would have it.

j.

Sounds great Jack. We should get together one day and discuss this over a few drinks and watch the grand children try their luck at being dominant. Not sure if you have any but it does not matter, they are all the same, like mother's hearts. (sorry dad's)

The next time I'm in your beautiful country I shall make the time and look you up. I'll have the film crew with me, so no inconvenience to you. We will be making a documentary about dinosaur's and I don't turn red when I lie, anymore.

Your constant display of well placed humor could make interesting viewing. No script at all and you can paraphrase as much as you like. No originality required, I'll deal with that while editing in the cutting room or whats left of it.

Maybe we should start a thread on Friedrich Nietzsche in a post of your choice. Mr. Mealer would have a go, for sure. Could be interesting for the un-initiated and has happened before in off topic marathons.

Have you noticed that I have not mentioned State Secrets yet ?

Wod'ya reckon? Ky.

Ky,

Nietzsche is turning in his grave. That paraphrase is definitely not Nietzsche.

Try again.

Or better not.

From my point of view nothing to be gained in this discussion with you.

j.

You seem un-fazed by criticism of your comments, that's healthy. After all how would life be without a little salt

I didn't notice I was being criticized!

JL Mealer
Mealer Companies LLC
America's Next Major Automaker & Energy Source Supplier.
http://mealercompanies.com

"Salt is good, where it not for salt, wherewith would we season it?" JC

"Sugar is good, where it not for sugar, wherewith we would reason it?" Ky.

"Multiple observations among many people means that something is happening."

I can't think of a more general statement of reality, so general to in fact be meaningless.

I am beginning to wonder if perhaps you have a physical problem in re some of the circuits in your brain; those having to do with reflection, the dialectic.

You have said that anything electronic that you touch, as well as mechanical watches, either dies immediately or in a few days.

Surely, when you say such stuff, like your building and using a battery charger for over five years, or your repeated use of a computer to send these posts (Unless two or three computers you used sending these posts have failed and yet another one about to go), you are aware of the spoken, inherent contradiction; are you not.

I am beginning to think perhaps not because at least to Baby Bear and I, your statements and their contradictions, are so obvious and blatant.

Most of us have brain circuits that constantly observe and consider what we have said and done in, at least, the recent past and how those things correlate with what we are saying or doing at this moment.

I hesitate to here apply the terminology one usually applies to folks with intentional failures in those sorts of observations and/or correlations.

But, if you have not in fact been checked out by a neurologist for your apparent and obvious failures I would suggest it might be advisable to do so because in the long term failures of reflection circuits in our brains can lead to very dangerous circumstances.

j.

Hello Jack.

thanks for the mention but, are we the only two who can see and actually say what is on a post?

Hello Baby Bear,

I hope you are well today.

While you and Jack clearly are not the only ones who can see these posts, you maybe the only ones talking to people who refuse to think.

Redfred

Hi redfred,

I am pretty fed up today really, but it is not anyone on this site's causing it, personal, you know........... "you maybe the only ones talking to people who refuse to think".

Are you saying Jack and me refuse to think?

If you go back through my posts you will see I have written some pretty long ones saying that tests should be done of various kinds. Now I am saying that from memory so do not hold me to the exact words. I at first took it kinda seriously, but as more posts came through, it was just anecdotal with nothing to back anything up as proof.

If you think I refuse to think, I think that is unfair as I have discussed this problem on a whole number of posts. The one post that was, to be frank, silly. I cannot recall who sent it as I type this now, but it mentioned a being or something like that as if it was a god being discussed. It was nothing silvCrow said, but this other ethereal B/S which closed my mind for a day or so. I do not believe in any god. I have said this already so other posters know where I stand, but some still insist on some kind of conversion on this engineering site. I say again........... engineering site. Nothing to do with fairy stories about if or when there was a god. If you or anyone else wants to discuss 'god',....................... find another site to do it on. I do not say that in a hateful way. But simply refer you to the name of the site and its 'sub title' Engineering site or engineers site".

This is a very personal thing for me. As I say in a previous post all my Family say sh-t like 'may god be with you" at the end on regular letter and I find it an insult. Probably as much of an insult as you and perhaps others think this post is. Well, I come to this site for my interest in engineering. Nothing else.

I think it may be best if you and I agree to disagree, OK? Because I aint discussing god in any way shape or form. You might just as well discuss beans dancing across a baseball diamond.......................

Take care and please read only what I have written, not between the lines. Thanks.

Take care my friend................

=

PS. There is a reason why I do not discuss crap like god. But it happened a whole long time ago when I was a child and it is private.

Take care, and do not read into this that I must now not want to 'talk' to you. I will discuss almost anything but not the 'G' word or anything remotely connected to it.

Baby Bear & Jack,

My apologies for my inexact phrasing. Both of you have thought quite clearly and rationally through this thread. My point was directed toward those who seem to relish mystery over knowledge. These individuals, both here and in real life, cannot accept a rational scientific approach toward solving a mystery. Consciously or unconsciously they do not want the mystery solved. With that in mind I made my comment. I probably should have quoted instead a pop lyric from many years back. "...When no one listens, there's no use talking talking at all. What are words for?..."

Hi redfred,

No problems at all with you my friend! ;=) But I take from your post #189 and your apologies, which from me I am more than willing to accept. Though there was no need really...........So you were really getting at the dreamers and not me or Jack?

Redfred,

Back in the beginning, and I am not going back to look, it was not clear where you stood. That was back then.

Although I think you are sometimes too gentle and kind I read you loud and clear including the post Baby Bear was not clear on.

As for Tippycanoe and SilvCrow I was dead serious. I'll put it out straight forward.

Those folks are either crazies or sickies, or outright frauds. Baby Bear is sensitive about religious questions. I'm not sensitive except in the sense that I instantly recognize and latch on to claims that amount to mysticism insofar as one or another form of mysticism is the way we are led on.

As for this current pair of mystics there really isn't any reason to any longer speak to them. Since neither of them recognizes the possibility of illness that leaves only fraud.

j.

Listening?

We have 2 ears and one mouth. Could it be we were designed to put twice as much effort into listening than speaking?

What were we talking about?

Interesting perspective. I like it.