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Underwater Welding

09/21/2009 11:47 PM

I am 31yrs old I am in prison, but I am looking for a good paying job. I would like to have some information on underwater welding but I don't know where to look.

How can I find a school? Or more information? I will be living in Torrance, California

Are the schools expensive ?

Will they excep someone that has been in and out of prison?

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Re: Underwater Welding

09/21/2009 11:55 PM

Welcome - hope you get out soon. There are two aspects, the first is to learn to weld to a high standard. The second is to learn to dive to a very high standard.

Both skills will stand you in good stead to earn a good living.

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09/22/2009 12:05 AM

Since you have access to a pc, why not start by searching for "underwater welding schools".

Realistically, you will be starting "underwater" from prison. Add 5 years to the career path, if you are dedicated and have support.

Your motivation, "I am looking for a good paying job" may not impress the powers-that-be, but at least you're honest.

The schools are expensive.

Good Luck.

American Welding Society - Underwater Welding

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09/22/2009 12:16 AM

good background material can be found in the US Navy Underwater Cutting and Welding Manual:

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/pdf/cut_weld.pdf

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09/22/2009 12:23 AM
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09/22/2009 4:43 AM
  1. Get welding and diving certificates, and then get certified for underwater welding.
  2. Yes, they'll accept ex-cons as long as it isn't a security-sensitive job.
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09/22/2009 5:57 PM

An earlier post said add five years since you are coming from prison, I do not agree. I have seen ex-cons turn their lives around by learning welding first at the local community college and then at the local trade shop. I suggest staying away from the underwater welding schools, because - (Skywalker has to agree with DVader...) you can learn welding, then you can learn diving, then go for the underwater welding certs. Both can be learned relatively inexpensively. Find a group of contacts, usually in the courses, and ask to borrow equipment in exchange for you helping them with something. That's how I learned diving, I took a course at the local dive shop but made it all the way through without renting or buying anything except a prescription lense underwater mask. I believe this to be the least expensive and shortest route to your new career once you are out. Good luck and do not give up.

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09/22/2009 10:53 PM

Given that most underwater welding work would require a TWIC card in the US, there could be security issues that would prevent you getting one. I've heard of (but have not seen verifiable evidence of) people who were denied TWIC cards for just joining the tea party movement (and thereby being labeled "domestic terrorists"). I don't know if that is true or not, but I would not put it past the current administration. I would contact the DHS and verify that your conviction would not preclude your getting a TWIC card before spending the money if I were you.

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09/22/2009 11:38 PM

Another Idea...

Assuming you still have some time to serve?... can you undertake a welding course while you are still indisposed? In Australia I believe study courses are available to inmates. If this is a possibility, you could get a head start on your chosen new career. Its worth a try, & someone who is actively persuing a trade would surely improve their chances once released.

Hope this is an option for you in CA

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09/23/2009 12:03 AM

Start with the following manual: U.S. Navy Underwater Cutting & Welding Manual (200 pages free download): Under_Water_Cutting__Welding_Manual

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09/23/2009 8:08 AM

I would suggest that your very BEST choice would be either the Navy or the Marines, and enlist for their Underwater repair school, where they'll teach underwater welding, etc. Then when you get out of the service, you'll have a high paying trade and a good record as a vet. One of my friends is an ex-SEAL, and he did years of underwater diving and welding after leaving the service..

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09/23/2009 8:52 AM

Greetings, Staley, and thanks for joining.

Working for (offshore) diving companies now for 17 years, I think I can state the following without suffering rebuke.

There are only a handful of divers in the world who perform 'nothing-but' subsea welding. Of the billions of dollars paid annually for commercial diving services, only a miniscule fraction goes into sub-surface welding operations, and a good deal of that welding is performed in "dry habitats" beneath the surface. Lots of research has gone into welding-in-the-wet. However, the physics of joining metals is unlikely to ever evolve to a point where perpetual quenching-while-welding is not going to present problems with the integrity of the final product.

"Yes", ship hulls have been successfully repaired using U/W welding, rather than brining them into dry dock.... but the vast majority ARE brought-in, rather than deal with the logistics of an U/W repair.

Then, too, of the thousands of miles of subsea pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico: more of them are repaired by using cranes (on barges, sometimes the size of a football field) to drag the pipeline to the surface ~ repair it on-deck ~ then lower it back to the sea floor.

Commercial Diving can be a very lucrative career. But, following your dive-schooling, you will undoubtedly have to "prove yourself" with any employer by serving as a "Tender" first ... managing the umbilical for divers, sending and retrieving tools (via rope "downlines"), and operating the decompression chambers. Only after showing that you "know-the-ropes" (oftentimes this may take a few years) will you be given a chance to actually make the big $$.

Commercial Diving is a career. U/W welding is an infrequently-performed specialy within that career...

...just as Taxi-driving is a job. Driving a taxi around "Daisy Circle, Hicksville, USA" is an infrequently-performed task by any individual driver.

There IS a tremendous shortage of good welders in this country. And getting certified at that task alone (which getting-good-at will be a challenge, both mentally and physically) ought to bring you a VERY substantial income.

Wishing you well ~

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09/23/2009 10:50 AM

I agree with most posts. However you need to examine how long it will take you to get to the point of making good money. As I understand it , commercial divers often do not have a long time to work. In other words, it is a young mans job. However consider some other u/w work such as inspections. Good Luck

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09/23/2009 11:16 AM

One other point, at least in the Oilfield industry, the water depths are getting so deep that with the exception of repairs and inspections of platforms in the splash zone, everything is done by ROV's now. It has to be. Divers simply can't survive at those depths. Many ex-divers transistion to being ROV pilots when their bodies can no longer take sat diving and decompression damage.

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09/23/2009 1:40 PM

I looked into this.

Get your welders lic. (about ten month coarse) and then you could go for your underwater tag. (Another coarse at another school) You should be done in a year and a half from when you start, If you put everything into it.

I'm in Canada so list of my schools wouldn't help. They are out there just look.

But that is the order you would go to get it.

Cheers and good luck.

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09/23/2009 4:11 PM

The most important thing... Do you want to weld or do you just want a high paying job? Asses your motives and abilities. Have you done some kind of work in the past that has made you happy? Find something you enjoy doing and you'll never have to "work" a day in your life. Big money is nice but you have to have something you enjoy for the long term.

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09/24/2009 9:46 AM

Most certainly go for your welding certificates first, then tie up with with a company doing structural and or pipeline welding. when you consider you have enough experience join a diving company and learn the ropes eventually you will work your way to diving, this is the moment of truth as not everyone becomes a good diver you are either a natural or a lousy diver at this point in time you may not want to proceed with the diving part but you will have your welding to fall back on.

There are some company's who specialise in underwater welding they travel round the world doing emergency repair jobs,sorry I cannot bring to mind who they were just now do an internet search.

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09/24/2009 12:13 PM

Hate to bust yer bubble, here, but:

Neither IMCA not ADCI would permit ANYONE to simply "join a diving company and learn the ropes"...!

One does not (any longer) simply "work your way to diving".

Not a SINGLE Offshore Oil & Gas company, Hydroelectric (dam) outfit, marine contractor, nor any other profitable entity would allow anyone to "get in the water" on a project for them unless that individual had successfully achieved certification as a "Commercial Diver".

For the same reason that laws now exist *mandating* that you wear seat belts...

...and routine inspections are *mandated* on ships, planes, etc...

the INSURANCE RISK would be intolerable.

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10/17/2009 11:49 PM

I would search Google the internet if they allow that in prison. Maybe the library. As far as school I am not aware of criminal record being a factor. But job applications you must declare felony and even DUI which I think is stupid. It sounds like a interesting job hope you get it.

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08/23/2010 11:14 AM

I am a felon that is going into the underwater welding field. Been out for about 2 and half years. This is a felon friendly field. You won't be working around desk jockies out here. School...Ocean Corporation, Houston Texas. that is where I'm at. Personally I think it is one of the best out there. After looking into many that is the place i figured was for me. Not cheap, tuition ran just shy of 18,000. Funding is available.This is a good line of work for those of us with a colorful past. I incourage you to look more into it. Good luck, keep your head up, this too shall pass.

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11/20/2010 12:30 AM

Yes, the school is no problem with a history in the prison system... but were you able to get your TWIC card in order to go offshore?? I was denied mine and am applying for the third time. I graduated Ocean Corp in Houston already, but it is seeming to be useless since I can't get my TWIC card. Any ideas of jobs not requiring a TWIC where my certifications from Ocean Corp would come in handy??

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06/26/2011 9:22 PM

Hi! I am so excited to tell you that California Institute for Men in Chino has its own commercial diving school and trains underwater welders and is only for prisoners!!! Get transferred now and stay in prison so you can be trained with CA paying your bill!!! Otherwise, yes the school is very expensive and takes years to complete on the outside. The best bet is to join the US NAVY if you can. But, the best bet for you is to transfer to the California Institute for Men in Chino, CA. Good luck!

Jackie : )

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