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Will Wireless Save Public Safety?

Posted September 22, 2010 7:54 AM

Nine years after 9/11 and five years since Hurricane Katrina, the country's first responders are still dealing with inadequate communication systems. Now, public safety groups, with the backing of some members of Congress, are arguing that they need control over a larger chunk of the broadband spectrum to ensure adequate network capacity during emergencies. Some officials disagree, saying that the best way to pay for and build a robust, affordable communications system is to auction some of the airwaves to commercial companies that can build a network and make it available to public safety agencies during an emergency. What do you think?

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09/22/2010 8:13 AM

Wireless stinks.
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09/22/2010 10:15 AM

If by wireless you mean 'radio' the problem was/is not inadequate spectrum but coordination between the different agencies. There was no central coordination between them so the left hand didn't know what the right one was doing or needed.

There were not enough mobile central command centers to sort through all the traffic.

And when the cell/landline infrastructure is damaged often the only way information gets in and out of a devastated area is through local amateur radio operators who are equipped for this.

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09/23/2010 1:39 AM

In 1973 there was a terrible flood in North-Eastern Hungary. It damaged almost the whole communication infrastructure. That time we provided a HAM radio network for weeks in order to support the rescue teams.

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09/23/2010 3:27 AM

Seems like I was wrong in #1 .
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09/23/2010 10:45 AM

I remember handling a ton of traffic out of Lubbock, Texas in 1970 after an F5 took half the city out. Fortunately hams were only used to relay good news like "We're all Ok" and "I made it to Dallas, don't worry". The bad news was handled by the Red Cross and MARS. Ran up quite a phone bill but the recipients were very, very grateful.

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09/23/2010 4:25 PM

MARS is another resource I remember fondly- when I was operating the SSB rig in Viet Nam, I was able to get my hands on the appropriate crystals, and was making phone calls for my buddies back to the States. Needless to say, I was a local hero among my fellow troops...

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09/23/2010 4:29 AM

Is it still true that the various branches of the US military cannot communicate with each other in the field?

It is not the technology that determines the efficacy of your response activities, but, rather, the implementation and execution of whatever system one uses. If the police cannot communicate with the fire department which can not communicate with the National Guard which cannot communicate with federal coordinators (OK, maybe we don't need to worry about that last one for first responders), no amount of increased bandwidth or spectrum is going to fix the problem. HAM operators have been the key to establishing the first communications links in disasters almost since Marconi did his first trans-Atlantic transmission...

Unfortunately, I have never been able to pass the Morse Code test, so I can not contribute directly to this particular critical resource, but it deserves the full support of all of us. Our lives could depend on it...

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09/23/2010 4:35 AM

A quote from the Falklands conflict.
"All this fancy equipment and when the shit hits the fan, you can't get a message across the bay" (I think he said 'fancy')

They resorted to using runners.
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09/23/2010 10:34 AM

Morse code is no longer a requirement, see http://www.arrl.org/.

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09/23/2010 4:23 PM

I am aware Morse Code is no longer a requirement, but by the time they changed the rules, I had lost all the knowledge I once had that is needed to pass the written exam...I still like to listen occasionally to HAM's on short wave. I still use my ancient Amateur Radio Operator's Handbook (so old it still has plans for tube radios)- Seems like most HAM's have gotten away from building their own rigs these days...

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10/04/2010 11:42 AM

Morse Code is no longer required for any class of Amateur Radio license. You should go for it!

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09/23/2010 9:20 AM

Communication problems are present in every level of government, or semi government.

Here is a simple example. There is a 2 car accident on a street. The drivers both have cell phones. Both call 911. But because each of the drivers live in different areas of the same city, the 911 calls get routed to different call response dispatchers. But it is still at the same street location. But every municipality has a boundary. and some times it is the middle of the road, and some times it is the midpoint in a row of buildings that are back to back, facing away from each other. So if the 2 cars in the accident are on, or near the dividing line, there can be 2 different departments going to the accident. And depending on how medical transport is done in that area, possibly a third department to transport anyone injured. There will need someone from law enforcement also. That could also be 2 additional departments. A disabled vehicle that is in a public roadway needs to be towed away. That will require a tow truck that is brought by the law enforcement department.

Each of these responding vehicles can be on different radio frequencies. Some times on so different a frequency that there needs to be a different radio to be able to change to that frequency. To add to the confusion, todays larger departments use a trunking system so that many radio users in the same department can share individual radio frequencies, without having to pay foe a separate frequency for each different group. And yet if there was one radio frequency for all of the above dispatched vehicles to be on, there would be just too many vehicles on the same frequency for efficient communication. Just too many people trying to use the radio at the same time. There is a move about to go to a more standardized radio frequency system to allow departments their own individual frequency, but yet be able to easily switch to a system of mutual aid frequencies so that all parties responding to an incident could switch to a separate tactical frequency for that incident.

The problem with that is that different departments have drastically different radio frequencies. And for two or more agencies to communicate, they must all be on the same frequency.So everyone but one agency must replace all of the expensive radio equipment they currently have.

The latest radios from Motorola have the ability to operate on 2 different "bands" Through attrition more of these radios will get in the field, and mutual department communication will improve.

There are some patching abilities available, but for now that seems to only be at the dispatch level.

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09/23/2010 10:52 AM

Exactly. Now multiply that scenario by 1000x to get an idea of what 9/11 was like in NYC.

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09/23/2010 7:45 PM

The goal in emergency services is 1 portable radio per person. That put around 2,000 radios all trying to transmit at once. More than 10-15 people on a channel during a working incident starts to jam up communications. If the WTC was broken down into 10 separate sectors per building, it was still way too many people trying to communicate on too few frequencies.

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09/23/2010 10:57 PM

sad thing is, most of these problems have already been solved in other technology areas, such as Ethernet messaging protocols and Operating System Message Handling...

What is required (imho) is a new kind of Emergency Communications Management System. First thing is a Message-Queue, (within each radio unit) which converts, digitally encodes, and stores audio messages, and then listens to the radio network, and submits the messages when the line is clear (in microsecond data bursts) You would be able to speak into the radio, after selecting a record mode, and give your message verbally. This would be converted to digital, and then put in the network queue, by switching to 'transmit' mode'. Receiving messages would be a third mode, which can receive and translate text and audio.. (the text mode ensures clear communications from hq.)

Then you have a Central Message Manager, (at the HQ, which converts the messages to text, and creates a time-stamped list of messages., The human managers would be creating Tasks and have a a list of resources (people, equipment, vehicles, etc.) which can be assigned to a given task operation. Messages from the field would also be assigned to a given operation to which they pertain, if possible. Operators at the HQ would be able to transmit digitally to specific units or groups, and receive confirmation that the message was recieved by that unit.. and maintain a continuous task based situational awareness.

By having all messages encoded digitally, and transmitted via an Ethernet style protocol, you eliminate 90% or more of the traffic, and increase the reliability and comprehension of the messages, while adding only slight changes to methodology of radio transmission. Now that people have become familiar with cell phone texting, this would not present much of a training hurdle, as the system would be similar. (but faster, as input is audio, and output is either.)

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very insightful bob. ga.

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09/23/2010 4:11 PM

Motorola has been producing multiband hand-held HAM radios for years...

When I was serving in Viet Nam, one of the radio stations I operated utilized commercial HAM equipment, because it was the only equipment available for single sideband operation. HAM's have the technological edge...

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09/23/2010 7:35 PM

http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-Way+Radios+-+Public+Safety/Digital+Mobile+Radios/APX+7500_US-EN

This is the radio that Motorola is pushing lately. I think the P25 is the upcoming interoperability function.

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10/04/2010 4:24 PM

So auction off the airwaves to commercial companies so that they can resell it to the local municipalities at an inflated perpetual charge? No way! There would be no way to raise enough taxes to pay the commercial companies, especially after we're held hostage for any upgrades.

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