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Boiler Operation

10/20/2009 1:06 AM

Dear All,

I am sharing my experience, I wish all yours opinion on my observatin.

After long maintenance we started our water tube Boiler with slow fire for 2 days. First day steam drum vent valve was open & every thing was OK, next day in night shift Boiler man closed airvent as there was rise in pressure to 2 Bar(G). Morning he observed that Drum water level gauges both side (Reflex Type) were not showing any level but Level transmitter was showing water level in drum. Physically level was there. I request all pl explain me how air locking takes place in level gauges of steam drum when air vent closed during initial strat up ( main stop valve is closed). I also request all to send me the sequence of operation of air vant valve during startup.

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Re: Boiler Operation

10/20/2009 9:21 AM

Clearly, if there is an airlock in the water level sight glasses, then they will not indicate correctly.

Is there a set of gauge glass cocks on the system? A railway locomotive boiler, for example, would have three on each gauge: one to isolate the steam space, one to isolate the water space, and one to open to drain. Try blowing the glasses through to drain, both top and bottom, and see what happens.

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Re: Boiler Operation

10/20/2009 9:29 AM

Oh, there you are!... there seems no sign of life from the usual suspects, there's been tubleweed blowing across my desk.
that pesky squirrel seems to have done a runner too.
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10/21/2009 10:39 AM

I agree. The gauge glasses are sitting in basically a dead end position off the boiler and would not necessarily get vented unless the water level was raised to the top of the glass expelling all the air which is generally not the case. Aboard ship, periodic blowing down of the boiler water gauge glasses was a normal routine during one of the watches.

During a return to service it would be done as soon as there was sufficient pressure in the system, say just 10 to 15 psi even, to expel the air and establish a true level in the gauges.

The three valve set-up should be normal. This allows you to close the supply from either the water side or the steam side to blow down. It was normal to close the water side since the hot water would flash and produce a greater volume of steam than when you just were using the steam side. A lot would depend on the type of boiler and the actual conditions of operation.

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10/21/2009 2:55 AM

1st answer was good- it is a safety requirement that level gauges are tested as are low water alarms etc regularly- a blockage can lead to your situation- as to vent open close- the idea is to remove air from system- as pressure builds open vent- otherwise corrosion can be ocurring if vent is open- a very good book in my time was called STEAM- I would think still very relevant.

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10/21/2009 12:16 PM

It is obvious to me that your training and knowledge are not sufficient for the work you are doing.

There should never be a reason for a professional to ask such questions of anybody, let alone CR4.....

Get a proper fully trained professional in before you blow yourself and anyone else up........

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10/23/2009 7:52 AM

Dear Guest,

Thanks for your reply, if you read my submission , I have mentioned " I am sharing my experience"; I am always intersted in sharing experiences & learning from experts like you. As I know CR4 is open forum we can share all our doubts. I may not be professional but I want to be professional. Pl encourage the students.

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10/23/2009 6:17 PM

Do you realise that in gaining experience, you may kill yourself and a few others.......?

Surely you aren't THAT stupid?

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10/23/2009 9:50 PM

Dear Guest,

I have full respect for you and all other members of CR4. I will take your advice positively. In future also I expect same upfront remarks from you to make me wise.

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Re: Boiler Operation

10/21/2009 5:07 PM

joravi1, this is most likely due to a "check" inside of the isolation valves. See if you have this type of valve. Or 1 of these isolation valves maybe closed. good luck.

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