Has Anyone Noticed how Confused we Feel?

If I had a garden, and fertilized it with BS, and spread your words over my plants, it would cause my garden to thrive.

It is better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

If you are not vaccinated, you are a problem.

If you spread BS you are a problem too.

This is mindless mudslinging. You label the contents of my post #101 as BS, but give no explanation as to why you consider it so.

Is it BS that the long term effects of these approved-for-emergency-use-only vaccines are unknown? Kindly explain why you believe the contrary.

Is it BS that a Canadian doctor found microscopic blood clots in the capillaries of 62% of his vaccinated patients? Maybe it is, but he has urged other experts in the field to investigate this, to determine if these findings are correct, and if so, what could be the long term consequences. If he had falsified his findings it seems unlikely he would be calling for peer review, do you not agree?

Is it BS that mRNA vaccines can sometimes cause ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement), wherein the vaccine itself is the driving mechanism for the emergence of more virulent strains of the virus? Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, and other virologists, have warned of this possibility. If you think this is shite, then I suggest you take up your disagreement with them, not me.

If Dr. Malone is correct, and you are wrong (Can you imagine that possibility!?) then the vaccinated, wrapped in their cloak of virtue, could be the primary breeding grounds for more virulent Covid-19 strains.

Get over yourself.

The long-term effect of birth is death. That fact has been known for millennia. The cause of death is usually unknown until it is too late.

Uncited "facts" are BS. That is almost a defining class of BS. Logical fallacies are BS so subtle they tempt authors to use them.

Is it BS that coincidences can sometimes be falsely attributed as causations? No, that happens all the time.

Do charlatans take advantage of the confused? Yes, they consider the confused to be easy prey.

Do confused people make more confusion? Yes, often when they refuse to listen to the consensus of trained professionals.

My request to you is identical to my request to lyn: Identify specifically what you consider to be BS in my post(s), and specifically explain why you dismiss the item(s) as BS. Without such specificity, you too are engaging in mindless mudslinging.

Mudslinging you say???? Which is worse? Mudslinging or repeating LIES, as you have, about a disease about which you know NOTHING, except what you are told by friends, Trump backing liars and what you read in whatever publications, if any, that you have read.

Do you also believe that Polish space lasers caused the fires in Calif?

How about this one??? Newly released emails reveal Jeffrey Clark, a Trump appointed DOJ lawyer, claimed China had changed voter ballots using thermostats.

How about injecting bleach into our bodies to cure Covid-19?

I could go on...........................................................................

Just a matter of time for you to bring up political mud slinging, your display of your own hatred filled body is unprecedented.

You are all over the place, aren't you? Polish space lasers? Trump backing liars?Thermostat ballot changing? Injecting bleach? Forgive me, but you sound a bit unhinged.

Dr. Malone and Canadian Dr. Hoffe are not, as you suggest, my "friends". Of course you can find on-line sources that claim to debunk them and all others who dare to voice even the slightest doubt about vaccine safety and efficacy. In this climate of true-believer-religious-fervour about these non-FDA approved vaccines, those who don't worship at that altar are automatically branded as heretics and crackpots. People with credentials in the fields of virology and vaccinology are understandably afraid to make their concerns public. Dr. Malone has admitted that what he is doing will be career damaging, but by his conscience he could not remain silent.

I don't cite sources? You don't need to be told how to type Antibody Dependent Enhancement into the search engine. You are correct, I have little knowledge in this field, but if those who by their credentials do have the requisite knowledge warn that ADE is a real possibility with mRNA vaccines, and that this could affect their safety and efficacy, then it is reasonable for me to also recognise that danger as a possibility - not a certainty, but a possibility. What is in that recognition that angers you? I find your reaction, and that of your friend redfred, bizarre. This is nothing to do with Trump backing liars, space lasers, injecting bleach...my oh my. Just look at where you go when your religious belief in these vaccines is questioned.

Addendum to my reply to lyn:

Referencing my post #102 (not #101 as I inadvertently stated):

Is it BS that the vaccinated can still contract and transmit Covid-19? What then are we to make of the reports from Israel of hospitalised, fully vaccinated people - and similar reports from certain U.S. states?

Is it BS that unvaccinated people, who have had Covid-19, will then have natural immunity?

Again, you have vociferously declared my post #102 to be complete BS. Kindly explain why you are of that opinion.

If one looks far enough, one can find many crackpots claiming to be experts.

I'll not waste my time chasing after other claims of yours. Too many pigeon droppings on your work to be valid anywhere except here in Solar Eagle's fantasy forum.

From Wiki:

Malone received criticism for propagating COVID-19 misinformation, including making unsupported claims about the alleged toxicity of spike proteins generated by some COVID-19 vaccines; using interviews on mass media to popularize self-medication with ivermectin; and tweeting a study by others questioning vaccine safety that was later retracted. He said LinkedIn suspended his account over what he claimed were posts he had made questioning the efficacy of some COVID-19 vaccines.^{[3][7][18][19][20]}

We tried telling you that same thing in 2016, but you also refuse to listen.

I like to add to #7, vaccinated people can be carriers and spread COVID to the unvaccinated… but it difficult to keep up when the experts keep moving the goal posts…

It is not the experts who are moving the goal posts; it is the disease itself.

The experts have sometimes expressed themselves poorly, but they (and we) are dealing with a moving target, and thus the info must change accordingly.

That’s true,… the problem is, the experts may claim on being prudent as a reaction, yet when they make a declaration on what you need to do, they themselves don’t even follow their own directives.

The problem is, just because the experts talk as though they know what their talking about, doesn’t make it so. And then to flip flop. This can go on only so long before one needs to question the experts.

Evolution happens whether we like it or not.

On the tree of evolution, hopefully, we’re all still on a good solid branch, and not on a twig.

You said, "We should all be understanding and allow you some leeway"

I DO NOT WANT ANYBODY'S PITY!!!!!!

The PM I sent to a group of you was NEVER intended to solicit pity, or leeway, and never intended for the general population, or should I say the usual suspects.

I am not sure what you mean by "I'm curious how you feel about things?" I don't recall many times when I did NOT share how I felt about things.

There are many times when I don't bother, because the same gang of Trump worshipers will just strut around, spread their pigeon wings, attack and declare themselves the winners.

Global warming is always a good example.

You misunderstood. Things have become very heated here and I was trying to bring both sided back to the table - where communication exists, not hostility. How can we discuss opinions and solutions when people are defensive?

My intention is not to give anyone pity.

Also, if someone worships their President, why would that offend you? As a person who loves his country, I support my President, even if I didn't vote for him. At least I try my best to.

Why can't we go back to the things we were brought up to believe. You show respect to others is the first, which is lacking on this site.

Who's "we"? You have a frog in your pocket?

Yes, I have noticed how confused some people are, oftentimes on their own initiative.

Hmmm. Either you're not very involved with the general public or you just want to argue.

When you have a moment, do some research on Marc Lasry. He runs a lot of money for the very wealthy on Wall Street. A couple weeks ago, I saw him in a panel discussion about where the market is headed. He stated that he didn't know what the future looks like, because the Fed is making some very bad decisions. Distressed debt is very dangerous now, due to the Fed's QE. Prices are much too high, because fixed income is chasing rate. Why? The Fed. They're artificially raising the price of debt, because they're huge net buyers of debt. Normally, pros can gauge the market by looking at the fixed income guys, but not now. So many run to the sidelines, which is why we have a record $$ of uninvested money.

You claim to have clarity, so I'll call you to the carpet. Tell me why the 10 year ran over 1.75% earlier this year and why it dropped below 1.20% just recently. And if you think you know the answer to this, then you'll be able to tell us where the 10 year will be on December 31st. Better yet, what will the effect of Jackson Hole be this year?

I have a feeling you're clueless about this, but maybe I'm wrong, so this is your chance to one up me.

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