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What Can Be Done After Graduating From Biomedical Engineering Major?

07/12/2016 1:53 PM

Firstly , I need to indicate that I studied my undergrad major in one of the average universities in Turkey as a biomedical engineer. The education of my university was just mediocre that I don't feel like I had learned so much thing, therefore I don't have any self-confidence about my topic. By the way I am not sure if I would like to be an biomedical engineer or not ...

Ps: I have checked the whole job advertisement sites in my country, Unfortunately there are not so muck advertisement for biomedical engineers. So there are not so much job opportunity for me, I guess...

so please answer question that I am going to ask while keep my background above in your minds :

What should I do right now ? Is it possible to change my direction with special programs or master/graduate programs. I thought that, maybe I can pursue my carrier as an industrial engineer or mechanical engineer or just as a management.

But I am also not sure if it is possible to study different major as a graduate/master program than your grad major.

I need help guys. I feel very complicated and miserable. I am looking for some advice about my carrier or different scenarios about what can I do.

I am looking for some universities in Europe or Canada.

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07/12/2016 2:29 PM

You don't think you got a good education, you don't know what you want to be and you want advice from this forum?

The forum knows nothing about you, except that you know nothing about yourself.

How can anyone advise you, knowing nothing about you.

I suggest that you sit down and write all your accomplishments on paper, list your educational background and then list any jobs, work, internships you have completed and then search your soul and try to determine a course of action.

You sound like someone who has lead a sheltered life and had their decisions made for them.

It's time to think for yourself and decide what to do with your life.

Use the internet to find what sounds interesting to you and get on with your life.

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07/12/2016 3:15 PM

Unlike Lyn I can totally relate to how you feel and to be honest, sadly, the majority of people who come out of most standard issue colleges feel very similar to you.

I know after I went back to college a second time for an Electrical Engineering Degree after having had a number of years of real life work experience I came out feeling exactly like you.

I had a total bewilderment at what I just spent several years and several tens of thousands of dollars of my life on that had near zero practical relation let alone workable application to the field of work I was after related to.

I would recommend you do as I did and take the whole experience as a hard learning lesson and move on. Look for work in an area you find interesting and build on that through actual hands-on work experience. It's what I and countless others have had to do after our less than fulfilling college experiences.

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07/12/2016 4:15 PM

And TCMtech forgot to mention he is possibly the world expert on burning tires.

If I had a biomedical engineering degree, and there was not even one area that gave me a spark of further interest, I would find some other field. Do not enter the field if it does not bring you joy every morning, and you cannot find happiness in doing the day to day tasks appropriate for such a field. Why did you select this in the first place?

Did you think to help people who are suffering? Good. Did you think, wow, this is a lucrative field, and I want to gulp up all the money that is out there, then not so good, but maybe salvageable.

Why do you limit yourself to your home country? Quite a few engineers manage to find work (when sufficiently educated) in other countries, and may find actual happiness in such places. Turkey is a good country, and have needy people who suffer, just as do all other nations. Help them.

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07/12/2016 6:23 PM

"And TCMtech forgot to mention he is possibly the world expert on burning tires."

Well, it is a passion of mine and it was very much a part of designing a boiler with a smart control system that could burn most anything I put in it.

It may not have ever lead to world-changing discoveries or anything else but it did lead to me saving a few tens of thousands of dollars on heating costs over the last 15 years which itself equated to not having to have to work at some crappy job I hated to pay for fuel all that time.

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07/13/2016 7:22 AM

And TCMtech forgot to mention he is possibly the world expert on burning tires.

Burning tires gives everything, that certain.... ambiance,... even marshmallows.

Who brought the marshmallows?

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07/12/2016 4:06 PM

Get a job in a wooden-leg factory.

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07/12/2016 4:15 PM

I was thinking of more of the modern day Dr. Frankenstien route.

'Build a buddy' type home based research work.

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07/12/2016 4:19 PM

You silly poop! That sort of endeavor might lead to learning why the shicken crossed the toad.

OP should now go serve in Turkey's military, learn ergonomics, and help in the quest to prevent battlefield fatigue. Go study the ways of the ant, young student. Then go study the ways of the Japanese Samurai warriors. Surely, there is wheat to be gleaned from the fields of learning, analysis, introspection, and prototyping. Learning without doing is of no use. Doing without planning and learning from experience is also useless.

Surely you can put the two together and realize a missing opportunity no one has thought of up to now, or if not, then simply do it better than the previous guy.

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07/12/2016 4:19 PM

Start by deciding what kind of work you want to do. If you enjoyed courses in other branches of engineering, investigate the kinds of jobs that would be available if you earn a degree in, say, mechanical engineering. Go talk to people who are working in jobs that you think look interesting, and then decide if you would like working in that kind of job. Do not make the mistake of rushing into another degree program until you are confident that you will be able to get a job when you graduate. And that you will like the job.

One of our CR4 bloggers has a degree in biomedical engineering, but she decided before she graduated that she did not want to work as a biomedical engineer. She took some technical writing and general management courses so that when she graduated she was qualified to be a technical writer. You can always use the knowledge you acquired in school; you figure out a different way to use it. Good luck!

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07/12/2016 4:20 PM

Education is what you make of it.

My first degree was an associate degree and a Technical College. I was also embarrassed about it. I had a 3.95 GPA, thought I could have done better so I also thought it did not come through for me also. Until I started working in my field. My 3.95 GPA, I had been taken a heavy course load that was applied to another degree.

Look back and ask yourself, did you learn the fundamentals? can you possible applied them? did you enjoy what you learned?, etc.... take an assessment of your skill-set.

When going on an interview, you'll still be humble, but show the drive.

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07/12/2016 5:52 PM

A lot of this has to do with your personality type, which we know nothing of....I can tell you that working in a field you don't necessarily like that much, is a great discipline builder, which is an important factor in any endeavor....building your character is as important as finding your niche...any job can be good, or bad, depending on the environment and day to day duties you're involved in....So I wouldn't focus so much on what you're going to do, just start doing something, and strive to do it as well as you can....If inspiration comes to you at some time in the future, you can always make a lateral move, or go back to school....but sitting around wringing your hands about what to do, is just wasting time and energy...

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07/12/2016 7:53 PM

First of all, ask yourself what kind of work you would choose to work at, if you were independently wealthy, and did not have to work at all...

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07/28/2016 8:15 PM

You seem to lack a certain (effective perspective). There is at least one organization that specializes in (enhancing clarity), but you have to go to their Office, in Paris, France. If you do go, ask for the Foreign Legion... I'm confident they would be glad to try to (help)...

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07/12/2016 8:55 PM

I'm quite skeptical that moving to a different country or school is as critical as you think. we have a saying here about "the grass is always greener on the other side".you'll have to forgive my frankness. you sound like a quitter who expects strangers online to guide your life's biggest decisions. if you were a job recruiter and you read this thread would you be compelled to invest in this person?you need to have value! a degree is often just a step into the door, once there you need to earn your keep. look at TMC tech, he can answer ads for several things involving oilfield work, his skills might not impress you but to the right employer he can do multiple tasks that a company needs, make yourself more than single dimensional.remember that you'll never start at the top. take ANY job for now and do a knockout job. it might be the thing on a future resume that gives you the nod over someone else competing for the same position.

I wouldn't mention a prowess @ tire burning, they might be part of the carbon police and want to string you up

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07/13/2016 5:33 AM

I studied engineering many years ago at a good university. I managed to get a job and whilst I knew something I had a huge number of holes in my education. I've realised that universities don't really teach, they lecture and you have to pick up what you can. This is OK but really you need it the other way round; some practical knowledge first and then all the theory of a university. I am now fairly good at what I would do (I would say) but this comes after working for many years and finding out how what I learned at university applies in the real world.

So I would approach things differently to others. First, I'd try and get a job in some field related to biochemistry. Then apply what you have learned and try to become useful to the company. Then improve your skills from what you now know is needed by the company you are working for. Then after maybe a year or so decide whether you want to work in biochemistry.

I think you did well to ask for advice. I saw some harsh criticism from people who didn't know you. I don't think it is very clever of those people to be so critical.

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07/13/2016 6:32 AM

I had a hard time earning a degree in electrical engineering. I worked for three years in between. That was very good because it really taught me why I was studying - I knew nothing!

I still didn't know much when I finally emerged. All engineers know nothing when they emerge. But university taught me to think. And only that really. I claim that the only thing I know is how to read manuals. Teach a man to fish...

I started off working in a design lab of a Telco and loved it. But then they gave me the first personal computer (HP9100) and I fell in love. So that's what I still do, and still love it.

I still play with electronics, but the computer is a broader canvas.

My point in telling all this is that you go to university to train your brain - it doesn't matter what in. After that, try anything until you find what you love to do. But you have learned to think and that always applies to anything and any job.

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07/14/2016 1:54 PM

Allow me to back up his story, with a similar one. After getting the BSEE at a school that was only there for research at the time, not teaching new engineers, I was hired as a draftsman/designer for lighting and signal systems in hospital additions to meet new code requirements. Absolutely totally unlike any course I took in EE as I was primarily into semiconductors. But, as pointed out, once you've been college trained, you know how to think. Kept that job until a construction downturn, then went back to school to get some physics to verify what I had learned how to use in EE. (EE use the equations - physicists develop them) Wife became pregnant so back to work after 2 years of physics. Hired as an oil well analyst. Remember - engineers are trainable at ANYTHING technical. Did that until the oil downturn in the late 1980's, then got hired as electrical maintenance at a machine shop, based on my first engineering job. About the mid 1990's they decided to try building PLC controlled process skids and I became their primary controls designer, and still am. Finally - made it as an EE. All the previous job experience has been very helpful.

So go out there and find a technical job in any field and start your future.

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07/13/2016 6:47 AM

Firstly, be proud that you've achieved this outcome and can recognise the shortcomings of the education that was available. This really means that you do know your stuff.

Biomed Engineering opens many possibilities for you, depending on the organisation structures over there.

From your humble personal introduction, it is obvious that you would not consider servicing the heart pacemaker industry, but what about working for service providers at hospitals.

Consider the following:

  • Apply to become a technician for a cardio-vascular clinic, assisting with exercise stress testing.
  • Rehabilitation hospital, assisting the physiotherapists.
  • Designing and assembling prosthetics.
  • Move into labour intensive manufacturing industry where your skills can be used in workplace/workstation layout for ergonomic efficiency.
  • Get with an architect and specialise in house layout and design for kitchens and washrooms and other "busy" locations.

You have a skill set that is usefull to many if it can be realised the potential.

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07/13/2016 8:43 AM

I have an Mechanical Engineering degree and have worked in several manufacturing industries including building materials, food and beverage, and pharmaceuticals. I currently manage a co-op working toward a biomedical engineering degree. I would highly suggest taking a look at jobs in the pharmaceutical industry. There is a broad range of jobs including sales and marketing, research and development, process engineering, manufacturing engineering, reliability engineering, quality control, etc. Look for a company that is willing to develop you through several of these areas to get an idea of what you ultimately want to do. In pharmaceuticals, you will be making a difference for many people every day. Don't worry so much about your degree and how much it applies, worry about your problem solving ability and your drive to succeed. Those are the qualities that will set you apart. Good luck!

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07/14/2016 1:10 AM

No matter what you do in whatever field you find yourself in, I would tell you too be as Computer Literate as possible. My son -in-law, to be, graduated in Molecular Cheimstry and Biology.. He is now doing DNA modeling for diseases, trying to eliminate the thousands of clinical trials necessary, over years , to achieve the same results. This will reduce the Trial times from tens of years to years, . One of the reasons is that the data base is expanding across all countries, and one has the ability to see what has worked or not, in hundreds or thousands of different or similar trials, if it be drug therapies, nutritionial therapies , stem cells or whatever. The speed of particle flow is essential, in reducing costs and efficiency. Figure out a way to be more efficient, and you will be in demand.

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07/14/2016 4:27 AM

If one pursues something for which one has a passion, then one never has to do a day's work in one's life.

There is no suggestion of passion in the original post, which identifies the problem.

Ever heard of The Supervet?

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07/14/2016 9:39 AM

We do not have any idea what subjects/courses were covered in your studies?

For you to find out what job you can effectively do utilizing whatever knowledge gained in your studies, you can look/ search for an apprentice position....in any field that are readily available in your country!

If you decide to come Here in the U.S., a lot of different options are available to improve yourself....

1) you can apply and work as a trainee/ intern in hospitals or industires using your school background. Working as research lab technicians, or engineer trainee in medical equipment manufacturers as examples..

2) And while working, you may also continue and further your studies on a work-study programs that are available too...

Options that are readily available here, which are limited only by you and your efforts/ initiative!

The above were actual situations, experienced by some of my former staff..Those who migrated from UK, Turkey, Jordan and India... started as an entry level Biomed technicians or as Clinical engineers..

With a tuition reimbursement program, Some continued to further their studies while working in my dept.,.. Earned their MS, PhDs, PEs, with one now a practicing MD!

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07/14/2016 10:55 AM

I graduated in Manufacturing Engineering, got three graduate degrees in Nuclear Engineering, Environmental Science and Management in Science and Technology. I certified as a Registered Professional Engineer, Lead Quality Systems Auditor and Certified Six Sigma Black Belt.

My main hobbies are machining, woodworking and clockmaking. Basically mechanical engineering stuff.

I was told at one time not to make your main hobby into a business, because it will lead you to hate being forced to do your hobby all the time whether you want to or not, although the advice came from one person who decorative painted and one who made ceramics. Part of it was being forced to produce to order a piece of work you really despise.

During my career, I was a paperboy, stockboy at a market, stock photographer for an importer, worked cleanup crew in a frozen food plant, made and sold sterling silver jewelry, did two stints in a foundry as labor and as a technician, spent five years as an engineer in the Navy, became a tooling design engineer, worked as a product design engineer, did four years as a lead quality assurance auditor for Trojan Nuclear plant, Designed and field tested landscaping equipment, designed waste fired boilers and now design radiant floor heating systems and manufacturing processes and equipment to build and install them. During this time I also made and sold diamond tools, did 3D printing and prototype making as side businesses. I volunteered as instructor in machining and 3D printing at a local makerspace and did machining for a local maritime museum. What can I say, I'm a gearhead.

I'd say, try as many things as possible. It could range from running a machine making toothpaste tube caps to whale autopsy technician to towel boy at a strip club. Just find something you enjoy. Then do it.

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07/14/2016 12:44 PM

My advice is generic... not just for your specialty. There are a few things which determine if you are going to thrive and enjoy a job... ANY job. The first is that you must understand that a degree from a college or university is only a sign that you have learned HOW TO LEARN. They have judged your ability to communicate what you know and ask relevant questions. Another minimum skill is mathematics. Not just learning what any child can do with a hand held or laptop, but theory which makes it possible to analyze and predict with some certainty the process or the characteristics of something. In life, the person who knows the most math wins.

If you can communicate, it means you know enough of a language to not only write effectively and clearly, but accurately... so that you do not accidentally say something in your text which you do not mean.

I have had three or four careers in my life, have multiple degrees in disparate sciences and have taught at different age levels, including college. I'm happily retired and consider this something I can share to help you become the happy, self actualized person we all hope to be.

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07/14/2016 11:43 PM

The various positions noted by posters, regardless of their degree(s) shows how adaptable engineers are.

One field that I didn't notice mentioned is safety.

What comes to mind immediately is a position with a Environmental Health and Safety (EHS) department of a hospital or university. Your particular training allows you to understand the problems and needs of two rather separate fields.

Although my degree was in chemical engineering, my first "real" job was as a an assistant project engineer with the maintenance department of a sugar refinery, and I learned a lot of things that aren't taught in school.

Remember, you were taught how to think!

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07/16/2016 2:38 AM

yigitalp,

I can really understand your point of view as I also graduated with a bachelors degree in mechanical engineering my country in Africa in the nineties when you could count factories available with your two hands and skip many fingers. However with the advent of internet and blogs like CR4 , I have managed to develop engineering skill and intuition. I have designed and supervised projects that at one time I thought were the preserve of the developed countries. As long as you can read ,write and understand; seek the knowledge on your own. University teaches you how to research, it does not give you answers to problems. Joining CR4 is a good start but how much you will develop as a biomedical engineer is all to do with you and not your University.

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07/17/2016 12:16 AM

Your sentence "University teaches you how to research, it does not give you answers to problems." reminds me of a similar line by my calculus when I was a freshman in college: "A smart man is not one who knows all of the answers, but where to find it, and what to do with it when he finds it."

That was almost 50 years ago.

Ley us know how things worked out for you.

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08/01/2016 12:14 PM

Isn't it a bit facile to say that universities teach you how to learn, or even how to research? Is there one course in a university on how to learn? My experience is that the professor talked and you took notes without understanding much. I threw them all away a few years after uni and started reading books to understand what these guys were talking about.

Research? There is a thing called "The Scientific Method". It's in a book by Will Durant and I'm sure he didn't invent it. They never taught it to me at University and I learned it many years after University was over.

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08/09/2016 8:58 PM

Actually, that's not quite correct.

Universities give you a series of academic challenges by which you figure out how to learn what it takes to complete their (academic obstacle course(s)) (i.e.: to learn how to teach yourself, to varying extents...)

In short, if you want ever-growing employment, go to barber school (ha, ha, ...)

If you want training, go to a vocational school, or some branch of the (military).

If you want an education, go to community and/or state college.

If you want to become a researcher, go to University...

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07/31/2016 4:53 AM

Is it possible to study different graduate program than your major in undergrad program ?

for example; as I mentioned before , I graduated from biomedical major, can I pursue my education as an industrial engineer or mechanical engineer with any graduate/master program?

If the answer is yes / what can I do or what should I do.

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Re: What Can Be Done After Graduating From Biomedical Engineering Major?

08/01/2016 11:02 AM

If you have the money and they have the education available, you can usually work out something. I have a bachelors in manufacturing engineering and masters in nuclear engineering, masters in environmental science and masters in management in science and technology.

Each program required an entrance exam to verify you had the basic knowledge to complete the program and you had to pay the tuition and fees. Otherwise, the educational world is your oyster.

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Re: What Can Be Done After Graduating From Biomedical Engineering Major?

08/01/2016 4:04 PM

Out in the real(world), not im(world), they have these things called J.O.B.S. of which you should seek until you get one, I don't care what field, pick from an industry that is prominent in your home town. See how much you learn compared to what your were being "taught" (only to forget?) in University setting = Im(world). Just remember that once you find this J.O.B., you will need to hang on to it for at least 3 years, then if you consider yourself a "journeyman" in this trade, you can move on if you don't like it.

You will gain insight. Insight = exp (real(world) + im(world). Right now your insight value is somewhat limited, unless you have a rare gift and have always known what to do.

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08/01/2016 7:57 PM

Is it too late for you to ask what the other (bio-med) grads are now doing with their (new lives)?...

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10/20/2016 7:20 PM

If you were serious about exploring affordable options in any one of a wide variety of college courses, then bingle:

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