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Electric Cars with Lightweight Batteries

07/21/2009 11:49 AM

I notice that all electric car has one common problem heavy battery and need charge after being use .I thing it possible to build a car that dont need heavy battery or charge after being use.I would like to network with engineer and technician who is interested about that projects

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07/21/2009 1:39 PM

I would be interested in hearing your Idea.

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07/21/2009 2:30 PM

The 5 miles of mains cable is a bit of a drag.
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07/21/2009 2:33 PM

I cant gave my idea here Im waiting waiting the patern.But if you are interested Ill be more than happy to discuss it offline

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07/21/2009 3:25 PM

Are you talking about a vehicle like an electric trolley bus where the electricity is fed into the electric motor direct from the grid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus

Or some form of onboard electricity generator such as - HHO electrolyser, free energy magnet motor, perpetual motion device, petrol engine to power electric generator, etc.

Don't waste money on getting a patent if a similar idea has already been patented, especially if it is unworkable from a practical point of view (or is a free energy/over unity concept).

Can you give us all a bit of a hint as to where the power comes from as usually these sort of threads end up being about unworkable overunity devices or impractical designs (like laying a long track of copper rollers on the ground and have a carbon-brush equiped vehicle drive over them to extract power directly from the grid (like a big slot car)). True story, and the person even patented the idea before asking for advice.

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07/21/2009 4:11 PM

no tight to anything outside.I say like a conventional car we have right know.It will charge itself.My only problem is the heater during the winter.

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07/21/2009 6:48 PM

So your idea is some form of onboard charging unit that is powered by the car's movement (or existing engine) and generates slightly more energy than it uses (as indicated by your comment that the heater load would exceed the generated power).

This really, really sounds like a classic totally unworkable over unity generator idea of which virtually every way, shape and form has been proposed and dis-proven (see numerous previous threads and posts on CR4 on the subject).

Before you go any further can you please email me using CR4's private email system and provide more details (or explain in more detail here if you wish). I am assuming you have not yet got a patent (the patent office cracked down a number of years ago on issuing new patents for over unity and perpetual motion devices).

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07/21/2009 4:17 PM

I read what you writte.But I thing if someone want to bring something new it should be better.And I thing it's possible.I also appreciate your feedback among all it show you are optimist.

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07/21/2009 4:36 PM

Well, how about a car, with a small petrol engine attached to a dynamo, to directly feed current into an electric motor ?

Is that it ?

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07/21/2009 11:26 PM

Being optimistic over the impossible can only result in disappointment.

This is begining to sound a but suss...

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07/21/2009 4:16 PM

hmm.... let me see, an electric car with no electric storage potential. It must operate on pure magic!

But seriously, I highly doubt the idea you are proposing is unique, and like already stated, is most likely not possible due to the limitations of the real world.

But if you wish to qualify your idea I'm all ears to hear and advise/help in any way if it does turn out to not defy the laws that govern our existence. In addition, I will gladly sign a non-disclosure and noncompete agreement with you, so you have no need to worry.

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Re: Electric Cars with Lightweight Batteries

07/21/2009 11:33 PM

How about if we mount a wind generator in the grill to keep the battery charged? And another on the trunk lid. The one on the trunk lid would pivot to catch the wind when stopped to recharge the batteries.

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07/22/2009 2:06 AM

Here you are:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Crazyhorse+electric+Pinto&aq=f

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07/22/2009 3:27 AM

How about the sodium-sulphur battery?

  • High energy storage per unit weight
  • High power output per unit weight
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07/22/2009 3:37 AM

Make me a 40 Ah, 600 VDC pack that weighs less than 150kg (and can be taken mobile) and I'll buy it!

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Re: Electric Cars with Lightweight Batteries

07/22/2009 6:23 AM

i think that the size of the battery is directly proportional to its power .......so u can work on the reduction in the weigth of car and to make it aerodynamic.......this is the only way to reduce the size of the battery

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07/22/2009 11:07 AM

I would suggest a car utilizing a periodic exothermic chemical reaction applying an insentropic force to the wheels.

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11/11/2009 7:29 AM

D'oh!

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11/11/2009 5:44 PM

If I read the clue correctly - "periodic exothermic chemical reaction", it kind of infers "bang, bang" in which case I think he is referring to an internal combustion engine.

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07/23/2009 5:36 AM

Good luck

Following a principle that I learnt in college 40 years ago, energy cannot be created from nothing.

You can transform one form of energy into another form normally loosing a certain percentage of the same in efficiency loss.

To run a car you need some form of energy which can cost less or more depending on the source.

The widely experimented sources of energy are fuels, steam, chemical, electric, air as comprised, air to generate electrical energy , sun for photo electric cells, nuclear and may be others. Since perpetual motion does not exist down here on earth on our roads you have to take into account the force of gravity and air resistance and other forces which will reduce the energy efficiency of the car.

However what we considered science fiction not many years ago has now become reality. I do hope you succeed in your venture. If I could be of any help I will willingly dedicate some time to you.

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Re: Electric Cars with Lightweight Batteries

07/27/2009 2:35 AM

The main problem when I looked into this myself not long ago, was the weight of lead.

Of great interest to me is an improvement... LINK

Other alternative chemistries to lead and battery construction are an option with elements such as Cadmium, Lithium etcetera being rare and expensive, but of great interest and I believe in use in some hybrids LINK.

Good luck.

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