Residential Wiring

Don't.

Quite.

"How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life." _{--CAPTAIN KIRK, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan}

...and in other news, the fatality accident rate among ad hoc local electricians is no more than typical inhabitants of Chicago by other activities. This has been an update from Fakey Fakey Untrue Communications Korporation (a Russia Korporation) - F.F.U.C.K. for short.

True, but then Chicago is an unusually deadly city.

Odd, I've been in Chicago for almost five decades and it hasn't killed me yet.

There is always hope. Need I explain that comment any further?

No, I think I understand.

"Bess your heart" too, and the horse you rode in on.

(In all honesty, I hope this is just 'mock rancor' passing between us. Aside from our political views being as incompatible as Lithium and water (as as much of a fireworks show when they DO come into contact with each other), I thought we get along pretty well and have a lot in common. For example, neither of us enjoys the company of people who post "I want to do <obvious dangerous violation of basic safety principles> how do I do it?" and neither of us are shy in telling said person to stop what their doing RIGHT NOW and go get QUALIFIED help.)

Getting help is the key phrase there. I absolutely look forward to all "feigned rancor" between us. It is the process of iron sharpening (the tongue) of iron.

Bess? Brown Bess my heart? Wow. Leave my horse out of it, he is not a sod.

Comey would be singing: "I left my heart in San Francisco", except I think he was actually in L.A.

You gonna apply for the Director job?

Yeah, you caught my typo, I intended to say, "Bless your heart."

I also learned what that phrase REALLY means when used to end a conversation. (I'm a Norther boy, and when I was watching those shows like Dallas, I was too young to catch the 'subtext' of many scenes.)

Bless yo' Heart is probably OK.

These days, you cannot say: "Bless yo' Pea-Pickin' Heart".

(1) Nobody knows what a pea patch is anymore, because if they ever saw peas, they were on the grocery store shelf in a can.

(2) They might think you are a "booger" picker? Hey, you, is that the same finger you dial the office phone with?

You live in Chicago, I have lived in Detroit for 51 years, obviously you are still around as am I. We have a saying here "where the week are killed and eaten". Obviously neither of us are the week... Both cities are dangerous for the timid who don't keep their heads up when they walk around. I have been to Chicago multiple times with no issues, I go to down town Detroit all the time, with no issues. I suspect either of us could visit the other city and just be fine.

I actually have fun when I go to Chicago, besides the great blues bars, there is a club made from an old church, was called the "Excalibur", probably the coolest bar I have ever been in.

Alright, I get it! You know, I am more than half sorry I brought that up.

I did get beat up in Detroit as a kid (12) by 16 yo gang, but it was on Woodward Ave. about 4-5 weeks before the general riots broke out. It left me with (sadly) a lasting impression of big cities I will never (apparently) forget.

I pray for all American cities to be restored to the greatness the founders of our country, and of those cities intended for them to grow into. I will pray for Detriot, and Chicago now as if they were my own city of Lubbock, because in a real sense, every city is my (and your) city. The law does not require we "hold our head up", and not "appear" weak or as a victim, in order to pass along the streets of any city.

The law essentially requires: "No moleste". In English, "live and let live". Even animals supposedly less intelligent that humans know this.

The 'trick' with surviving in Chicago is to know where the 'high crime' and the 'low crime' areas are.

The 'high crime' areas are pretty easy to spot, they look run down, buildings are boarded up, graffiti is left to sit on the walls so long they get sun-faded; in other words, the 'poor sections of town that have been left to rot.'⁽¹⁾ Sadly, the poor people who are left to fend for themselves in the 'rotting slums,' end up very desperate for things they need for basic survival, and when you're desperate enough, you WILL kill for half a loaf of bread to feed your kids.⁽³⁾

Notes:

1. The 'average survival age' of big cities tend to get skewed the same way as the 'average lifespan' of the Middle Ages does; it is the mean average (sum all the items then divide by the number of items), and a lot of 'died young' incidents throw the mean average off.⁽²⁾
2. In the middle ages, if you didn't die before you're twelfth birthday, you were expected to live to your 60's, barring war, plague, or farming accident. You just had long odds on seeing 12. It's also why many European cultures didn't baptize or name the infants right away; it seemed better to wait and see if the kid was going to be around long enough to need a name.
3. The question of "What to do with the slums" is better left for another discussion, as there are two general opinions ('let it rot' versus 'spend money to fix it'), and each side has become very politically charged.

You forgot to mention the areas where houses are separated by vacant lots on all sides. My 45 minute walk through Garfield to the science and technology museum a few years ago was quite an eye opener. Even the huge black guy opposite me on the train back to the hotel was surprised. "Are you LOST?" he said (heavy emphasis and inflection on the word lost). Ah, what they don't show you on the maps.

Good times, good times.

"Even the huge black guy opposite me on the train back to the hotel was surprised. "Are you LOST?" he said (heavy emphasis and inflection on the word lost)."

Well, you were probably doing the 'tourist looking at everything' head swivel with a confused look on your face. We was probably seeing if he could get you on the right train to get you where you would recognize the landmarks⁽¹⁾.

Or he could have been proselytizing, did he have multiple copies of The Watchtower on him? Any fliers from the local Baptist church⁽²⁾?

Notes:

1. For all our attempts at being an inclusive, cosmopolitan, 'liberal' city, Chicago is still primarily a 'city of neighborhoods.' It's hard to use blanket terms to describe the entire city, since the city itself is still predominately a patchwork quilt of cultures. It's our strength in that we have many different cultures and viewpoints to explore when looking for solutions to problems, but it also means that there is still a bit of segregation in the housing market. We've got Chinese neighborhoods, Japanese neighborhoods, Korean neighborhoods, Greek neighborhoods, Polish Neighborhoods, Swedish neighborhoods, German neighborhoods, Mexican neighborhoods, Black neighborhoods, etc. And while none are exclusively one demographic, each neighborhood holds on tightly to its 'cultural identity.' The diversity gives the city strength, and it even allows for inexpensive 'mini-vacations,' just by visiting another neighborhood and exploring, but it means we are not as homogeneous as New York, which seems to have come up with a new 'cultural identity' that people cling to tighter than the culture their family came from.
2. Not trying to sound racist here, it's just that most proselytizing blacks in Chicago belong to either a Baptist church, or the Jehovah's Witnesses. Those are two of the three main religions that actively seek converts in Chicago. The Mormons are the third, but I have never seen a Black Elder in the City; it's always a pair of white guys in 50's buzzcuts and the 'mission uniform' of crisp white shirt, black suit pants, and black tie. 50's era horn-rim glasses optional.

No to both. He seemed more surprised and confused than anything else. I never felt threatened while I was there.

You know, everybody from Chicago whom i've spoken to, says the same thing.

Well, it *IS* a little tricky to find one who says, "I was killed by a stray bullet from a gang fight when I was eight. I was just sitting on my porch, playing with my dolls when the punks a half-block away on the other side of the street started shooting. I didn't even hear anything; I guess it was the 'warning shot' that got me."

This article claims St. Louis is almost twice as deadly as Chicago.

First, get a license for your location.

In your case? You don't proceed at all, you need professional help.

And if you need a second opinion to all the "hire a professional." comments:

Posting a question anonymously is a clear indicator that you know/suspect that you are asking a 'stupid question' and don't want people knowing who you really are.

If you've been here long enough, you should have noticed the pattern when AP#1 opens a thread with a stupid question:

The other forum members offer plenty of sarcasm.
AP#2 shows up to berate/insult AP#1.

Nonsense. The forum is anonymous.

It is really quite easy and only needs three steps. Step 1: pick up a phone book. Step 2: find the number of a licensed electrician. Step 3: Ring that number and speak.

It sounds as though you have already tried to do some of the work, got into trouble and cried out for help. If you did then get an electrician in at once. You may have a serious accident waiting to happen. Electricity is very unforgiving and can kill.

Did you mean after a professional licensed electrician installed all the power points, cable junctions, light fittings, safety features (RCD and so on) and panels required?

Just proceed! It will be fine as long as the electrician is still there.

What preparation is there for the cables to be run? Do you have the correct rated cables?

TROLL!

Dear friend,

I am not sure your country where you are living.

In India, unless you are qualified and obtain Wire Man Licence/ Electrical Supervisor's Licence, do not do on your own. The wiring work to be done by a B licence person and supervised by C license person., this certificates is issued by the state's competent authority. If you have C licence, you can do on your own and certify.

Every country has its own regulations - to be strictly followed. Safety of the occupants and equipment is the prime concern and cannot be compramised.

Dhayanandhan.S

Get a 300 foot, 10 Ga extension cord and hook the end to a belt loop. Then you have power wherever you need it.

In reality, it depends on where you are and the local regulations. Where I live, I can do my own wiring as long as I'm not getting the house ready to sell, but I still have to bring in a county inspector to inspect it and I still need to get a permit. Otherwise, local law says I need to hire a certified electrician and get a permit.

Other locations have other requirements.

Actually who you want to hire or have help you with your wiring is a qualified electrician. Just having a license doesn't automatically make someone knowledgeable experienced or skilled.

Depending On where you are there a good chance that if you went to the right licencing places you could get a licence despite not having the skills to plug a toaster into a wall socket.

California Contractors License. No Exam Application

Where I am from any homeowner can legally do their own wiring work and at worst they may have to have it inspected by a state inspector as being done correctly for insurance reasons if your home insurance provider requires it. (Some actually don't!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw

I noticed TCMTech did a cameo.

I am glad to have had this morning's safety film. 'Nuff said.

How so?

At 1:08 and again at 1:30.

Well you got me there!

Could be because you're such a people person.

Let me see...he let a serial killer in the front door, and had a rattlesnake as a pet.

I guess the rattlesnake bite the box of post toastires before he could strike.

It's people that made me this way.

Treat every child with kindness and every adult with respect otherwise you never know when you might wake up at 2 Am with a crazy clown sitting on your chest holding a cordless drill while pondering on what he's going to do to you based on how you react to certain questions!

You know, I almost hate to say it, but it seems like it always the clowns you have to be afraid of, be very afraid of.

Guess who wore a mask like this while robbing banks?

No, not Dillinger. Freddy wasn't around back then.

That's right, it was Carl Gugasian!

That dude could hop over counters, so hopping up on your bed in clown gear would not be a problem, although a bit far from his M.O.

"Come home to a real fire. Buy a cottage in Wales."

yp.com. Search 'electrician - your city' - JHF

Any chance you can respond to my questions in post #1, or should we take my answer as being the one you were after?

AP#1 has probably ran screaming from this thread (if not the entire site) based on the current responses to his Stupid Question^(TM).

Sadly, he'll be back with Yet Another Stupid Question^(R)(TM). AP#1 ALWAYS comes back with YASQ sooner or later.

First thing you need a residential Building. Then you need sketches or drawings. (Authority approval as applicable ). Then you need materials and tools.

1. select the method of installation. Concealed or surface

2. Install the conduits, trunking, or any wire carrying containtments.

3. fix the switch boxes, junction boxes, Distribution boards etc.

4. Do the wiring.

5. Terminate the wiring and install all lightfittings, sockets, and Distribution boards.

6. Do the necessary Tests.

7. Apply for the electricity connection.

"How to proceed with residential wiring?"

Back away. Slowly.

Exactly, the OP should 'proceed' by 'retreating' to a safe distance and THEN calling someone who knows (and is licensed, so we have PROOF that he was tested on his knowledge) to to the wiring for him.