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MacGyver Reboot Engineering?

09/27/2016 10:26 AM

Did anyone watch the first episode of the MacGyver reboot? I did and I was very disappointed in the engineering displayed. Perhaps I hold MacGyver to a higher standard but it seemed like they used a lot of bad engineering cliches. The engineering they did use and explain, like a small electromagnet to knock out a radio earpiece was just plain wrong.

I am not saying everything in the original was great engineering but I feel like it was a little more rooted in reality. I am curious to know others thoughts if you watched it.

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09/27/2016 10:38 AM

Sorry we'll need a bigger budget to be realistic...

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09/28/2016 2:12 PM

As a kid, I never really watched MacGyver. I did watch the latest reboot and that will be the last one I watch. MacGyver has to be viewed as pure entertainment alone, devoid of any real scientific merit. I'm far from having a scientific mind, but at least I can recognize fact from fiction.

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09/28/2016 2:28 PM

The point of MacGyver is that he used his resourcefulness that was based in physical and chemical science and engineering and applied it.

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09/27/2016 10:40 AM

I haven't seen it. I was a big MacGyver fan as a kid and I don't think I would enjoy a reboot of the series. Especially if the engineering is as bad as you say.

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09/28/2016 10:23 AM

I did not watch either, but,,, you have to bear in mind why they make such or any shows - to entertain (and sell advertising of course). Sometimes one watches for the pure entertainment value whether the science is accurate of not. I am sure that there are a lot of smiling/grinning faces who know that what is shown is not possible, but still watch,,, just to be entertained. After all, those who know better, can see the humor and it does make one think about the science of what is shown (keeps the mind active that is).

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09/27/2016 10:51 AM

A lot of engineering MacGyver would use would amount to hacks they have on pinterest or instructables or something.

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09/27/2016 11:00 AM

Too much nefariousness abounds to disseminate cogent knowledge freely such a shame we can't get along.

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09/27/2016 1:52 PM

Same here. I've come to the conclusion that TV producers don't want to waste their budget on a science guy because 95 percent of the audience don't notice the difference.

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09/27/2016 1:56 PM

Well, If you go and watch the originals with a now modern engineering and technical mindset the whole series from back then was sort of lame.

As much as I enjoyed the series as kid now as an adult with those sort of technical skills the original show is more than just sort of dumb.

As a kid, "WOW that's amazing! I wanna be like that when I grow up!"

As an adult with that diversified of background, "WTF? That's impossible."

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09/27/2016 2:05 PM

If you watch Star Wars, one wonders what really originally amazed you.

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09/27/2016 2:43 PM

The MacGruber movie they made recently was sooooooooo spectacularly bad and offensive to the original source material (even failing at being a comedy) I thought that would be the death of any possible MacGyver reboot.

Thankfully I was wrong.

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09/27/2016 3:03 PM

The MacGruber movie ....

You going to like it, trust me.

Hey did you buy my book?

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09/27/2016 2:40 PM

Like all the other reboots (the Ghostbusters movie for example) the remake is almost never as good as the fresh original show or movie that we grew up with and as such it is unfair to try to make a direct comparison, especially as adolescent emotional attachment clouds even the most logical mind.

After watching the first episode, is the science and engineering woefully inaccurate? Yes, but lets not forget so was the science and engineering in the original.

The basic physics, chemistry, engineering and computing concepts were there but were blown out of proportion for entertainment purposes (for example who remembers MacGyver flying out of a ship's cargo hold using only two industrial water blasters strapped to his back). Will the reboot be any better, hard to say after only one episode.

In the end what is the point of the new MacGyver? THE SAME AS THE POINT OF THE OLD MACGYVER! Making engineering and science fun, interesting and accessable to a new generation of kids. Lets cut it some slack and see if they tighten up the science and make it more realistic.

We need more programs like this that help promote science and engineering to counter the mind shriviling cr@p that is shown at the moment. If the science has to take a bit of a hit for entertainment purposes, so be it, or do you want kids to grow up with fake celebrity and reality tv participants as their roll models?

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09/27/2016 5:48 PM

GA (Gotta Agree). The consensus is that the original was exciting as a kid, but falls down viewed through adult engineering eyes. Let the next generation of kids eyes light up!

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09/27/2016 6:09 PM

Let the next generation of kids eyes light up!

.....and be inspired to go into the engineering or sciences.

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09/27/2016 6:30 PM

I did!

Then I ran into you people and never went anywhere since.

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09/27/2016 7:40 PM

If you never went anywhere since, then you must still be in engineering/science, and at least a few of us guys must be okay.

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09/27/2016 2:46 PM

BE WARNED EVERYONE - Going back and re-watching the original out of nostalgia as an adult may result in disappointment, especially if you now work in the engineering or scientific fields.

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09/27/2016 3:05 PM

there was a time a few years after Star Wars came out, when you'd see special effects on a movie,... any movie, you know how it was done.... and that was the beginning of the end.

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09/27/2016 4:24 PM

You mean to tell me all those episodes of The Lone Ranger and Tonto were not gospel fact? OMG

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09/27/2016 4:49 PM

He held off of batman and superman.... Only to give you hope.

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09/28/2016 10:00 AM

The movie with Johnny Depp as Tonto should have given you a clue - that don't make horrible comedic parodies of a good good series, only ones needing some pokes in the ribs. Now - where is Pancho and Cisco?

What we watched as kids - how did we grow up to be productive adults???

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09/28/2016 11:13 AM

We are productive...adults?

Welcome to the disappointment room of nostalgia theater.

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09/28/2016 11:24 AM

Buckaroo Banzai and his band of men, the Hong Kong Cavaliers, are on the ramp:)

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09/28/2016 11:31 AM

Yeah we are, at least I am - I've produced 2 offspring and a whole lot of waste to over load land fills, plastic garbage to go into the oceans, and carbon dioxide for global warming. So has my offspring.

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09/28/2016 12:17 PM

A job well done.

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09/28/2016 11:13 AM

OK, if we can't buy into the engineering and science, we can at least make a drinking game out of it.

How about every time they do something on the show that is patently ridiculous, take a shot of whatever you are drinking. By the first commercial series, you won't care much.

We could also roll it into a reality show, "The Real Livers of CR4" or "Drunk guys watching McGuyver".

This is not a new idea by any means. The wife and I host bad movie nights where the meal and snacks are themed on the movie. For Sharknado, we grill salmon, snack on salmon dip and goldfish crackers and the desert was vanilla ice cream with gummi sharks and Swedish fish topping. We rate movies on the cider scale. As in, how many hard ciders will it take as anesthetic to get through the movie?

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09/28/2016 11:22 AM

When watching Superman,the movie and I saw them talking on the moon,I have stopped believing everything I see on TV or the movies.

I think they just make some of this stuff up.

Everyone knows there is no air on the moon!

My faith in movie engineers has been destroyed,and any semblance of their stunts to reality is coincidental and may not reflect accepted engineering principles.

The only Principle I would listen to is Victoria Principle(Oops! My age is showing)

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09/28/2016 12:39 PM

Is superman still super on the moon, or just mediocre?

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09/28/2016 4:58 PM

Didn't you read the comic books when you were a kid?

It was all explained in the comic books:

His superpowers occurred because Earth in orbiting a yellow sun,as opposed to

Krypton,which was a red sun.

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09/29/2016 10:07 AM

Thanks for stooping to help me. When I was a kid, we had a TV, but it got all four stations with the same clarity - snow, or flurry. We could not afford such things as comic books, only time I saw them was three times a year at the barber shop.

My toys were plows fabricated from can lids, sticks, and blocks of wood carved to look like caterpillar tractors.

So does yellow Kryptonite make superman stronger or weaker? I know red is bad, and I vaguely remember green being bad also.

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09/28/2016 1:11 PM

How can you only "think" that. It is, after all, a fact that they make it up.

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09/28/2016 4:54 PM

Now don't tell me they really didn't have super powers!

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09/28/2016 5:00 PM

Thinking is all anyone can really do,isn't it?

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09/29/2016 8:11 AM

That is what keeps us going.

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09/29/2016 2:32 PM

I thought it was coffee?

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Well,,,,,, that helps us along as well to some ° and sometimes is helps us make ¢'s as well¡¡

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09/28/2016 5:16 PM

Oh - watch some sci-fi from the 50's for some strange science. When in a space craft outside the Earth's gravitational field, but in a pressurized atmosphere, did you know that:

1. You talk very slowly and much deeper in tone

2. When a gun is fired the bullet just comes out about 6 inches and falls to the floor.

3. However the sound of the gun is not modified in space as a voice is.

4. Magnetic boots will hold you to the floor, but when you get into a bunk, you can lie down just fine, as though gravity was there for some strange reason.

Yeah - that's right - watch Abbott and Costello Go To Mars. (okay so I watch Svengoolie on the weekends to dumb down a bit)

Did we actually believe that before we ventured into space?

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Say it ain't so!

No Easter Bunny!

No tooth Fairy?

I can't take it!

I remember when my son lost a baby tooth,and he was told about the tooth fairy leaving a quarter under his pillow at night while he slept.

The next day,he was thumbing the quarter,and asked his mom how many teeth a person had,and would the tooth fairy pay for all of them.

Where did the tooth fairy get the money-where did the tooth fairy work--how did the tooth fairy get in the house at night and get past the dog,and on and on and on with the questions.

She finally broke down and told him there was no tooth fairy,and that she and I had provided the quarter.

He thought a minute,and then asked if he could get an advance on his remaining teeth.

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Sets a bad precedent. I can see this kid growing up selling other people's organs.

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Sorry if what I said, ticked you off. Not meant as an attack on your child.

Just that the child seems to be an entrepreneur. My humble apologies, even though Admin removed your reply, I never meant to trample out of bounds there.

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I never took offense to the remark.No apology needed!

My reply was humorous,but evidently a little too much off-color for the admin.

I understand it may have been a little offensive to those with thin skin.

I have been accused of being brash,crude,rude and socially unacceptable in the past,but not deliberately offensive.

My son is an entrepreneur and once sold sand to the Saudi's.

Their sand was not the right granular size for swimming pool filters.

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That right there is an accomplishment for the halls of Glory!

That is like selling wind in West Texas, or even hot air.

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09/28/2016 7:33 PM

My favourite was one movie I saw when earthlings went to Mars. They landed with no breathing apparatus and then walked around until a guy whose only costume was a earth period specific three piece boiler suit popped out from behind a rock and introduced himself with a straight face as a martian.

After that poor movie physics in those old movies didn't really seem like the biggest problem.

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Re: MacGyver Reboot Engineering?

09/29/2016 8:14 AM

I'm pretty sure that all the people who sincerely believe man has never been into space would thank that your points are true and valid.

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Re: MacGyver Reboot Engineering?

09/29/2016 8:30 AM

Silly man! Of course we have never been to the moon.

The heat from the engines would have melted the green cheese and they would never have been able to return.

And those "craters" and seas on the moon are really cow patties dropped when the cow jumped over it.

Didn't they teach you anything in elementary school?

Sheesh!

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09/29/2016 8:43 AM

LOL, and it is rare for me.©

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