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How to ask a Question on CR4.

05/07/2008 12:43 PM

CR4 is a great community where people, even non members, can ask questions on engineering subjects . however, we are not a community of mind readers, nor an information charity. Help us help you get the answer that you had hoped for by considering the following:

1) Give us information about the application, at the very least what you're trying to do, and where you're trying to do it. If its in the desert, underwater or in antarctica we may need to know that, as opposed to it being operable in our parlor or in our in our mild climate and park like setting....

2) Think 5W 2 H Who What When Where Why How How many.

We know you want one or two of these answered- usually How or how many, but some times Why...So how about giving us some WHat Where When or Who facts for context:

WHAT materials should I consider for the substructure of my envisioned WHAT IT IS Surface to air laser cheese slicer? It will be constructed WHERE (desert, antarctic, on a submarine, in the woods). It will need to withstand the shock of WHAT locally falling slices of cheese from a height of 2 kilometers.

The question you want answered What materials should I use? can now be considered based on application, environmental factors, conditions of use, and consequences of use parameters. Terra cotta is now easy to rule out as a possible substructure based on the facts given.

3) Register! This is a community, and just as your getting an answer is a benefit, so is the satisfaction that you can get when you too will be able to share your expertise. Register so we can tell you apart from the rude guy who also posted using the title"guest", and so that we can evaluate the credibility, Remember- all of us started out with 0 posts and 0 good answers at one time.

4) Have a sense of humor. You know, english is a difficult language for those of us who have it as our first language. If we don't understand you, its not that we're trying to be difficult. Getting concepts across, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT CONTEXTUAL FACTS can be a challenge.

Lighten up.

5) Look at the answering postings as a clue to you to provide more information.

If the first poster says "HUH?" it doesn't mean he doesn't like you, it probably means us clever engineering types have no flippin idea what you are trying to get us to understand. Give us some more info.

Rating such feedback posts as off topic, just shows you to be disrespectful of the amount of sharing that we posters do in this community.

6) If its about hurting some one or taking advantage of someone or their technology please don't ask. As engineers we have an obligation to protect the public we serve.

Dont ask.

Protecting people from flying cheese which is terrorizing the territory or outlying planets is fair game.

7) Your question may already have been answered-You could do a search, go to forum index, or Site glossary to see if your topic has already been discussed.

8) Avoid building in political or feel good assumptions into your question. If your post starts with the sweeping claim along the line that "it is settled science that Lamarckism is the means for creating species," or "all scientists agree that polar bears will be needing sunglasses in the next three years" You can expect many of us to challenge your assumptions, prior to looking at your question. Spare us the politics.

Thanks for asking great Questions.

Anybody know what to do with slightly soiled, somehat distorted cheese slices? They are in North America and the soil appears to be lawn clippings and leaf detritus.

Slices are no longer square, and one side seems to be a somewhat leather like texture due to the laser and cooling turbulence. color is a pale orange.

milo

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Re: How to ask a Question on CR4.

05/07/2008 1:33 PM

I'm not allowed much cheese these days....

Cats duz good kweshuns .

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05/07/2008 2:34 PM

Seems awfully rules-y to me. I think this community does a fine job of filtering questions all by itself. Let's keep things deregulated - free market and all that.

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05/07/2008 2:58 PM

If you're going to introduce these sort of rules for questioners - which I don't agree with.

How about some rules for answering these questions?

Such as read the bleedin question well before answering.... and read what's already been said to see if you're going to just repeat someone else's answer... and so on...

Personally I don't think we need rules, it would take the fun out of being on here, where would it stop?

No off-topic answers? etc...

As the poster above me says keep it free speech we can ignore or answer posts as we individually see fit.

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05/07/2008 3:08 PM

Not Rules, but How about a bit of context?

I agree with you about the Read the bleedin question.

And the thread before you restate what was already said.

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05/07/2008 11:23 PM

After reading the listing, #4 kind of popped out.

There have been some postings from individuals in certain countries who think they are speaking King's English.(No, I will NOT point a finger at any one country, either!)

They are either sadly mistaken, have no idea what they are doing, or aren't engineers in the first place. It also seems they haven't a clue as to the use of something called "Google"!

I've had to deal with a few of these individuals on a college campus--they can be difficult, to put it mildly! Even with a PhD, as many as not speak English like a fertilizer saleman with a mouthful of samples!

I've seen some of these postings, and have asked a few other engineers if they understood what this person was trying to accomplish,and they couldn't find a clue, either.

I DO understand the difficulty with English, managing to muddle along in German and Spanish on occasion, but I see way too many individuals from Europe having little or no problem getting their point across in a concise manner, and providing help in the same manner.

Oh, and one other rule you might want to add to the list: If you start posting in PunkSpeak, e.g., "Can U hlp me plz w/ a prob on--", don't be shocked when nobody here gives a sod what your problem is. Nobody set the bar so high that you can't post in a clear, coherent manner, save that bull for your piss-ant text messages as to which pub you're going get hammered at,or who you're boffing at the office.

And now--I suppose I should put on my Nomex underware, since someone will flame my arse in short order!

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05/08/2008 5:04 AM

And yet, nobody has mentioned the absolutely appalling spelling in both questions and answers!

Perhaps the CR4 'body corporate' could increase the size of the ABC button!

Ah, that reminds me, why are there so many unnecessary screens to acknowledge with that ABC button. Seems gay to me!

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05/09/2008 1:14 AM

Beej50, I'll remember the spelling comment when I see things like 'tyres, calibre, colour, sirup, and let us not forget the classic - aluminium!

Just kidding, mate!

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05/09/2008 3:22 AM

things like 'tyres, calibre, colour, sirup, and let us not forget the classic - aluminium!

Tyres, colour and aluminium, I don't have a problem with. Thats the difference between US English and UK English. Colour is always spelt wrongly in the US but that's OK because they've got bigger guns (I suppose). I don't mind Pearl Harbor being spelt wrongly either as the Americans can spell it how they like as it's theres!

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05/08/2008 12:37 AM

If everyone who wishes to post a question would just follow the "Tips for posting on CR4" that appears after clicking the "Ask a Question" or "Start a Discussion" buttons, then a lot of the problems especially with lack of information and country/origin of the poster would be pared down significantly.

I can understand the occasional language barriers as English is a "difficult" 2nd language at best.

I've only associated myself with CR4 for a short time, but I very much enjoy the way information flows here. Its a more...personal experience.

Please keep it the way it is currently so we won't have to fill out a form to post a question or an answer.

Thank you.

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05/08/2008 4:47 PM

All new users will need to study and past the following tests before their account is activated: "How to ask questions", "How to answer questions", "Basic English", "How to use Google".

Feel few to add other tests.

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05/08/2008 6:28 PM

Hi all,

I think it's difficult to follow this rules, even I have to recognize they are absolutely logic.

But CR4 is a free space and everybody can get into and ask what they want. Most of poor defined questions are posted by non registered "Guests". I'm sure, after reading many posts, that a representative percentage of they aren't engineers. This is not a critic. Just a justification of poor definition.

I think many of you have realize through your professional career that the precise definition (specification) of an item to purchase it, sometimes is unclear, contradictory, etc. and have been written by engineers.

Here in Spain we have a sentence which says more or less in English: "Be careful with that you ask,... you may get it".

And another I like: "Perfect is enemy of Good".

And don't forget the amusement of reading our bad English and the Sherlock Holmes activity of trying to understand what this bloody guest may have mean?

Be patient and smile

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05/08/2008 6:34 PM

I agree Kwetz..... we all have to be tolerant of foreign languages or different engineers etc...

I have been guilty of posting a question which is not in my specialty and so it appears out og place to others...

But at the same time their answers have made me aware of what I should be looking to ask, and so I can re-ask the question better next time etc...

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05/08/2008 8:19 PM

Hmmmmmm.......

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05/09/2008 8:26 AM

Great Teacher Milo

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No Nonsense Milo

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Follow Milo to his last commandment--

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05/09/2008 2:21 PM

WOW!

I am humbled.

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05/11/2008 4:08 AM

Milo, I am sorry, but I have to agree with you. However for the benefit of the other children who think that these are rules should learn some common courtesy.

Some of the folks asking questions are trying to protect, let say a patent. Fine who cares, I do not care where your going to shove your widget. I will help to make sure it works when you do. Do what was taught to us in graded school. The 5 double u's. (for you that missed that year Who, what, when, where, hoW) Lets get back to them.

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