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Toward an Epistemology of Duct Tape

07/07/2009 2:08 PM

Most of the postings this summer have been of the typical light variety: black holes, complex impedance, chemical rate equations, and other intellectual fluff. It's time we looked at a truly deep and significant concern, lest our brains shrivel away from lack of use.

What do you think the best duct tape, and what is your experience with it?

My current favorite is Gorilla Tape, made by the folks who brought us Gorilla Glue. It has a shiny black back and tremendous tack. I would estimate that it can hold upwards of 10 pounds per square inch (that's 0.3 ...mmm..maybe 2.7...no...well so many grams per square centimeter). I've used it so far as a work holder and on galvanized duct work. It goes on easily, doesn't "stick back" much, has no static cling, and seems to last. I have only used it for about six months and have not subjected it to high heat or sunlight.

It replaced my previous gold standard: Gaffer's Tape. And, it's a little cheaper, though still higher than the standard silvery stuff.

What's yours?

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07/07/2009 2:21 PM

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Whichever roll I can find when I really need it.

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07/07/2009 2:57 PM

I'm lucky enough to have some buddies in some Nascar shops around here. For years they would give me some of those 6" - 8" wide rolls of the stuff they use after racin' & wreckin' those front ends on the cars - that stuff holds that sheet metal where they put it - at speeds over 150 - that stuff is strong I tell you - only problem is I can't find anyone to cut-down the rolls, so I always waste some....

I swear if you broke an axle housing, that stuff might hold it until you could get to a garage....I think ShurTape makes it - it's pricey

But your right, I bought a couple of rolls of that Gorilla Tape & it's on the right track - their glue is amazing stuff to use & get used to...

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07/08/2009 1:02 AM

I can't find anyone to cut-down the rolls, so I always waste some....

a band saw with bar soap for lube works great

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07/07/2009 3:22 PM

"epistemology", had to look that one up. We never used words like that back on the farm.

I use whatever's handy, but use it as infrequently as possible.

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07/07/2009 8:19 PM

It's part of my scheme to set up The Institute for Advanced Studies in Technical Doubletalk at Holy Toledo University. I'm planning on applying for some of this stimulus money to study things like duct tape, cable ties, and the conversion of 6d finishing nails into cotter pins.

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07/08/2009 9:11 AM

Clever! Cable ties need to be studied. I recently bought some and found I could break them very easily...they used to be practically indestructable!

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07/08/2009 9:22 AM

Maybe they were Safety cable ties - who knows how many poor souls have suffered lingering deaths, having tiewrapped their extremities to immovable objects in inaccessible places with indestructible cable ties?

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07/08/2009 10:59 AM

Ya mean like David Carradine did?

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07/07/2009 3:32 PM

I am a fan of a 3M tape that comes in rolls about 2" wide and have a red flat colour. It is often used to make covers and protections in engines. I like it because it sticks over almost anything - even metal housings with oil and solvents! Don't know about its load capacity, but it sticks fine on dirty, weared parts.

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07/07/2009 6:14 PM

I though you were talking bout usin duct tape to stitch up a woman after givin birth.

Duh silly me.

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07/07/2009 6:40 PM

ROFL!

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07/07/2009 7:20 PM

Did you mean: episiotomy

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07/07/2009 6:39 PM

"What's yours?"

I'll have a pint of Ruddles Best, thanks very much, while I cogitate over duct tape.

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07/07/2009 7:35 PM

Try to remember, I live in Pittsburgh. Our beer comes in two varieties: Iron City in a bottle and Iron City in a glass. And some bars charge extra for a clean glass. But I do like that pint size and think it's something we ought to adopt.

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07/10/2009 10:28 PM

What ever happened to Duquesne Beer, Tech Golden Pilsner and Old Frothingslosh Beer?

I like the post, but I started thinking back to when I first remember using duct tape (back in '64). It was green at that time as I remember.

How about a history of duct tape?

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07/11/2009 12:37 PM

My God! How out of date are you guys up there? Miss Frothingslosh has been in the workhouse these past thirty years. She's 84, dead broke, toothless, and has advanced dementia.

If you used green duct tape in '64, that may have been cargo tape. They seem to have quit making that. Shame. It was good. Was yours olive drab?

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07/17/2009 9:00 AM

I seem to remember seeing a new release of Old Frothingslosh beer a few years ago. I used to collect beer cans so when things like this came out I had to buy them. Ran out of space so the collection was gotten rid of except far the ones I considered special collectors items.

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07/17/2009 12:34 PM

Perhaps they used Fatima's grand-daughter?

http://www.tias.com/8515/PictPage/1921749115.html

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07/08/2009 3:23 AM

<...What's yours?...>

Oh, that's very kind. An Adnams Broadside, please.

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07/08/2009 4:17 AM

Broadside's a bit too 'hoppy' for my taste. Which reminds me ...

It was a hot day a week or so back - I had 20 minutes to kill changing busses at Reading station, so I thought "Three Guineas - real ale" thought I, and went in. Not being familiar with any of the half-dozen offerings on hand pumps, I asked the barmaid female barperson if she could recommend one that wasn't too hoppy. She looked blank and passed the request to a barman male barperson. He indicated the rightmost pump, and assured me (in some variety of central European accent) that it was not too hoppy.

I read him the wording from the pump label - "Fine rich flavour of golden hops". He assured me that all the beers were hoppy - it was "essential to making the beer".

After expressing surprise, and saying that I hadn't been aware of that in 40-odd years of drinking (and brewing) the stuff, I asked for a pint from the leftmost pump.

What are pubs coming to?

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07/08/2009 9:19 AM

Hmmmm...I don't know. I prefer a malty beer to a hoppy one. However, I seem to be acquiring a taste for the hop flavor...

I'm afraid around here, the light lager beers are taking over. To me they are tasteless nonsense, but beer drinkers love them. For me, the darker the better.

As for duct tape, whatever is handy! I don't use enough of it to develop a preference, but when you need it, you need it!

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07/07/2009 8:52 PM

3M Duct Tape is good for uses where water is a consideration. Permicil Gaffers tape is a superior tape for it has very strong adhesion, but will not typically damage walls if you know how to use it.

Gorillia tape is extremely strong and I bought it and gave it away as an Xmas present to some of my work mates a couple of years ago.

In my judgement Gorilla tape is pretty much a combo of the attributes of Gaffers tape and Duct tape. Shurtape is really not quite as good as Permicil, though both are acceptable on set. The Gorillia Glue is odd in the way it foams and expands, and I haven't really learned how to get the best results from it. My last purely technical question to CR4 members concerned what glue to use to put acrylic sheets together with, and achieve a clear bond between the sheets.

3M Super 77 was recommended, and it worked well, though it did leave a fog, and really wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

Nobody but myself actually knew what I was looking for and so since what I got it to do what I was attempting to do, was not known to be flawed, except by myself... Nobody was really the wiser.

I have been called to be a glue. I like to hold things together.

Day in and day out having a roll of Gaffers tape around, is a fine fix for many things. Typically the only place to get Gaffers Tape is in a Photo store oriented towards professionals. P.S. I thought we were degenerating towards questions about why people got fat, or isn't a shame Michael Jackson died. I repaired my cellphone screen with 2 inch Scotch clear packing tape. Let us all have an enjoyable for no reason at all, summer day.

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07/07/2009 10:08 PM

I use Duck Tape (no seriously), from Walmart. Mediocre quality but very cheap. It's not like I'm going to actually repair anything with it, just hold it together for a while.

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07/07/2009 10:54 PM

It's not like I'm going to actually repair anything with it,

Blasphemy! (at least in some parts of the US and amongst Red Green fans)

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07/08/2009 9:22 AM

If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

I'm still working on the chipper made from and old dryer...

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07/07/2009 11:53 PM

Duct tape I have to admit I grab where I happen to see sales, quality varies greatly. After the comments I'll have to try Gorilla.

Actually had to look this one up - Self-fusing silicone rubber tape

Then there is the high abrasion stuff - 3M Temflex

The REAL 200 MPH tape - 3M Interarmare Also known as leading edge tape

Then there are varieties of zip tie and various goopy things in tubes

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07/08/2009 12:33 AM

I am a stone mason and the homeowners I currently work for are the kings of ducttape. They bought me a new handtruck after moving 30 yards of very big rocks bent mine out of shape and blew a tyre. They ducttaped a bow to it. A tubeless tyre blew on a wheelbarrow. The guy tried to ducttape rouund the wheel to blow it up again with a compressor! Unsuccessful but hey! I think it nearly worked. He ducttaped a huge yellow plastic fishing hat to a ball cap that fitted about a month ago to protect against sunburn and it is still in use. They ducttaped about an inch of padding on sledgehammers where the handle meets the head to stop the handle getting dinged and damaged there. I asked about getting my sunburnt plummers butt ducttaped but aparently they know of some lady in the states that already got that treatment and they have seen the pictures. So they are dedicated fans of duct tape!

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"I asked about getting my sunburnt plummers butt ducttaped"

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For the rim seal of a wheelbarrow, or handtruck tire, to facilitate enough seal to inflate, myself and a workmate had success using silicon out of the chalkgun.

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07/08/2009 6:48 AM

I've discovered a duct tape that will literally pull your skin off your face if you by any chance happen to let it smack you there while using it. Damn that hurts, but on the bright side I didn't have to shave that part of my face far a few days.

Its used by Modular/Mobile home companies to tape any cuts in the plastic material that they use on the bottoms of the homes. You have to cut it it will not tear with just your bare hands. Its about $15 a roll though so I'd use sparingly. Sorry don't have the name or manufacturer handy.

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Sounds like the business! Be interested to know the details.

BTW - according to Google & your co-ords, you seem to live under (or maybe in?) a tree in the carpark of a branch (no pun intended) of Martin Instrument. How do you plead?

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Please ignore the "Martin Instrument" twaddle - I was fooled by a sponsored advert on Google Maps . The "tree" bit still holds!

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Actually its the parking lot where I work.

Since I spend most of my time on CR4 while at work I figured I'd use it as my location.

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07/08/2009 1:31 PM

While on the subject of tape. According to a biography I read of the master spy Wild Bill Donovan, he used to wrap uncoded letters in strapping tape, and throw them in regular mail.

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07/11/2009 12:51 AM

Here's my duct tape story.

I had an accident that shattered the glass in the front driver's side door. I tried the usual brands of duct tape to hold clear plastic to cover the missing window. Most could hold up to highway speeds, but not to high temperatures. Foil tape worked. I use regular duct tape for some things, but I've found that for cracked windows, foil tape is best.

As for me being harmed in the accident, don't worry,,,, I'm okay.... okay.... okay...okay.

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07/11/2009 5:46 AM

The tape seems generic - no manufacturer is cited.

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