To Save the Globe with Floating Energy Barges (FEB)

Curious I am

Wish to ask respected Tornado, why this strange babble talk man, not scientific or engineer person, permitted to post on CR4?

Is for entertainment?

Is dismantle of silliness permitted?

"My name is Stone and I have known this fantastic man Leo for many years now, he will do anything for the earth and he work always for helping the earth from more pollution from all of us people."

Dear Stone

Please explain to Leo that 'mission statements' built around proven impractical concepts is the source of

"so many negative people talking" about things they know are proven impractical concepts.

Please explain to Leo, that the burden of proof that they are practical rests with Him.

And please recognize yourself;

A. Not one 'proof' of practical has been offered by Leo.

B. Leo has avoided all calls for practical proof

C. Leo has made it a 'personal matter' - not a 'civil discussion of facts' - because he has no practical solutions. Neither of his own or 'assumed'.

D. If the world wastes time resources and effort on 'impractical' - the cost to Earth is far more than even the current 'degradation'

_{(& you're not the only one who can c/p)}

I have doubts that the Professor has any idea of the Kaputski Group's existence...

I am not scared of the truth

can you say the same?

These continued attempts to try to portray inquiries into the facts surrounding the vague & overblown claims you continue to make, as somehow being unfair or without basis, further erode any credibility in this community.

Truth????? Why are you, as well as all others here, not using your name, only nicknames, why????? Stone...

I stand in every corner I´m just around the bend

Yes, I would say the underlined quote sums it up quite nicely*

_{*this may be a British reference. Translations are available at cost.}

But I'm not from earth. I'm from Gallifraye.

If I was going to build them, I wouldn't let a competitor know until the market was sliding away from him. How commercially stupid to show your hand like that!

Well, Obama says only what he thinks people want to hear, whether it is true or not. Welcome to the cattle herd.

Oh, where are you getting your funding for the barges? Are any of them in production yet? Do you have links to see progress?

I didn't know what a FEB was, so I googled 'floating energy barge' and got the following. (Bold emphasis mine.)

April 29, 2008
MORE ON BROADWATER ENERGY AND: GAS (FUEL), ENERGY AND POWER, LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS, NATURAL GAS, NEW YORK STATE, LONG ISLAND SOUND, CONNECTICUT, COMMERCE DEPARTMENT, PATERSON, DAVID A, RELL, M JODI
No Floating Gas Plant; States Weigh Options
By JOHN RATHER
NOW that New York has rejected Broadwater Energy's floating natural gas plant in Long Island Sound, New York and Connecticut will rely on gas pipelines, conservation and renewable energy sources to meet emerging power needs, officials and others in both states said.

April 20, 2008
MORE ON BROADWATER ENERGY AND: GAS (FUEL), LONG ISLAND SOUND, CONNECTICUT, LONG ISLAND (NY)
Gas Plant in L.I. Sound Is Rejected
By ANTHONY DEPALMA; ANGELA MACROPOULOS CONTRIBUTED REPORTING.
Gov. David A. Paterson said that the $700 million liquefied natural gas plant would put a large section of the Sound off limits to boaters and would not guarantee low-cost gas for Long Island.
Sinking Broadwater
The last thing Long Island Sound needs is more industrialization, so it is a relief that Broadwater, the floating natural-gas terminal planned for the middle of the sound, is off.

April 16, 2009
MORE ON BROADWATER ENERGY AND: LIQUIFIED NATURAL GAS, CONSERVATION OF RESOURCES, PIPELINES, EDITORIALS, NATURAL GAS, NEW YORK STATE, LONG ISLAND SOUND, CONNECTICUT, SHELL OIL CO, TRANSCANADA CORP, COMMERCE DEPARTMENT
Broadwater Will Ask U.S. to Authorize Gas Terminal
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
An energy company will appeal to the Commerce Department in its bid to build the world's first floating liquefied natural gas terminal in Long Island Sound.

April 11, 2008
MORE ON BROADWATER ENERGY AND: LIQUIFIED NATURAL GAS, CONSERVATION OF RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL GAS, NEW YORK STATE, LONG ISLAND SOUND, CONNECTICUT, LONG ISLAND (NY), PATERSON, DAVID A
Scandal Ends Project's Life (or Not)
By PETER APPLEBOME
One person matters in the regulatory process more than anyone else. That would be the governor of New York.

April 3, 2008
MORE ON BROADWATER ENERGY AND: GAS (FUEL), PROSTITUTION, SUSPENSIONS, DISMISSALS AND RESIGNATIONS, BARGES AND SCOWS, POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT, GOVERNORS (US), ETHICS, REGULATION AND DEREGULATION OF INDUSTRY, NATURAL GAS, NEW YORK STATE, LONG ISLAND SOUND, CONNECTICUT, SPITZER, ELIOT, SPITZER, ELIOT L, PATERSON, DAVID A
Saying No to Broadwater
The benefits promised by Broadwater, the quarter-mile-long floating energy barge in Long Island Sound, are overcome by more pressing long-range concerns.

If you are "allways surching" [sic, sic] for talented people, why don't you issue a bona fide job offer to such persons? I admit this won't be easy, because no genuinely talented person would ever search for you. Instead, they will all run away. You might for a time be able to fleece a few gullible fools from their money. Whee! But I'm with nickname; you should be hospitalized, and maybe prosecuted. Unfortunately, science is not now able to sue false witnesses for slander or libel, probably because science is not yet a legal person.

kastrupsky, I read another of your strange ideas for saving the world in another post of yours, and I gave you an address to contact so that you could expand on your idea, but you never did, so I don't believe you more than the next person would!

Xanasax

You, as well as so many other"brilliant minded" know EVERYTHING about mine and ALL of the Patent in the world during Floating Energy Barges, ok. Why are you wondering about my inventions? Answer me only this here, ok. Did YOU really KNOW ALL constructions for Floating Energy Barges, all over the world? Do you REALLY know all the inventions during Wind Power, Sun Power and ALL other patent and Innovations from all over the globe for HOW to SAVE the World from crashing totally? Do you know everything now happening all over the globe? Cool down and use your head. Doesn't matter how smart you all think you are, there is always one who is smarter than you, ok. It doesn't mean it´s me, but there are smarter guys around the globe, but they do not like to be arguing with so intelligent people like you, here in this forum. Right now, I have to deliver my 36^th Floating Energy Barge, and my 27^th Wind Mill and my 164-thousand Energy Blinds, this week. You see, my mentor 50 years back, gave to me the best word anyone could give; DO IT, and let NOBODY STOP you… My mentors name? INGVAR KAMPRAD, IKEA, and he are now one of the richest men on earth, ok. Smile boys, smile, and always try to stop those who really like to save our globe. One more question, are you doing anything for saving the globe? If yes, tell people and do something REAL.

Where can I order one of these barges? My local river is very polluted and I would love to save even just the small part of the planet on which I live...and inspire others to do what they can where they live.

I know I can pay for the barge as I recently had a very large win on the Australian Lottery - I would also consider investing in your remarkable company.

Can you post pictures of the existing barges so I can see how big there are and think about delivery methods. Could I have mine painted blue?

Dear Professor, Architect and of course INVENTOR, Here you are again with your world saving solutions. I am glad but could you please tell us where you actually are home since then we could look and recommend the nearest possibility to get a medical support and it will be helpful for all, for you since after it you will be more in shape and for us because for a time you will not any more disturb our site. According to your previous explanations what you have in mind is a barge with 3 energy generators types on board: - a hydrodynamic turbine using the kinetic energy of water flow - a wind generator - solar panels. All mounted on above mentioned barge which will be anchored at a given place and will supply thus POWER (it is you preferred word) to the near by community. I think that you never made a calculation of available power since you are unable to discover what kind of gear you need from your wind turbine to the generator (as you asked for help in a previous thread). I dare make some comments although you will find them erroneous and against you in your syndrome of persecution. - All those technologies are already in use so that nothing is new. - Velocity of water flow is proportional to the slope and is reduced due to friction of flow to the "channel walls". If you introduce a high loss due to the fact that you take energy from the flow the velocity will decrease and you can run into troubles. But that you do not accept since tour barges float. Yes but the river sides do not float and if water speed is less and the water flow is the same a bigger section will be required to let pass by. You name the results as you want. - Where there are rivers not always the wind is strong so that a wind generator can be a non economical investment. On a floating support it will be difficult if not possible to exploit a big rotor wind generator since the forces are tremendous. As you may know Sandia Lab are developing a path to design even bigger rotors since the trend is to about 150-200 m diameter. It appears that the bigger the diameter the higher the ROI although the investment grows as well. - As for solar POWER (you see I use the word the way you do) the maximal value is limited by latitude and presence or absence of clouds and as you may know it is available ONLY during the day. Unfortunately the moon does not reflect enough the sun energy. If you build such barges all around the world it is VERY good, let us know when they are ready and mail pictures and results or give an indication where we can find FACTS (RESULTS measured by independent labs) and we will all, I am sure, congratulate you if the results are economically viable. For the time being would you please try to not use any more this site where you are UNABLE to discuss but ONLY to insults those who disagree. Why if you are a genius would you compromise with so poor minded people as we are and who are not able to feel the immense value of your work and thought ? Try to find a better site with participants who in full adoration who will bend in front of you as you expect. Good HEALTH and a good medical care! Doctor Nick (as promise for all posts with you and only with you) PS.: I am sincerely sorry since you do not recognise how ridiculous you attitude is!

More power to us, thank you very much, but we will not report anything to you, you will find out for yourself when you will see this in some technical information's. Keep on hunting us, we love it, ok. We like this "solutions" of yours, 2 civil engineers, one architect, and several others very clever intelligent people. Clean energy people from all over the world. We are ahead, not behind, ok.

kastrupsky, you should learn the English language before you write on here?

You, as well as so many other"brilliant minded" know EVERYTHING about mine and ALL of the Patent in the world during Floating Energy Barges, ok. Why are you wondering about my inventions? Answer me only this here, ok. Did YOU really KNOW ALL constructions for Floating Energy Barges, all over the world? Do you REALLY know all the inventions during Wind Power, Sun Power and ALL other patent and Innovations from all over the globe for HOW to SAVE the World from crashing totally? Do you know everything now happening all over the globe? Cool down and use your head. Doesn't matter how smart you all think you are, there is always one who is smarter than you, ok. It doesn't mean it´s me, but there are smarter guys around the globe, but they do not like to be arguing with so intelligent people like you, here in this forum. Right now, I have to deliver my 36^th Floating Energy Barge, and my 27^th Wind Mill and my 164-thousand Energy Blinds, this week. You see, my mentor 50 years back, gave to me the best word anyone could give; DO IT, and let NOBODY STOP you… My mentors name? INGVAR KAMPRAD, IKEA, and he are now one of the richest men on earth, ok. Smile boys, smile, and always try to stop those who really like to save our globe. One more question, are you doing anything for saving the globe? If yes, tell people and do something REAL.

WOW! Just copy and paste those barges! That'll git-er-done and you'll be a millionaire, er, sorry... billionaire!

If you can count your billions, you're not a trillionaire*. Pessimist!

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* Unless you're from Zimbabwe, where you count them 100 trillion at a time.

You, as well as so many other"brilliant minded" know EVERYTHING about me and ALL of the Patents in the world that are related to Floating Energy Barges, ok.

Why are you wondering about my inventions?

Answer me only this here, ok.

Did YOU really KNOW ALL of the constructions for Floating Energy Barges, all over the world?

Do you REALLY know all the inventions related to Wind Power, Sun Power and ALL of the other patent and Innovations from all over the globe?

DO YOU KNOW HOW to SAVE the World from crashing totally?

Do you know everything now happening all over the globe?

Cool down and use your head. It Doesn't matter how smart you all think you are, there is always one who is smarter than you, ok.

It doesn't mean it´s me, but there are smarter guys around the globe, but they do not like to be arguing with intelligent people like you, here in this forum.

Right now, I have to deliver my 36th Floating Imagination Barge, and my 27th Hot Air Mill and my 164-thousand Road Runner Blind, this week. You see, my mentor 50 years back, gave to me the best Advice anyone could give;

DO IT, and let NOBODY STOP you…

My mentors name? Wile E Coyote [super genius] , and he is now one of the famousest men on earth, ok.

Smile boys, smile, and always try not to stop those who really are saving our globe.

One more question, are you doing anything to save the planet?

If so, tell people and do something REAL.

Hi there

I checked out your site but didn't find any pictures of your FEB. Can you supply a link to a picture and specs?

Thanks.

Remarkable, if you click on"Floating Homes and Gardens" you will find this Floating Barges as well, and some utterly things, ok. Specs you will not have, if I show you there will be several other people who like to copy my solutions, yes. Invest in our Company and you will know how this Floating Energy Barges, FEB will work, ok. But first you have to sign our NDA, yes. PS. You will be familiar with this FEB soon enough. In the state of Colorado it will be.

Again, could you provide a specific link for a picture of your FEB. Your pictures show some houseboats and interesting/curious architectural water dwellings, but nothing labeled as a FEB. With regards to specs, there is a lot of information you can give without violating confidentiality agreements. This is, after all, an engineering website, and, if you're wanting to vet your ideas, we need specific information, not a generalized sales pitch.

Cheers.

Now we are down to the gist of the matter "Invest in my company..."

The only thing I saw on his website were mostly artists renderings and some obviously scale models, toys.

Did you not notice Castlewind?

Perhaps he can explain his relationship to the project. Nothing NDA about that one.

Here are some comments, that seem based in a study some person did.

"Australian property developers have ruled out building towers with wind turbines, after the world's first skyscraper with three rooftop turbines was unveiled in south London."

"In Australia, developers are excited about similar projects that would cut the energy consumption of commercial and residential buildings, although wind turbines do not play a part.

"We looked very seriously at wind turbines," says Brian Churchill, property portfolio manager for Local Government Superannuation (LGS) Scheme, one of Australia's big property owners."

"The publicity far outweighs the actuality in that it is not nearly as successful, simply because you don't get wind blowing all the time.

"When we did the feasibility survey in Sydney, we found that you wouldn't be producing that sort of level of power ... so the outcome didn't justify the investment."

article

Of course the publicity is only really valuable to only the first one.

The "actuality" is matching the average power consumption/m² floor area of a (square) 50 story building - the turbine diameter exceeds the building footprint and almost doubles it's height.

Yeah, I missed that. How about the one that turns sunlight and carbon dioxide into carbon monoxide and oxygen? Not sure what the purpose of that is. It's basically a poison generator though. And CO may not be a greenhouse gas but it does inhibit the destruction of other greenhouse gasses.

Jump and feeeel happy. I now have to travel to Asia and Australia, and like to say; happy success to all of you super intelligent boys here. I do hope you will meet some day, somewhere in the world, and so you could tell that you have done something, yeast something little is enough, for our earth, ok. And save your hate and bad manner, you could need it someday. And thank you very much for all of your hostility, we were growing with it. Love to ALL OTHER PEOPLE in the world who like to do something positive for our Globe.

Narcissistic_personality_disorder

And part of the problem here is this is a self occluding phenomenon. If you have it, there's not much of a chance you will know or be able to be convinced that you do.

Right on.

Tornado

You must not be on your own computer. Wherever you are, (are you kidding... Alaska?) be cool (pun intended).

After writing two or three replies to various threads this morning, I kept getting roughly this message:

You (or someone else on the network) has done this operation too many times. Please try again tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience.

I have questioned this nonsense before, clear up to CR4 #1. Never yet have I received a responsive, much less cogent, reply.

I think this is deplorable. Indeed, threads like this one threaten to degrade CR4 to the level of PESWiki or keelynet. I'm pretty sure that every competent contributor already knows this, and I am surprised at the relative lack of protest.

I see no reason for the limit on (what kind of?) posts. What "operation" are they talking about?

To be forced, as a result, to reply as "Guest"; how deplorable.

What's this all about, Admin? _{(If anyone's listening).}

34.5 has it right

we of the bath describe it as being sent to the naughty step

there is also a limit on the number of posts you can make in 24 hours to prevent spam of I think 25. this number can be changed by admin

I've taken the rare [for me] action of reporting some of the posts directed by me & the general method of posting which seems to involve making copies of one reply & posting it multiple times

I haven't complained as vigorously as I would wish in public, as OBO [our benovelont overlords] tend to object & come after me instead of the actual offender... :D

I'm sure most of us are capable of doing an accurate failure analysis of the situation

The idea with that one came out of, or to prominence from, Sir Richard's atmospheric carbon competition.

Not obvious to "greenies" is;

A. Underpinning the economics is; selling the CO as a fuel.

B. Add O, and what was collected is now back in the atmosphere.

C. 'Smoke and Mirrors' cannot change the Laws of Thermodynamics

I have to travel now to Asia and Australia, and like to say; happy success to all of you super intelligent boys here. I do hope you will meet some day, somewhere in the world, and so you could tell that you have done something, yeast something little is enough, for our earth, ok. And save your hate and bad manner, you could need it someday. And thank you very much for all of your hostility, we were growing with it. Love to ALL OTHER PEOPLE in the world who like to do something positive for our Globe.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt. But you got to show something. Pictures, numbers, something... If you have something real here, please show it or come back when you have something to show.

Otherwise it's like me claiming I have a fusion reactor the size of a beer bottle which powers my house and my neighbors house. No you can't see it or have any specs until you invest in my company which will be producing them. Minimum buy in is a mere $1 million, but order in the next 15 minutes and it is only $199,999.

I have to travel now to Asia and Australia, and like to say; happy success to all of you super intelligent boys here. I do hope you will meet some day, somewhere in the world, and so you could tell that you have done something, yeast something little is enough, for our earth, ok. And save your hate and bad manner, you could need it someday. And thank you very much for all of your hostility, we were growing with it. Love to ALL OTHER PEOPLE in the world who like to do something positive for our Globe.

I suggest you see your doctor and get back on your medication.

Well lets have your best pitch then

Including:

Requirements & costs per installation

expected output [of whatever sort]

maintainance costs

leadtime

this is all basic information, that any investor would require, nothing proprietary involved

FEB Colorado?

I have to travel now to Asia and Australia, and like to say; happy success to all of you super intelligent boys here. I do hope you will meet some day, somewhere in the world, and so you could tell that you have done something, yeast something little is enough, for our earth, ok. And save your hate and bad manner, you could need it someday. And thank you very much for all of your hostility, we were growing with it. Love to ALL OTHER PEOPLE in the world who like to do something positive for our Globe.

If that's your best pitch, I think my wallet & checkbook will be staying out of sight

I wonder how many gullible "investors" have been taken in by this ridiculous nonsense, and what recourse they might have.

The continued presence of this idiocy on CR4 is a serious black mark. I have tried to get it pulled, to no avail. I don't know if the Admins are on vacation, or just desperately clueless.

ξ

I have to travel now to Asia and Australia, and like to say; happy success to all of you super intelligent boys here. I do hope you will meet some day, somewhere in the world, and so you could tell that you have done something, yeast something little is enough, for our earth, ok. And save your hate and bad manner, you could need it someday. And thank you very much for all of your hostility, we were growing with it. Love to ALL OTHER PEOPLE in the world who like to do something positive for our Globe.

Another entry from the

Kaputsky Group

Wow, a floating chicken farm with a greenhouse on top. That's hilarious. It doesn't have to be practical, just string a bunch of words together. Wow, concrete blocks from vehicular smog, I am in awe of such genius. Electric blinds that also clean the air, but hey, if you have the blinds closed during the day you really don't need windows right? I really love madmen. In fact, I'm making a film montage of all the really crazy people I have encountered in my life. I'll have to figure out how to work this guy in.

Wow this was the most entertaining thing I've read all day! :D

Dear Professor, D. Yanagisawa, and many more, all the best from Brisbane. I like to put my words here and this so many could read and find out them self, and as well understand, as you say; "how dangerous it is to talk about your inventions right here on this pages".

As I have understood, many people here in CR4 do not dare to say something here; they are scared; they don't like to be humiliated by these youngsters "intelligentsia".

Many people have send to me private notes, some have called me by phone, most of them are afraid of these people. Some of my real friends have told me, "Leo, never give to this people some secrets during some inventions of yours, the risk is too large; they could use it for their own purpose". As you say Stone, "get out of there as soon as possible, many other people have left CR4 and many do not dare to say anything here, they read, and understand what kind of youth's this are. To support, as many of this people do, anyone who sends excrement pictures is very sick people as well".

Prof. Yanagisawa and many more, you know where to reach me. Forgive this people, let them walk on; PS. Some of this calls themselves Monkey`s; sooner or later they will find out that the world will be protected and saved by other people, who use normal speech. Thank you very much, all of you, for your support, All the best, Leo…

You haven't posted anything of any real meaning. You just made a bunch of claims with no support. This is why everyone is giving you a hard time. There is no other reason besides this.

In case anyone is interested, there don't seem to be any posts in this members portfolio that have any basis in reality

This thread from 07 is probably representative

or this

the reaction here on the forum is consistent

what is the definition of insanity again?

Perhaps that's when he learned the perils of giving, people who can think, any of his "data"?

That would be "Doing the same thing in the same way, over and over and expecting different results."

Gee, this is sort of like picking on the retarded kid out in the school yard. I am so ashamed, but... can't... stop.

Does your floating barge have room for a cast iron bathtub?

Harummphh

Royalties are due.

Take several 100 unmarked Attaboys out of petty cash

due. dew

Ah, yes, royalties droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven....

(That reminds me; the coauthor of a book I once helped write probably owes me $5.00 in royalties, or a couple beers. Gotta get on his case.)

--Ed.C.

Here is a letter that our hero wrote to Al Gore. On the Website, it is in a dopey centered format that is lost here, although the quaint spacings are preserved. I wonder if Gore replied.... (Elsewhere on the site, Gore is spelled "Goore.") There is no real content here; only crass self-promotion. Is anyone surprised?
***

Mr Al Gore 2008-02-20
USA


Dear Mr Gore,
I am writing to you in a special matter and that is about the environmental situation in the world in respect of the
energy crises.
There are more and more intensive discussions regarding different solutions how to solve the energy problems of
the Globe and Lenergy International UK Ltd has the solutions of some of the problems.


Most of the discussions today are about wind power installations but we have instead concentrated us on water
power solutions. We have been working with this development since 1999 and we have made substantial process
with investment from the founders only and we are now ready to take next big step and put the invention on the
market.


We have carefully chosen powerful and environmentally interested VIP persons, to be invited to our new
emission of shares in Lenergy International UK Ltd and that is the reason for me to write to you.
Our Investment Memorandum is ready to be sent to you including emission application form.
For more information please also look at our website www.lenergy.co.uk.


Short background for Lenergy International UK Ltd.
The company was founded in 2007. The company's
business concept is developing cost efficient and high effective environmental inventions in order to help the
energy crises in the world. These inventions are into the field of water-, wind and solar power installations
worldwide.

Leo Mac Ender, Swedish citizen and is an architect, who has been working with building
constructions all over the world.
Besides that, he has, during his whole life, invented different solutions for energy power and now he has finally
found the optimal solutions that he will distribute worldwide via
Lenergy International UK Ltd.



Lenergy International UK Ltd they are now making the biggest investment ever.
The founders own investment so far is GBP 500.000:-


So please do not miss the chance to invest in Lenergy International UK Ltd and be part of the
Worldwide rally, with the unique energy solutions, that the company provides the market with.


Best regards
Leopold Makender

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I just remembered where I've heard this sort looney rant. "Kind honorable Sir, I am contacting you concerning a sum of $100,000,000 dollars that I need to transfer to banks in your country. In exchange for this I will give you a commission of $10,000,000... blah blah blah"

I think emission of shares is a good description

Did I miss something or did he say in the beginning of the letter that they had been work on this since 1999 yet the company was only founded in 2007?

My associates are low-profile venture capitalists with considerable "seed funds" available to invest in promising technologies that tend to be overlooked in conventional, but moribund, "old" tech such as "big oil." It seems that Mr Kastrupsky's promising ideas could benefit greatly from a quiet source such as ours.

Thus it is curious that he provides no valid energy calculations or ROI projections, nor even an understandable engineering outline of his chosen approach. Instead, anyone who raises a reasonable concern is branded as stupid, and somehow beneath this self-exalted poohbah.

As for attracting investors, his approach is spectacularly incompetent, and sure to fail. We will not be investing, for instance.

ξ

I think we should all be the bigger person and just stop replying to this thread. Clearly, we are not going to teach this person any lessons and we are not helping him.

Should we be ignoring the other threads trom the same group as well?

I think we should continue the fine marketing campaign Leo has begun...

Leo has left the buiilding.

Unsobscribing

He said the same thing in 07 didn't he?

Don't know. Wasn't here then, didn't check.

I'll take another 4 years without him, then we'll see what happens.

#1

#1

The Popular Mechanics (February 1931), Floating Power Plant reference caught my interest.

Looks like the answer may be no, we shouldn't ignore him. He is either delusional or dishonest and we really have no good reason to tolerate either. He is out of place to attempt to continue participate in this forum. Hopefully he realizes his presence isn't welcome. Good riddens.

Mr Katastrupsky can you please save the world but being little less noisy? I'd be oblidged. S.M.