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Electrical Heater

08/25/2009 4:56 PM

DEAR ALL

i'm facing the following problem with the electrical heater in my factory
first we use on off control tech. using temperature controller and contactors in order to maintain the temperature of the heater at the certain level, but for better performance i search for another tech. such like phase angle control or integral cycle control
as the voltage value not constant all the day and this make trouble and problems while operation,so i think to over come the voltage variation i need the phase angle control but if there any other suggestion i will be grateful
the heater is used for automotive glass tempering

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Re: ELECTRICAL HEATER

08/26/2009 12:53 AM

If my memory is correct, an SCR-type heat controller combines both of the concepts you mention: Phase-angle switching and PID (proportional-integral-derivative) control. You may be able to find catalog and technical info by searching "heater controller" or "solid-state heater controller" or the like. This will also give you a few manufacturers, and you can then consult with them or their distributors. There are also programmable "ramp-and-soak" controllers that can bring your temperature up at any desired speed, maintain the temperature for the proper time, and then cool down at a desired speed, such as used in heat treating metals. You should be able so succeed rather easily in this.

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Re: ELECTRICAL HEATER

08/26/2009 1:57 AM

What type and size of heaters banks are you using?

You could replace the contactors with Solid State Relays SSR and a temperature controller that has SSR output for better temperature control.

For even better control, split heater bank into smaller zones, if possible. You will then need to add more controllers, but your control will be much better and the size of the SSRs can be reduced.

Just ensure you have adequate ventilation and heat sinks for the SSRs.

Most of the time, phase angle control is used for quartz or IR heaters.

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Re: ELECTRICAL HEATER

08/26/2009 2:57 AM

If you are sensing the temperature and using the on-off controller, then voltage variations are taken care of. At lower voltages the on/off time ratio will increase to compensate voltage drop. One must remember that power drop is proportional to square of the voltage drop. If the heaters are insufficient one may get into a situation where even at 100% on time there is insufficient power at the lower voltage.

If the load and heaters are reasonably matched, best performance is obtained with on-off controllers. These give less trouble as well. Phase angle control at high loads may lead to unacceptable EMI issues. Time proportioning full voltage operation is better.

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Re: Electrical Heater

08/27/2009 11:35 AM

first of all thanks for your cooperation and opinions

and for more information the heater consist of 9 zones, and each zone has two

opposite sub heaters, and if i use on/off control i can made use of plc to monitor the

value of volt and calculate the time in heater automatically instead of putting it

manually, but i still need the heat equation of the electrical heater considering

the contribution factor between zones

(we use nickle crom wirs for heating) each zone has 3phase power = 21.66 k.w

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