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Rebuilt Salvage Title

03/17/2012 11:32 PM

Hello....I have Toyota Matrix Rebuilt Title. What else I have to do if I need Toyota Matrix Clean Title. It is possible? Thank You very much.......Kamil

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03/17/2012 11:59 PM

What do you mean by " clean title"? A clean title means there is no outstanding dept on the car..(no liens)...I would contact your local dept of motor vehicles for requirements to title salvaged vehicle....What country are you in?

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03/18/2012 12:32 AM

I suspect that the OP wants to "Clean" his title by removing the words "Rebuilt or Salvage" from it. The only way to do that is illegal since it would involve forging the document. You bought it that way now you're trying to sell it to some unsuspecting buyer, I hope that you're NOT an engineer, now go crawl back under the rock that you came from. We do not condone criminal behavior here.

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03/18/2012 2:07 AM

Uh ho....

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03/18/2012 9:15 AM

I'm with RAMConsult here. Once a salvage title, always a salvage title.

Alteration of a legal document such as a title would be a crime in the USA, even in lawless Arizona, where our sheriffs can't tell a legal document from toilet paper.

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03/19/2012 10:53 AM

From a Okla. view there is always a way around a title some legal and some not. But the best is to, when you chose to rebuild a salvaged vehicle, car, boat, motor, is to buy another and use your salvagable parts to 'refurbish' the second and sell it as such..Everyone is honest and above board. Kind of like doing business. You have a 'clean' title and a good satisfied customer...

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04/16/2012 2:50 PM

No, not "once salvage always salvage"

Not so in WA State and that came to me directly from the DoL.

that is, if you are in the US.

Your State/Country may be different. Its about law, not opinions.

It can be made "not salvage" by repairing it to the extent it is like new.

"Salvage" implies that the Insurance Company and State agree its unsafe to drive or not repairable, or too expensive to repair. Usually something like a bent/broken frame or multiple damage that exceeds 2/3rds of the vehicles value. So its basically pointless.

Problem with newer vehicles is that their frames are not repairable, once bent, they are junk, since they are not made of I beams and thick sections of steel, they are made from stamped tin foil with structural shapes that give the frame strength. The frame can be damaged and you cant see it.

Beware of fraudulent sellers (if youre looking to buy) that pretend they have rebuilt a salvaged car for "a couple hundred dollars" because they are lying.

I saw a salvaged Corvette on Craigslist two years ago, the owner was lying about "I replacd a hood and its good as new"

If it was that easy, it wouldnt have a salvage title, now would it?

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Sorry Dave, It appears that we have read different parts of the WAC (Washington Administrative Code). The WAC does not allow a vehicle with a title that has been branded as "Salvage" to ever be put back in service. It does allow a "Salvage" vehicle to be rebuilt and titled as "WA Rebuilt" as long as it can pass a State Police safety inspection and meets certain age and market-value criteria. Failure to disclose that the vehicle was rebuilt from a salvage car and/or its parts is fraud.

From the WA Dept. of Licensing (DOL):

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/salvaged.html

"Frequently asked questions

Can a vehicle that is declared salvage still be legally driven?

No. The vehicle can't legally be driven or parked on public highways or roads until a new title has been issued."

"Will I receive a rebuilt brand on the car?

If a Certificate of Ownership (title) is being reissued on the car, it may be branded as "WA REBUILT" if it:

  • Is 5 years old or newer.
  • or
  • Meets the "market value threshold" criteria."

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/fraud.html

"Title brands

A title brand is an official record of damage or other information about a vehicle that could affect its value or the ability to operate it safely. For example, a "rebuilt" title brand means the vehicle has suffered enough damage to be declared a total loss by an insurance company and then was rebuilt. A title brand remains on record for the life of the vehicle."

The strange part about the WA codes is that they don't seem to specify what happens if it doesn't meet the age and/or market value threshold criteria. I agree of course that the laws vary by state, and anybody who chooses to act as their own lawyer (or uses the advice of forums like this for anything other than educational purposes only) should be reminded that they have a fool for a client.

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