Are Electric Vehicles Too Quiet?

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Wangito.

I think what they are really trying to do is for the blind. We have tried to help the people with this handicap be a productive part of society. The freedom to walk our streets and go where they wish is part of it. So they can't follow your advice.

What puzzles me is most of these suggestion for noise makers on electric vehicles are coming from the seeing. Have they even asked the blind if it is a problem. The blind are very in tune with their hearing. They may not need as loud of a device that is proposed. Then it is only needed when the vehicle is at rest at a stop.

As to your advice for the seeing it is very good advice. But most people have become accustom to the sounds that the motor makes. They use both senses to warn them of traffic when crossing the street. I do not think what ever sound they chose will do any good as it will be different then the noise of the motor.

Many new cars are so quiet that the only real noise you hear is tire noise, so the problem, if it is one, already exists.

Electric vehicles are really no quieter than the cars I cited.

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That's great news. I shall work on my flesh and bone detector (possibly heat sensor) and make them compulsory to all silent cars (killers). Just one at each corner relayed over digital signals to the brakes and accelerator which should bring the car to an instant stop, at least at lower speeds. Instant override by entering a 17 digit # into the inboard computer and off Ya go. Or maybe just a friendly beep of the horn to get going again. Early stages and my workshop needs a once over before I get to it.

I'll issue shares in the company by next Monday. Gotta go, Ky.

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Horn?

Hmmm thinking that might wake them up...

Pedestrians should be required to have an implant that activates an electric shock when approached by a silent car. The only way to deactivate the micro chip would be to walk in pedestrian zones only. The micro chip could have other functions as legislation changes and more important issues could be dealt with in the same human manner.

Maybe they could be implanted in the car which would stop or avoid any flesh and bone hitting metal thing automatically................... I'm out of here, Ky.

Why do you think many motorcycle drivers have loud pipes? Certainly not to protect them from pedestrians. Just a thought.

To be obnoxious.

Keep electric cars off the sidewalk

And keep walkers, joggers, cyclists, and all other idiots off the roads!

Stupid people dictated that people have the right of way however all other examples in nature show that that which is bigger, faster, smarter, or more likely to harm or kill you has the right of way!

I am really really really starting to miss how natural selection played its part in life.

I am really really really starting to miss how natural selection played its part in life.

It's only a theory but it's real twin is common sense which may explain the walking bridge seen in Fargo crossing the I-94 for example. In many locations a portion of the retail or commercial district is restricted to pedestrian traffic only; what a concept from a safety stand point eliminate the threat.

Other than designated crossings the places people have the right of way are few; California go-figure LOL

Other than designated crossings the places people have the right of way are few.

Care to wager your life's worth on running the next dumb-ass over who runs across the road in front of you even though he is not in a specified crossing zone? I bet the courts will see it differently as to who had the legal right of way and who responsible for him getting run over!

The law may have changed since I moved out of ND but at the time pedestrians were to yield to vehicular traffic even when using a designated crossing.

I guess I'm one of those D-A-s who will cross at any point if I don't think there's anyone near enough, moving fast enough to hit me. I'm baffled about how to keep animals from being killed, though. Some animals, of course, are just slow moving and you really have to look out for them. It's the fast ones whose behaviors are so inexplicable.

It's happened to me more than once, that I've slowed way down for deer I could see ahead (broad daylight - I don't have an electric car) and they will still walk or run into the fenders. They were unhurt and the car was undamaged because I was going so slowly, but I don't understand how an animal with excellent eyesight and hearing, that has evolved to run from danger, will run into it. I've had deer and squirrels cross the road ahead and then turn around and run right back in front of the car. I've had a rabbit, doing its zig-zag avoidance response, run back toward the car and bounce off the hubcap - bruised but not killed because I had slowed to 5 MPH since I couldn't tell where it was going.

Animals do sense intent and tension. If you're calm and moving slowly and are not tightly focusing on them - lots of times they don't mind your presence. They'll sometimes exhibit curiosity about you, in fact. Possibly animals can't "read" a vehicle's "intention" because the human is sealed off from them? Certainly the emotional field is highly important in communication. Come to work all wired and tense and even if you don't say anything, people behave differently around you; same for if you're all happy and joking.

Maybe electric cars don't need noise makers. Maybe they need to emote with a predator's hunting intention. Don't ask me how to get steel and plastic to do that. Maybe in driver's ed classes of the new age, students will be taught to expand their auras to 50 ft. or more - I wonder what that would do for road rage. You could flip your middle finger at the third eye telepathically.

You're acting timidly why would you expect them to respond to a danger??

You can try being timid but with coyote urine under the license plate then watch them run as slowly cruise by. A note of caution if animals don't disperse when a predators scent is present you may not want to try and pet them.

Deer do not have excellent eyesight.

True but they can hear a flatulent flea at fifty paces

Should one not consider intelligence, which they miss, to get their head around the concept "car, strange things, they kill and maim us but don't eat us" sort of a thing. They are just to stupid to get their heads around it, that's all there is to it, me thinks, Ky.

So who's on the Highway by right, and who's there by license?

Make a law requiring electric car owners to turn the stereo way up and roll the windows down. Safety trumps everything, right?

Explain too quiet, I like quiet of course I could apply those antiquated curb feelers towards the pavement nah... quiet, imagine Manhattan quiet...ahhh!! Then we could be proud.

Electric cars do have mechanical components which is supposed produce some sound.

The electric induction also produces some hum.... sound.

The over all engine noise is lowest compared ti IC Engines.

Tyre frictions are bound to be common.

Most of the traffic is on two/ four track lanes - the low noise should not be a problem.

Pedestrian paths should be made statuary including crossing points. The worst problem is about crossing the roads, mainly for the kids, ladies and elders amid st rushing traffics.

Traffic population got some thing to done about, otherwise pedestrians will suffer a lot.

The deciBel rating, volume regulations harmful; nature of horns are to be designed with concern. We are being slow poisoned by our own made mess.

More noise sure can be counterproductive. In the mining industry there are so many beepers you have to learn to ignore them. Varying levels of loudness at the source confuse distance perception.

It is also valid that quiet vehicles driven quietly seem to encourage mindless wanderers to inhabit the road. Drop 2 or 3 gears and suddenly they become attentive.

Maybe the speaker needs to play a Ferrarri Formula 1 in full cry.

Also consider -

- Noisey vehicles are noisey day or night, when somebody is trying to sleep.

- A noisey motorcycle (in the country) can be heard a mile away, this defeats the noise makers on all other vehicles and certainly does not help emergency vehicles.

- A noisey car, pickup truck, semi-truck, or motorcycle can drown the noise of the other vehicles on the street.

Any noise required must be relative to the ambient noise level, i.e. if in a quiet town with ambient background noise of 40db a 110db back-up alarm or motorcycle exhaust is not necessary to warn the deaf or blind. One wouldn't hear where the gunshot came from, now would you ?

In-between buildings a sound can be amplified 30db, which makes it really deafening.

Hmmmm.....Bladerunner? The FX used there would be attention getting....

Thats silly. We for years have had to build noise barriers around Highways. Now we won't have as much noise pollution. Let people get use to the quietness of the electric cars. It will happen quik.

Most of the noise you hear is tire noise. So nothing is going to change much.

Electric vehicles should make some noise but not alot. Quieter is nicer.

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