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Welded Base Plate

07/15/2010 6:05 AM

Hi,

We are in the process of fabricating saddles for LPG storage tanks. In this regards i want to ask a question regarding base plate. We want to weld two plates togeather to complete the overall length of the base plate. Weld seem will be in the middle of the base plate, lengthwise. there is also a saddle rib exactly on weld seam. This whole ( base plate welded in the middle) is not something shown on drawing, but we are just short of plate and we dont have enough time to go for new ones.

My question is, can we go with this idea? is there any design complications involved with it? Code allow this?

Infact I have never seen such base plates. and I am a little bit worried about their use and i couldnt find anything that negates this.

Please reply with some good references.

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EUIPDE

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Re: Welded Base Plate

07/15/2010 10:03 PM

Little difficult to understand for me. LPG tanks? How big - horizontal - vertical? Normally the base should be strong enough to support a full tank. Are you going to join pieces lengthwise or laminating them to get a thicker one? The latter is not such a good idea because it will cause extensive rust. Normally the norms are about the tanks, not the supports. I have seen big cylindrical tanks laying down on concrete saddles.

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Re: Welded Base Plate

07/16/2010 12:43 AM

For LPG vessels (Spherical or Cylindrical), you can join any plates to each other by butt welding even those plates are shell plates (pressure part) or saddle and/or baseplate (non pressure part), taking into consideration the rules of the code you fellow.

Also, it is allowed to fabricate such a reinforcing pad (pressure part) of such a nozzle to be consists from two halfs, taking the code rules into consideration, like doing RT, ... etc.

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............................................................................................................Cylindrical LPG horizontal vessel

• Notice the differences between: Shell Plate, Saddle Plate, and Base Plate.

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Re: Welded Base Plate

07/16/2010 11:13 AM

If prepared and welded properly the weld seam should be at equal to, or stronger, than base metal. Bevel plate edges, do full penetration welding with backgouging, NDT, etc. per ASME Sec IX, and grind top and bottom weld to be flush with plate surface. Ensure proper base plate and weld materials. Also, must ensure that both plates are level after welding to reduce additional loading stress. As an alternative, consider cutting the second plate in half and butt welding to both ends of center plate. Same weld procedures should be used. Selection may be dictated by location of anchor bolts (should not be on a weld seam).

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Re: Welded Base Plate

07/22/2010 1:17 PM

If this is for trade use this would not be satisfactory under the Pressure equipment directive 97/23 EC

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