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How To Turn Your FJ Inside-Out

Posted December 09, 2011 9:00 AM by CarDomain
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This is apparently what can happen when you hit the power window switch while you've got a leaking acetylene tank on board. Ka-blammo! The driver, whose astonishing incident was republished on the ColoradoK5 forum, is indeed lucky to be alive.

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12/09/2011 9:36 AM

Bah! That one could have been saved for one of those long-lost Friday Afternoon Picture Quizzes.

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12/09/2011 2:24 PM

As someone who works around acetylene on a regular basis I can assure you that the smell is generally over powering long before its reaches the point of combustion.

I just cant see how someone could not notice a tank leaking that bad long before it got to that point or if the leaking tank was possibly even put in the vehical knowingly.

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12/09/2011 4:02 PM

Right on, in addition to the smell of acetylene, I smell insurance fraud.

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12/09/2011 11:01 PM

rubbish . they guy wouldnt be sitting in his own car if he thought it was going to blow up

he probably put the cylinder inside without it being tied down , it rolled around inside and then the valve opened up

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12/10/2011 4:56 AM

GA

An idiot with no sense of smell?

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12/11/2011 7:30 PM

Sometimes our sense of smell can become deadened quite quickly, if their is a high concentration of the gas and it happens quickly you get the smell then your sense of smell is overpowered very quickly. This happens with hydrogen sulphide hence one of the reasons you need gas monitors when dealing with it. I would suspect the same can happen with Acetylene.

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12/10/2011 12:36 AM

Nice to see that the airbag deployed.

The comments in the article suggested safety measures such as a bottle cap might have prevented unintentional opening of the bottle valve but why would you transport flammable gases inside a cab in the first place?

Should have been in the back of a ute.

Sometimes you have to transport inside but then why not open the window a bit before setting off or have the climate control set to recirc?

Really made a mess of the interior. No signs of scorching though....Odd.

The featured car will be fixed and rolling around my local roads pretty soon I reckon. Straight chassis, no problem. Have you ever wondered where US insurance write offs end up?

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12/10/2011 2:50 PM

State Farm has a track record of retitling totaled autos and reselling them without full disclosure. Alabama is one of their favorite states to reissue the titles due to lax accountability. The feds caught them laundering hundreds of totaled Katrina cars through there and State Farm's excuse was that it was a "clerical error".

I'm sure they aren't the only company involved in this practice, but one of the more notorious of offenders. Like a good neighbor...

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12/10/2011 2:57 AM

Oooh--carbide cannonball!

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12/10/2011 8:48 AM

Being raised around welding bottles it was always a known fact that they were not hauled in closed space due to the expansion of pressure caused by heat. I did in my later years hauled Propane 100 lb. bottles in my van and always told the non-driver if they blew off and I stopped to get out and walk away. And no smoking..Filled one in the morning and hauled it through the afternoon, luckly it was on a trailer when it went off.We live and learn sometimes we don't live, but the lesson is still the same..

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12/10/2011 12:04 PM

About three years ago, i saw a photo of a double-cab LDV that had a similar incident. The guy put his small oxy-acetylene set inside the cab when he went home on the Friday (it is guaranteed to be stolen off the back!). Apparently, there was a slight leak on the acetylene cylinder. When he opened the door on the Monday morning, some small spark, probably on the door switch (?), caused the gas inside to explode. He did not make it, killed instantly. I rather doubt that the gent in the picture was inside the vehicle when it happened. If he survived somehow, he would probably at least be deaf. Lessons to be learnt all round.

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12/10/2011 4:45 PM

Well it certainly isn't any uglier than it was before it got 'peeled'.

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12/12/2011 6:23 AM

another one today in Australia . deceased.

cant get the link to work sorry

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8388226/man-critically-injured-in-van-explosion

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12/12/2011 3:34 PM

Acetylene is explosive in air throughout a concentration range of 2.5-80%.

By contrast, propane is explosive in air in concentrations ranging from 2.15-9.5%, a much narrower range.

Natural gas has an odorant (mercaptan) added to alert people to the danger of leaking gas. The following link leads to the story behind the addition of mercaptan.

http://www.txchnologist.com/2011/the-take-o-captain-mercaptan/new_london_tx_school_before_explosion_a

I went to high school in the building re-built on the same site.

I'm not sure if mercaptan is added to propane, but I'm pretty sure it isn't added to acetylene.

It takes very little acetylene to be bad news in a closed area.

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12/27/2011 8:48 AM

Its added to acetylene. I'm not a professional welder..but I've used oxy/acetylene welders enough over the years to guarantee you that even with the tiny ammount that gets out before you can get it lit, the smell is very noticible.

In the USA anyway....and Italy. Those are the only two countries I've used it in. I have no reason to suspect its not true in most if not all others.

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12/14/2011 5:52 PM

No way the guy was in it when it went off. look at the last picture in the story. the drivers door had to have been open or it would be damage from the area just behind it expanding. it is tied shut for transport. no way it was closed when it went off. I think some form of fraud is involved here.

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12/14/2011 6:00 PM

sorry to contradict your belief but have you maybe considered that the guy opened the drivers door and the door switch caused a spark which triggered the explosion ?

out of the cases i have seen in australia at least 8 were triggered when they opened the vehicle door.

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12/14/2011 6:25 PM

the coloradok5 link has him saying he drove the FJ out of the garage and hit the window down button. In retrospect he may have been driving with the door open but I still find it hard to believe he was in the vehicle. The first time I read it, I thought it just said he was driving it. Either way a lucky guy to be talking abou tit.

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