WATER WELL IN MS DELTA

I can't read the opening post....!!!!

have you tried using paragraphs or other forms of spacing / punctuation??

Raising the mouth off the well. - It might work but the water could as well overflow into another path and you may loose volume. You should rather contact a local person to assist you with that.

Your water supply may be due to a deposited layer of silt preventing the loss of water. going down you might damage this layer.

You may consider a siphon to "pump" the water closer to the field.

I think I saw a field size of 1/2 an acre but the capital letters make it hard to read. I would thumb suck a flow of 0.4 l/s.

THANKS FOR REPLY. I'VE BEEN GIVING SOME SECOND THOUGHT MYSELF TO GOING DEEPER FOR FEAR OF STOPPING THE FLOW.

IF IT WOULD RISE JUST 5 OR 6 FEET ABOVE THE WELL'S GROUND LEVEL THAT WOULD BE HIGH ENOUGH FOR IT TO GRAVITY FEED ITSELF TO THE GARDEN via PVC PIPE.

Hello

Just a polite note. Using all caps is considered shouting and is normally taken as rude in these forums. Additionally it is very hard to read. You will probably get a better response from people if you use normal case lettering.

Respectfully,

Doug

SORRY DOUG, i'm in habit of caps so i can see it better plus my typing skills pre date fire; i hunt & peck which is slow.

if your vision is bad and you need bigger text try:

using control + it makes the text larger. control - makes it smaller.

also, moving the water 5 feet higher is very easy for a pump. it doesn't even take much of a pump. ask down at the hardware store.

you are very lucky to have an artesian well. i would not mess with it myself.

good luck.

Hi LAWMAN662

In SA law the heading are mostly in caps, but since headings and explanatory notes are not used for interpretation my eyes are not trained to read them.

Please give more (or clearer) detail regarding the water supply and point where it is required. A syphon may do the trick for you.

What is the static difference between the source and the field?

Are there higher points in between?

A sketch may be handy.

Also give an indication of your water requirements. Crop etc

I can imagine the crop requirements in Dallas but have no clue what it could be at your site. Maybe you could google for Cropwat and find a value.

ground where the well head is now is 3 or 4 feet below the garden area. if i ca raise the well head higher than that i can have a small collection tank with 1 or 2 field lines going to garden since water would then be gravity feed flowing slightly "down hill". then no need for pump, electricty, etc.

Hi,

rusty water is more healthy for humans and animals as we are depleted of iron.

So its taste may be ??? but use ok. Do a bacteriological analysis, surface water ducts are often contaminated, not only bacteriological but also from fertilisers and chemical stuff from once existing factories.

The poison gas factories in Europe (WW1) are now slowly cleared!

Connect a flexible tube and rise until flow stops.

If at suitable elevation the flow is good then make a total passive system, else try a windmill type pump.

If there is too much iron in the water your plants wont like it, then you have to do de-ironing: bubble the water in a pond with blown in air and remove the iron-hydroxides with a sand filter (big sized). May be adding dolomite to the filter will improve hardness and mineral content to useful levels.

RHABE

We had problem here in Mumbai in India.Earlier we tried to bore well but water did not appear at 150'- 200'. Some one suggested us to dig open well of 4-5' dia. Here it is not expensive to dig open well, so tried this and at 15'-20' we got lot of water. May be we have many underground springs.We covered the open well and installed a pump. Now no problems of water etc.

It is not that hard to drill a well without spending a ton of money. I helped a neighbor build a drilling rig and although it took us a few days we got it down to around 50 ft by hand. One thing you should note that this will not work on rocky soil though. We did this in south Alabama and there was only sand and clay. You will need to build a tripod with a pulley to pick it up and let it down and preferably a small winch although it can be done by hand. We used 2" black iron pipe cut into 10 foot lengths threaded on each end and a home made auger head with a small nozzle fashioned on the end. We hooked a garden hose to the top of each 10 piece when drilling and the water sprayed out the nozzle in the well to assist in drilling and to float the debris out of the top of the well. As you work the drill down into the well just add another 10ft section and reattach the hose. I made a clamp on handle that two men could work the drill stem back and fourth and it could be moved up as the drill stem drilled down. This will work pretty good on shallow wells and I have seen it done more than once. If you can fashion a weight to attach to the stem it will go faster. A trash pump will also be needed from time to time in removing the debris that settles. If you want to go deeper and/or do it easier and you know some one who has a Rigid pipe threader that you can borrow it is truly amazing how well it works. The pipe threaders have high torque and they have a gripping mechanism built on to assist in letting the pipe feed down into the well as needed. I helped a elevator repairman drill a 8" diameter hole 60 ft deep to accommodate a hydraulic cylinder once with the only the elevator carriage, a winch, pipe, auger head and a pipe threader.

pipewelder

Thanks for all the input.

I'm going to make use of the well as is by raising the opening a few feet above ground level and, if it still freely flows water, divert the water into a pvc line and let gravty carry it to my garden.

LAWMAN662:

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i have had a ram pump before. they do not work unless you have a good strong flow, and at least 10 feet of head. i had the head and not the flow, so had to trade it in on a solor pump.

That actually sounds like the preferable solution if it works. As already mentioned, drilling more could spoil what you have. You don't need a whole lot of extra elevation; it's not like you want a faster flow, just a steady one. Gravity not only works well, but it works 24/7 too!

Just some thoughts that might be helpful. The weighted string might be hitting an obstruction in the middle of a longer pipe. (dislodged rock, rust build up at a joint etc)

There are companies that can hook up to the pipe coming out of the ground and test the volume of water available.from the well. By knowing the available water before might allow some better decisions. If the water flow is only 20 gals per hour, you do not need large pipe. Likewise if the flow is 800 gals per min., it might be worth pumping to other areas of the farm. Good luck.

May be worth your while to ask plumber to run a camera through the casing.

I just looked at a Rigid brand small fiber optic camera made for looking in piping. My buddy here at the mill bought one for a few hundred bucks and it works very good. It would be perfect for looking in a well casing. I was surprised to see that Rigid makes and sells one of these and they have really came down in price in the last couple of years. I bet there is a plumber in your area that already has one.

pipewelder

see at B&H photo $96.50 USD