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Steve S. Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1790 Good Answers: 87	Psychology of Engineers 02/01/2008 8:52 PM
	I am taking a psychology class this semester: Normal Human Growth and Development. As a part of the class, I've been asked to do some interviews to verify the results of a prominent researcher in the field of psychology. I have chosen to study Erik Erikson, and particularly his work in regard to mid life. I am interested to see if the experience engineers, scientists, or technical people deviate from the psychological models that Erikson has proposed (see this link erikson for more info), assuming that a tendency toward logic and reason might make the way we deal with midlife different than the general population. I am also interested in differences based on country of origin. So, the following is a survey that I would like to get some of you to fill out. Feel free to copy and paste it to a post and answer it, or if you do not wish your answers to be public, copy and paste your response to a private message to me. I recognize that I am not going to get a very significant statistical sample, but that is ok. Also feel free to go off topic, I am also interested in comments on psychology in general, etc, but I need the surveys for a grade so I would appreciate the help. Thanks in advance! 1) Are you male or female? 2) What is your age? 3) What country have you spent most of your life in? 4) Do you have children? What ages? 5) Are you involved with mentoring kids in any way (coaching kids sports, boy scouts, Sunday school, etc)? How often (weekly, monthly?) 6) At work do you participate in mentoring programs for younger engineers? 7) At work do you enjoy helping younger engineers succeed? 8) Is mentoring younger people important to you? 9) Do you teach in any capacity? (Sunday school, college, night school) 10) Have you achieved your dream for your life? 11) Have you given up on or modified your dreams or goals for your life? 12) Have you given up on further advancement at work (ie promotion to management, becoming a VP)? Or are you actively seeking additional advancement? 13) How many close friends do you have? 14) Have you been through what you would consider a "midlife crisis," a turbulent time in your life somewhere around your 40^th birthday?
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TexasCharley Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 30°30'N, 97°45'W, Elv: 597 ft. Posts: 2410 Good Answers: 10	#99 In reply to #95 Find in discussion Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/10/2008 3:28 PM
	Kudos my good man. Kudos indeed. __________________ I never apologize. I'm sorry that's just the way I am.
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Electroman Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunstable, England Posts: 2821 Good Answers: 45	#98 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/10/2008 7:40 AM
	"There are lies, damn lies ... and then statistics!" Nice job Steve, although the number of respondants make the results a bit shakey I guess. John __________________ A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - Googling is far worse!
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BlueAussieBoy Power-User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 451 Good Answers: 16	#100 In reply to #98 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/10/2008 3:47 PM
	"There are lies, damn lies ... and then statistics!" Then there are extrapolations and the world of dodgy decision making. Thanks for the feed back. BAB __________________ Make it so.
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Graebeard Power-User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 239 Good Answers: 9	#101 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/13/2008 2:20 AM
	I guess it's my turn now, 1) Are you male or female? Male, last time I looked 2) What is your age? I feel 30-ish but my birth certificate says I'm 59 3) What country have you spent most of your life in? Canada 4) Do you have children? What ages? 1 son (26) 5) Are you involved with mentoring kids in any way (coaching kids sports, boy scouts, Sunday school, etc)? How often (weekly, monthly?) no 6) At work do you participate in mentoring programs for younger engineers? N/A at my work, but would if I could 7) At work do you enjoy helping younger engineers succeed? Yep 8) Is mentoring younger people important to you? Sharing knowledge with anyone is important 9) Do you teach in any capacity? (Sunday school, college, night school) Taught college - Project Management for a couple of years 10) Have you achieved your dream for your life? Most of them 11) Have you given up on or modified your dreams or goals for your life? I guess we all do. At age 5, I wanted to be a swineherd , in my teens it was to be an astronomer, then later a veterenarian. I wasn't too swift with high school health and biology so that fell through. I finally decided to study engineering and now here I am. 12) Have you given up on further advancement at work (ie promotion to management, becoming a VP)? Or are you actively seeking additional advancement? Not interested in management - love engineering 13) How many close friends do you have? 2 or 3 14) Have you been through what you would consider a "midlife crisis," a turbulent time in your life somewhere around your 40^th birthday? Not what you'd call a midlife crisis, but had a job loss in early 70s when work was scarce and that put a huge strain on the family.
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#102 In reply to #101 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/13/2008 11:00 AM
	"At age 5, I wanted to be a swineherd" I don't think I've ever met (even at this kind of remote) anyone before who wanted this! Congratulations for 'fessing up! I think that rates a... __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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Graebeard Power-User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 239 Good Answers: 9	#104 In reply to #102 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/13/2008 1:31 PM
	Hahaha, LOL I was born in Hungary and my grandparents lived in a little village where I was taken for visits in the summer. Now, picture this. Village square consisted of a central artesian well where everyone came to get their water. My grandpa was the local pharmacist so had his house/pharmacy in this square where, if I climbed up on the fence, I could see all the goings on. One of the things that really appealed to me (as a 5 year old) was watching the older boys (must have been 10 years old!) herding the pigs out to the fields. These guys had little horns made out of cow-horns that they would toot as they passed through the square. You can imagine how this impressed me at that tender age, so I resolved to become like them when I "grew up". ..... One of those silly memories that's fun to share as you get older .....
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Steve S. Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1790 Good Answers: 87	#103 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/13/2008 1:01 PM
	I turned in my paper and made a presentation to the class last night. Seemed to go over well, the prof seemed to like it. Should have the grade back next Tuesday. I'll let you all know what I got...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#105 In reply to #103 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/13/2008 1:31 PM
	A+ (Which should have been in a different, much larger, font but is not, so apparently importing text is still somewhat problematic...) __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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Snaketails Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wrong end of the yellow brick road in Oz Posts: 930 Good Answers: 15	#106 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/17/2008 10:11 PM
	Or is the grade based on the distribution of your graphs, say 50% or greater... so C+ ? __________________ Qn, Whats the differance between a Snake and a Onion? Ans, No one cries when you chop up a Snake
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Bayes The Engineer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 5060 Good Answers: 129	#107 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/18/2008 11:24 PM
	Steve S, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this thread. It was a great idea and well executed. I enjoyed the presentation slides as well. Thanks for doing the work to give us a little bit more insight into the forum we know and love. Roger
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#108 In reply to #107 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 7:42 AM
	Amen to that! Thanks awfully. Cheers, Jim __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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Steve S. Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1790 Good Answers: 87	#109 In reply to #107 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 7:47 AM
	Thanks guys. I should get my grade this evening. I will be sure to let you know how it came out...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#110 In reply to #109 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 8:09 AM
	Well, let the professor know you already got a... __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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TexasCharley Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 30°30'N, 97°45'W, Elv: 597 ft. Posts: 2410 Good Answers: 10	#111 In reply to #107 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 9:11 AM
	Allow me to chime in as well. Truly an insightful and well executed thread. Kudos to you Steve S. Kudos indeed. Charles __________________ I never apologize. I'm sorry that's just the way I am.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#112 In reply to #111 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 9:36 AM
	It's only us, guys from the "sun belt", who voice our appreciation of the result of the survey? At least, it showed to me that I might still be within the standard deviation limits of ....normality. __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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Electroman Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunstable, England Posts: 2821 Good Answers: 45	#113 In reply to #112 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 9:54 AM
	Well I'm definitely not in the sun belt, living in the UK and I have voiced my appreciation of this thread before... Am I normal? or just an invalid data set? John. __________________ A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - Googling is far worse!
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#114 In reply to #113 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 10:21 AM
	Apparently you are a standard deviation... Odd, it's usually a part of the KrisDel Autonomous Group that fits that description! __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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Bayes The Engineer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 5060 Good Answers: 129	#115 In reply to #114 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 10:39 AM
	How about me, can I be a standard deviation too? I mean unless you believe Albany, New York is in the Sunbelt.
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#117 In reply to #115 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:07 AM
	According to MY standards, if you live that far north, it is deviant behavior, so to answer your question, yes, ab-so-loot-lee! __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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MOBI Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1630 Good Answers: 20	#122 In reply to #115 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 3:01 AM
	What's this??? More evidence of global warming!!!!! __________________ TO BE. or NOT TO BE. That is the question!! The Bard
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#116 In reply to #113 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:01 AM
	So I drew a conclusion after reading only the last three posts. And I have published, with aplomb, my conclusions. Am I alone doing this, in the world (including scientific, engineering and medical fields)? __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#118 In reply to #116 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:14 AM
	"...alone doing this, in the world..." Nah, you're in large company there. I've noticed that probably 43%-45% of the people who post here seem to have read three or fewer previous posts before chiming in. The big difference is in the aplomb - the 43-45% I mentioned; I doubt if more than 5 or 6 even know what aplomb means (suspect they think it's the fruit that when dried gives us prunes, which they should be full of...). __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#120 In reply to #118 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:40 AM
	*....I doubt if more than 5 or 6 even know what aplomb means...* Well, me neither. I've got this set of 200 "shocking" words and, when I want to be perceived as having three upper degrees of errudition above my usual, I look up into the dictionary": A plomb (French) - a guy uses, on a string, a lead weight (I suspect that he is a fisherman). Only the vertical position of the wire gives him the confidence that he is right ....angled. __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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Bayes The Engineer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 5060 Good Answers: 129	#119 In reply to #116 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:22 AM
	Hey, I was just happy to finally be in the 95th percentile in something.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#121 In reply to #119 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/19/2008 11:44 AM
	I know the feeling. I am being told that I belong to the less than 50% of the world population...(being male). __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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Steve S. Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1790 Good Answers: 87	#123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 7:22 AM
	Well, I received my grade last night and I made a A, and since I volunteered to be the first presenter (early in the semester) I also received some extra credit.. Again, thanks to all who participated! I really appriciate it.
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Ron Guru Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wisconsin USA Posts: 824 Good Answers: 37	#124 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 7:29 AM
	Good for you! I think that posting here was a great way to do an informal poll. __________________ " Ignorance and arrogance have more in common than their last four letters. "
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Garthh Guru Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mariposa Ca Posts: 5800 Good Answers: 114	#125 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 7:33 AM
	Congratulations
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#126 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 8:21 AM
	Congratulations. That could be a first step in opening a business in psychological treatment of....engineers. I would reserve one of the first tickets. __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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Snaketails Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wrong end of the yellow brick road in Oz Posts: 930 Good Answers: 15	#136 In reply to #126 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/24/2008 10:16 PM
	Before any tickets are issued, we will have to redesign the ticket machine, there is a flaw that when used, you can either cut yourself, or pull it down on top of you, cause no doubt, 1 hand will be holding something, and the spare is trying to remove the ticket from a machine that is not fully secured to a stable surface __________________ Qn, Whats the differance between a Snake and a Onion? Ans, No one cries when you chop up a Snake
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#137 In reply to #136 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 7:23 AM
	Don't delude yourself further, Laddie, tickets shouldn't be needed for the stable surfaces. Just ask one of the other residents... __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#139 In reply to #137 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 9:10 AM
	Is stable surface referred as "not shaking" ? Than a slopped one (say 45°) can qualify as stable if it is not shaking? (a horselaugh) __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#141 In reply to #139 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 9:24 AM
	The table's stable if it's able... __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#138 In reply to #136 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 9:00 AM
	there is a flaw that when used, you can either cut yourself, or pull it down on top of you, cause no doubt, 1 hand will be holding something, and the spare is trying to remove the ticket from a machine that is not fully secured to a stable surface. It seems that you have used that ticket machine but, from your narration of the events, I understand that you haven't follow the right procedure. The humans on this Earth have, by (design) definition two hands, and those ticket machines are built for them. On no account, those who came from other solar systems, should use the spare hand. Everybody knows that doing so, the ticket dispenser might fall down, especially if the "puller" has not an even distribution of coin money in his right and left pockets. __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#140 In reply to #138 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 9:22 AM
	Talk about your ALIENS!!! Hey, can you lend me a hand here, buddy? Lemme see if I can spare ya one! __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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indel Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sour Lake, TX 30°08'59.68"N 94°19'42.81"W Posts: 675 Good Answers: 13	#142 In reply to #140 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 9:54 AM
	I, also, have a little mpg film showing two four handed aliens, but the site didn't accept it __________________ Bridge rule #1: Nobody is as good as he thinks about himself nor as dumb, as his partner thinks...
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#143 In reply to #142 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/25/2008 11:08 AM
	What a loss...hang on to that, 4-handed aliens aren't something you see just every day! __________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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EnviroMan Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gone to Alabama with my banjo on my knee... Posts: 5595 Good Answers: 20	#127 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 8:23 AM
	__________________ Veni, vidi, video - I came, I saw, I got it on film.
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ba/ael Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1212 Good Answers: 74	#128 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 10:17 AM
	Congratulations, Steve. Excellent work. __________________ Bruce
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ky Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Magnetic Island, Queensland, Australia Posts: 3721 Good Answers: 74	#129 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 3:48 PM
	Good work mate. What about the set of knifes or some guitar strings for the extra credit. Ky. __________________ The Twain Has Met
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Nand Participant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	#130 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 4:51 PM
	Congratulations.Steve, It was an exellent brainstorming by diverse group. I also learned from it.
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TexasCharley Guru Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 30°30'N, 97°45'W, Elv: 597 ft. Posts: 2410 Good Answers: 10	#131 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 5:37 PM
	You suck! Horrible effort. What crap! You should be ashamed. I just like being different. cr3 __________________ I never apologize. I'm sorry that's just the way I am.
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Milo Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: "Dancing over the abyss." Posts: 4884 Good Answers: 243	#132 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 9:14 PM
	http://tinyurl.com/3canqh milo __________________ People say between two opposed opinions the truth lies in the middle. Not at all! Between them lies the problem, what is unseeable,eternally active life, contemplated in repose. Goethe
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Vulcan Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern Mindanao, Philippines Posts: 2147 Good Answers: 53	#133 In reply to #123 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/20/2008 10:56 PM
	Bravo! __________________ Miscommunication: when what people heard you say differs from what you said. Make yourself understood.
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suresh sharma Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1983 Good Answers: 25	#134 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/21/2008 4:40 AM
	Congrats Mr.S.Steve, What is your next assignment? Party for all of us? __________________ "Engineers should not look for jobs but should create jobs for others" by Dr.Radhakrishnan Ex President of India during my college graduation day
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MOBI Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1630 Good Answers: 20	#135 Re: Psychology of Engineers 02/21/2008 9:07 PM
	Well done sir....................you done good!!! __________________ TO BE. or NOT TO BE. That is the question!! The Bard
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Anonymous Poster	#144 Re: Psychology of Engineers 03/04/2008 2:27 AM
	Hello everybody, I'm not an engineer (so no answers, pls), but I like to read your posts. And I'm just 36. It is very interesting for me to see your ages, really (some were mentioned or implied before in different posts, but this is like a summary, thank you Steve!), and other things about you. Pls receive my admiration and appreciation for your sharing. I think sometimes words are not enough to describe how helpful you are. Here I'm taking off my hat. :) I'm the one that did post a question about coating on ABS surface while ago. Sorry for not logging in. My time... God bless you all. Mishka
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AC Wing Power-User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 107 Good Answers: 1	#147 Re: Psychology of Engineers 09/13/2008 1:53 AM
	Good job that I do not miss this. Nice survey and interesting study. Thanks! AC Wing.
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Coinneach Associate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kawerau, New Zealand Posts: 25	#149 Re: Psychology of Engineers 09/03/2009 12:14 AM
	1. Male 2. 61 3. New Zealand 4. Yes. 37, 31,27 5. Not now - but used to (Boy Scouts) 6. Yes 7. Yes 8. No 9. No __________________ from the beautiful central North Island of New Zealand.
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