Is There A Chemical Engineer In The House

You'd think. Let's add all drug laws, seatbelt & helmet laws, gun laws, and any other malum prohibitum law you can think of!

I agree with public safety laws like seat belts, & assault riffles. But someone destroying there own body?

You can't have it both ways. The choice to not wear a seatbelt only effects my own body. If seatbelt laws qualify as public safety, then making it illegal for a productive member of society to destroy their body and thereby deny their productivity to the common cause is also a public safety issue. Where is the line to be drawn? And why should a portion of my income be reassigned to them when they do break the law, destroy their body and claim welfare? I think that to a certain extent, ozzb has it right. Imposing the moral standard makes them look effective (and feel powerful).

I do not see a problem with drug use by a person, as long as they can not use this as a legal defense when they commit a crime. However, in our society the concern is not the users, but the prevalence of such use being pushed down on to children in order for them to be competitive. Our government has always imposed moral standards to some degree (keep in mind they made slavery legally acceptable, legitimizing one small groups morals). To some degree the government has to step in because national baseball would never step in as long as they make money. While we do not like to believe it, there are more people out there who would have their children on steroids, if they believed they had any chance at a professional contract, then would send their children to college. Additionally, if a something is illegal, the government then has an obligation to enforce the law. If a group of people then regularly trade and benefit from this illegal act, their may be a conspiracy. Since steroids are illegal, really the justice department should be prosecuting people and investigating conspiracy charges against coaches and others actively aiding the behavior. Since congress had to get involved, it seems that the justice department dropped the ball on enforcing the law. Believe you me, some poor kid in college would get prosecuted for his drug use, and if the university was assisting his drug use they would get investigated also.

It's because they can't agree on the big issues. But they can come to agreement in imposing the morals of the few on the many. Makes it look like they are doing something.

Agreed. Lets face it, we have a do nothing Congress, but they want us to believe they are actively working. Something like 79+% of the time, the congessional halls are empty.

That's okay. Lately, do-nothing has been far better than the alternative! They've shown they can't make things any better, least they're not making it worse.

The opposite of pro is con.

The opposite of progress is.......

Sorry had to take the mickey here, both our political systems are run by politicians, that seems to be the problem here

use to be 94%.

I thought it was yet another congressional sneak. Only this time; for otherwise difficult to obtain autographs.

cr3

It brings super human capablities for performance for short while , if it is legal to accept drugs for sporting than it will be normal human effort in the end because both sides will have there doses , where politics interfarace is matter of concern , may be it is big game in back field

The difference is, in my opinion, is that everyone drives & wears seat belts & the innocent passengers have away the help them from injury. But people who play baseball don't hurt anyone but themselves & the stats. By the way if you can afford steroids then your not on welfare.
The point of my post was to determined if there were any chemical engineers that had a view on steroid use. And if congress should play a part.

AS Hendrik points out "it's about the children" [said in a nasal whining voice].

Sports figures are supposedly "role Models" & so the corruption of these icons is of course the #1 priorty of our lawmakers.

no need to deal w/pesky issues like health care, budget deficits & the war on freedom.

Growth hormones in meat are a more serious matter, food is a public safety issue worthy of legislative oversite.

Steroid sales are big business and there is a great need for it. I don't think congress will be able to stop it.

I have seen a skinny youngster starting to use steroids with some miraculous results. he suddenly looked like a character from WWW Raw. But the glamour did not last long and he was put to rest.

Youngsters should be protected against their own vanity and pressure of "ideal" media bodies.

What concerns me even more is the possible indirect exposure. I know it is controversial but why else would an 8 year old who eat fried chicken every second night develop boobs?

I therefore hope Congress may succeed in saving at least a few young patients. It might be easier said than done.

your talking about steroids in our food chain. Congress should act!

"That government is best which governs least." Thomas Paine

Well, that's just common sense.

You should seek information from the Pharmaceutical people. They have the know how.

"Why is steroid use illegal?"

I am surprised that it is illegal were you are. I had a painter friend, who died recently, and without prescribed steroids he would have died ten years earlier. It was quite a financial burden for all concerned but he created many a good painting.

Does congress want to stop this being done. Giving life saving help to a needy person. I don't think so.

Taking drugs to out-perform an un drugged competitor is immoral. Maybe the introduction of a 'drug-league', were the gloves are of and anyone can use drugs in copious amounts, would be the solution. The sooner the cheats die out the better. I heard that there are side effects like impotence so at least they won't breed that prolific. It always comes out in the big wash. Ky.

I don't believe in nanny state conditions and it sounds ridiculous to me that it is blanket banned anywhere. They put steroids in chemo for cancer patients because it helps most of them against the adverse affect of the poisons. It is even present in baby skin cream as it helps skin regrowth.

There are many steroids and not all are bad or good. Too complicated a subject for such generalisation.

Very true, Tylenol, as in Acetaminophen, is in the steroidal family. ( I'm allergic to non-steroidal anti-inflammatories).

Many steroids can cause chemical imbalances that lead to rage, mood shifts, and depression.

as for the political issue: the Public servant is making the public a Servant.

Op Kicked out my own soap box.

Didn't hurt as much as I thought it would

Brad

"Many steroids can cause chemical imbalances that lead to rage, mood shifts, and depression. "

It can also do the opposite and "lift " you so you feel like on top of the world.

My wife had cancer twice and only recently finished her radiation treatment which came after 6 months of chemo. It turned her hypo which is half way house to psychotic, not nice.

We found her mood lifts so unbearable it almost broke as up as a family. Thank god they found the right treatment in the end but some unmeasurable damage was done already and we had to pick up the pieces, still busy with that now to be honest.

The multi faceted face of steriods makes it the most unsuitable item of all to be legislated against unlike class a, b or c drugs.

I always thought that if any life form expressed a wish to become a politician, it should be stiffled immediately. The worst breed of them all in my mind.

Right On! Let's all band together and get rid of Congress, those stupid "do nothings"!

Every single person in this so-called "FREE" country is a prizoner of there stupididity.

We shuld all be able to du whatever we want!

Let each ball team pik there favrit steroid and use them, and lets see which one is the BEST! Then everyone will KNOW for sure which one to buy.

Meanwhile - in the background - lets all get together and build a team of composit and titanium androids and program them to be perfect players in evry respect. We'll dare the Commissioner of baseball to deny letting ourz guyz play! Thell HAVE to let the team in, or we'll start a sit-out from every game until they du let us in! Nobuddy can stop us, cuz were right!

Rock on CR4!

Interesting concept, a world without politicians. Hummmmm! That means no laws. We talking Mad Max?

I just settle for one where they are held accountable and not in the pockets of the banks.

Brad

I am going to join this organization. I think its the way we are headed.

That's allot better than the couch potatoes my one vote don't count.

What they don't realize is that if they vote for someone who shares their views regardless if they will win, it sends a message. It will not matter if the machines are rigged etc.

Brad