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The Faster the PC, the Slower the Response (if it Doesn't Hang Forever)

02/18/2009 8:57 PM

On the old DOS Windows 3 and Windows 95, we, the PC users, were spoiled: we had an instant response to every click of the keyboard and mouse, and even took it for granted.

Back then, computers were about 1000 to 10,000 times slower, yet, miraculously, they were much more responsive than today's super-fast beasts.

Today, you click your mouse, wait and wonder: when will it respond, will it respond or hang ?

Today, you close your Windows and wonder: Will it close, when will it close ?

If you are fed-up waiting for your windows to obey you and finally power down, and dare to forcefully press the power down button of the PC, you are left wondering: will it still function the next time you power up the system, or will you have to format and re-install Windows and all the other applications and peripherals ?

Are we all being made fun of ?

Aren't we ?

Could someone explain this in clear-cut, non-apologetic terms?

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02/19/2009 7:24 PM

And they say that's progress!

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02/19/2009 11:31 PM

I guess it is due to Bloated programming, i the old days people had to program in machine language and had to understand each component in the device, but these days using compilers and the excess of computer power and memory the programmers have become lazy in removing the unnecessary fat from a program, also some OS start a lot of unnecessary processes that use a lot of resources

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02/20/2009 9:35 AM

Hello Epke,

Hope you are fine?..................................

You have hit the nail on the head! There is just too much going on we know nothing about unless we look when we are scewed like I am now......................

I am gradually losing the will to live!!!

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02/20/2009 9:54 AM

Hi Bear

What's the memory capacity of your computer? Sometimes when it's overloaded it'll switch to safe mode (windows uses a lot of memory)...especially in 98.

If you have a lot of processes running and/or add-ons this might also cause your problem.

To shut off the add-ons go to Internet Explorer and...you might want to try the last paragraph in the below.

Web browser add-ons: what you need to know

Web browser add-ons add features (for example, extra toolbars, animated mouse pointers, stock tickers, and pop-up ad blockers) to your web browser.

Where do add-ons come from?

Many add-ons come from the Internet. Most add-ons from the Internet require that you give your permission before they are downloaded to your computer. Some, however, might be installed without your knowledge. This can happen if the add-on was part of another program that you installed. Some add-ons are installed with Microsoft Windows.

How can I see which add-ons are installed?

To see all installed add-ons

  1. In Internet Explorer, click the Tools button, click Manage Add-ons, and then click Enable or Disable Add-ons.
  2. In the Show box, select one of the following options:
    • To display a complete list of the add-ons that reside on your computer, click Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer.
    • To display only those add-ons that were needed for the current webpage or a recently viewed webpage, click Add-ons currently loaded in Internet Explorer.
    • To display add-ons that were pre-approved by Microsoft, your computer manufacturer, or a service provider, click Add-ons that run without requiring permission.
    • To display only 32-bit ActiveX controls, click Downloaded ActiveX Controls (32-bit).

There are several add-ons in this list that I did not install. How did they get on my computer?

For your protection, Internet Explorer asks permission before running an add-on for the first time, letting you know if a website is secretly trying to run malicious code. However, to create a better web experience, Internet Explorer has a list of pre-approved add-ons that have been checked and digitally signed. Add-ons in this list are run without displaying the permissions dialog. The add-on list can come from Microsoft, your computer manufacturer, your Internet Service provider (if you are using a private branded version of Internet Explorer), or your corporations network administrator. To see the pre-approved add-ons that are installed on your computer, do this:

To view pre-approved add-ons

  1. In Internet Explorer, click the Tools button, click Manage Add-ons, and then click Enable or Disable Add-ons.
  2. In the Show list, click Add-ons that run without requiring permission.
  3. You will now see a list of all pre-approved add-ons. When you are finished looking at the list, click OK.

What can I do if I think an add-on is causing trouble?

Add-ons are typically fine to use, but sometimes they force Internet Explorer to shut down unexpectedly. This can happen if the add-on was created for an earlier version of Internet Explorer or has a programming error.

Here's what you can do:

  • Disable it. If an add-on causes repeated problems, you can disable it through the Add-on Manager.
  • Report it. When prompted, you might want to report the problem to Microsoft. The report is anonymous and requires nothing from you except your permission. These reports are used to improve our products and to encourage other companies to update and improve theirs.

How can I disable a browser add-on?

Before you disable a browser add-on, keep in mind that some webpages, or Internet Explorer itself, might not display properly if an add-on is disabled. We recommend that you only disable an add-on if it repeatedly causes Internet Explorer to close.

To permanently disable add-ons

  1. In Internet Explorer, click the Tools button, click Manage Add-ons, and then click Enable or Disable Add-ons.
  2. In the Show list, click Add-ons that have been used by Internet Explorer to display all add-ons.
  3. Click the add-on you want to disable, and then click Disable.
  4. Repeat step 3 for every add-on you want to disable. When you are finished, click OK.

Follow the steps below to run Internet Explorer with all add-ons temporarily disabled. Add-ons will be disabled only until you restart Internet Explorer normally.

To temporarily disable all add-ons

  • In Windows, click Start, click All Programs, click Accessories, click System Tools, and then click Internet Explorer (No Add-ons).

Note

  • You can also start Internet Explorer with out add-ons by right-clicking the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop and then clicking Start Without Add-ons.
  • If you find that disabling all add-ons solves the problem you were having, you might want to disable the add-ons permanently by disabling each one individually by following the steps below.
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02/20/2009 6:06 PM

Hello Ducky,

GA to you sir

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02/20/2009 10:30 AM

My money is on your comments.

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02/20/2009 10:43 AM

Hello Andy, how you doing?

My money is on your comments.

I'm not making any comments so there!

No, I have checked and I was running with no 'allowed' add-ons. But a whole lot of add-ons which do not need permission!

I am going to make a written note what add-ons I have under the various classes, then stop all and add each back. So I need to keep a note of exactly where I am otherwise I am lost............a bit like now!

With talk to you soon Andy, thanks for the post.

Take care..................................

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02/20/2009 10:48 AM

I'd stop them all from running. You can always selectively switch them back on.

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02/20/2009 10:51 AM

I'd also suggest that in the event you installed Service Pack 3 that you uninstall it.

It's just so much crap anyway.

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02/20/2009 1:06 PM

Hello Ducky,

Just to say that I am taking what you say into account in regard to what I change etc. I wasn't aware there was so many add-ons. Particularly one that run anyway without asking for permission.

Can I ask you..........If I disable them. Will the list still be there for me to enable one by one?

And the only reason I am working in safe mode is because I cannot get on-line in normal mode. Have you or anyone got any ideas as to how I can get the HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP running again?

Take care.........................

I am not thinking to straight so having a nose round seeing what the latest news is from the CR4 crowd. When my mind gets back in gear I will continue with wire's and your advice.

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02/20/2009 1:33 PM

Yes.....you can selectively re-engage the add-ons later. I find they slow my internet connection and cause the system to hang.

Windows Explorer has a step by step easy way to do it. I just open up the browser(s) and go to tools.......click manage add ons........click off.

Do you have a boot disc?

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02/20/2009 2:37 PM

Hello Ducky,

As I say the ones I can turn off I have done so for the last two years.

And if anything needs something from the disabled list it will tell me anyway?

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02/20/2009 4:12 PM

Those are just browser add-ons and in no way have anything directly to do with your bios or os.

I find many of them allow for pop-ups to appear. Some of the pop-up graphics are virus/malware programs that are engaged when clicking on their 'close' features. If you get them press 'ctrl/alt/delete' to get rid of them. This is something differrent than what you're experiencing but might have been the result of a boot sector virus.

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02/20/2009 5:48 PM

Hello Ducky,

are you OK?............................

I will have to do that tomorrow. I want to make a list and can actually save the info of the add-ons to one of my many usb sticks. I can then take it to the local Library and print it.

Thank you for your help and support sort of more than paid me back for any help I may have been. I know when you were stuck there was overwhelming help, and just to know someone is there is all the help you need right? Thank you my friend. Thank you very much.

Take care.....................

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02/20/2009 6:08 PM

Yeah, thanks for asking....my system is running better than it ever did. The help was well appreciated though very confusing at first. Much of the solution to my problem was in fact courtesy your info. I only wish I could reciprocate likewise.

I know how frustrated you must feel.

Have you tried adjusting your graphics? eg 'run in 256 colours'.......sometimes it tweaks the system to get out of safe mode.

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02/20/2009 6:39 PM

Hello Ducky,

Pleased to hear your system is A1!. And believe me you have more than been a watcher. You have definitely helped. Thanks.

You mentioned: Have you tried adjusting your graphics? eg 'run in 256 colours'.......sometimes it tweaks the system to get out of safe mode.

What a luxury! I am often barely in mono colour let alone 256 colours! How can I adjust the graphics when I only have an onboard graphics card now? I could do it when I had ATI. Bit I don't anymore. I have a driver of ATI but, that was on the off chance I may find some software for the graphics card I have. Last time I went to ATI for drivers my board was so old I don't think it was mentioned.............

Can you adjust the graphics colours via the Desktop properties?

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02/20/2009 6:54 PM

Can you adjust the graphics colours via the Desktop properties?

yes...!!

Also...if old computer don't install any new drivers. I take it you're running 98? or XP?

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02/20/2009 6:13 PM

Bear....you can get those add-ons anytime from the browser...whether it be Yahoo, or Google or whatever.

I had two switchable browsers full of junk that used up a lot of memory and slowed my internet connection to a crawl.

Soon's I disabled them I am amazed at the speed this thing gets on the net.

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02/20/2009 6:44 PM

Hello Ducky,

I will do that tomorrow. I want to get some kind of list of the things I have so I can tell whether someone is offering me a genuine add-on or trying a scam sometime in the future.

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02/22/2009 7:58 PM

Hello Ducky,

I have gotten rid of all but a couple which are being asked for by yahoo. Thank you.

My next move is to try and re-lease the DHCP licence which has fallen by the wayside. Are you having more problems with your HDD? Or am I getting things totally wrong?

Take care..............

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02/19/2009 11:51 PM

I have a Palm Tungsten E2 that responds instantly, like to old days. Unfortunately, Palm just announced that they are no longer going to support that operating system. I have found that MS Word and MS Excel 2000 run FASTER on my old, slower Win 98 machine than the exact same programs loaded into my Vista machine. I think there may be a conspiracy out there to restrict our productivity...

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02/20/2009 12:03 AM

For Windows XP

  • Click the Start button and select Run.
  • Type msconfig and click Ok.

If your computer is in Normal Startup do the following:

  • Click the Selective Startup button.
  • Uncheck the Load Startup items (or Load Startup Group items) box.
  • Select the Services tab and check Hide all Microsoft services.
  • Click Disable all.
  • Click Apply and Close.
  • Restart the computer when prompted.
  • Once restarted, if the system configuration window appears, close the window. Select No to restarting if prompted.

If your computer is set for Selective Startup do the following:

  • Click the Startup tab at the top.
  • Make a note of the items that have checkmarks next to them.
  • Select Disable all.
  • Go to the Services tab and check Hide all Microsoft services.
  • Make a note of the services that have checkmarks next to them.
  • Click Disable all.
  • Click Apply and Close.
  • Restart the computer when prompted.
  • Once restarted, if the system configuration window appears, close the window. Select No to restarting if prompted.

If the program is working fine then it can be concluded that some of the background applications running in the system were causing the issue.

To identify the program that is conflicting with the program follow the steps given below:

  1. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig and click Ok.
  2. Click the Startup tab and click Enable all. If the computer was in Selective startup enable the items that correspond to the items noted earlier.
  3. Click the Services tab, check the option Hide all Microsoft Services.
  4. Click Enable all. If the computer was in Selective startup enable the items that correspond to the services noted earlier.
  5. Uncheck one of the services from the list.
  6. Click Apply, click Close and restart the computer when prompted.
  7. Play the game and test the performance.

Conclusions

  • If the issue is resolved, the service disabled above (step 5) is the cause of the issue. To play the game you must disable this software.
  • If the issue is still unresolved then uncheck a different service from the list and repeat steps 1 to 7.

If the issue is still not resolved check for Start up items which may be conflicting with the game.

  1. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig and click Ok.
  2. Click the Services tab and click Enable all. If the computer was in Selective startup enable the items that correspond to the services noted earlier.
  3. Click the Startup tab and click on Enable All. If the computer was in Selective startup enable the items that correspond to the items noted earlier.
  4. Uncheck one of the startup items from the list.
  5. Click Apply, click Close and restart the computer.
  • Play the game and test the performance. If the issue doesn't occur, this confirms that the particular service running on the system is causing issue.
  • If the issue occurs, check the startup item unchecked in the previous attempt.
  • Uncheck another startup item and repeat the steps 1 to 5.

If the above steps do not help to resolve the issue, follow the steps given below to, revert the changes made in your System Configuration Utility (msconfig):

  1. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig and click Ok.
  2. Click the Startup tab and click Enable all. If the computer was in Selective startup enable the items that correspond to the services noted earlier.
  3. Click the Services tab, check the option Hide all Microsoft Services.
  4. Click Enable all or enable the items that correspond to the items noted earlier.
  5. Click Apply, click Close.
  6. Restart the computer when prompted.

For Windows 2000

  1. Hold down the Ctrl and Alt keys on the keyboard.
  2. Briefly press Delete and then release the other keys.
  3. Click the Task Manager button.
  4. Click the Applications tab at the top.
  5. For each item listed in the task list:
    1. Click the item to select it.
    2. Click End Task.
  6. Repeat the above steps until the task list is empty.
  7. Close the Windows Task Manager screen.
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02/20/2009 7:22 AM

Hello wire,

how are you? You have been busy, and it must have taken a while! Thank you. I am just reading it first and then with run through it after I copy it. Copy by hand as I do not have a printer, Though I may treat myself to one as it will be useful on the reinstall. I will go through what you have written. I can see some stuff I have gone though before but, I will run it all again because things change and it is not the same computer as before it crashed!

I have been using the safe mode for various diagnostic things. I found some thing, apps and Microsoft stuff which has 'damaged' along side it. One of those is the DHCP. I know it was corrupted by a Trojan just before the crash but was still working. I think it is too damaged to work now as I can no longer get on-line in normal mode. I am not sure or can't recall which services work on the different socket layers but it seems reasonable to figure the DHCP could be the connection in normal mode problem?

I am going to start writing this down. Thanks for doing this for me!

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02/20/2009 9:17 AM

Hello wire,

I have written all the post you sent giving detail instructions.

I actually sped a good deal of time in and around what you was explaining, but, was reluctant to >>> disable all <<< because I could not see a way of starting them again!!!!!!!!!!

My main problem is not being able to work on the web in normal mode, because the DNS or DHCP, and I do not know what works on which socket layer.

I get this error when I run a connection check in normal mode:

[Check firewall settings for:

1) HTTP port 80.

2) HTTPS port 443.

3) FTP port 21] .............................................

…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

I put these ports in the 'Exceptions' section of the firewall, to try to let everything see each other. I can't recall how to check if these are still on the exceptions list or not. I have tried but, am not certain that these were removed when it made no different to the connection. And I want them removed. As they effectively give cart blanch to anyone wanting to get to the computer.

It is going to have to be short today wire…………..(wire goes, thank god for that!!!!) as it has crashed three times as I was typing this and I lost each post.

Thank mate!........................

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02/20/2009 9:22 AM

Try turning your firewall off as a test. If you have a router you may not need it

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02/20/2009 9:31 AM

Hello rlindey:

Thank you for your support! Will do. I got no instructions with my router/modem, but am pretty sure it said something about a firewall. There is definately something stopping window doing its thing with regard to the firwall. Unfortunately I have not been able to find the firewall 'billoin' site with the problems I have been having.

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02/23/2009 2:36 AM

Hello babybear,

I've been skimming this subthread where you've described your ordeals. Excuse me if I repeated what someone has said already.

I agree with what bwire said of using your ADSL modem as router.

Babybear, for most cases as ordinary user (i'm one too) you needn't to make any ecxeption for your firewall's options unless:

(1) your desktop is itself a host(router) which delivers resolved addresses to home-network subdued machines;

(2) You're using virtual machine software installed on your OS and you're wishing to get online from within these virtual(guest) machines. It just the same as described in (1).

(3) Your desktop is itself stand alone web(http) server or ftp server. If you're owner of static IP address or if you participate in peering networks' projects it would be so.

If all (1)(2)(3) not about your case you're diggings in wrong places.

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ps Is it a great problem to reinstall XP?

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02/23/2009 10:35 AM

Hello caramba,

I understand what you say, and put the 'exceptions about the connection on the firewall just to test if it was the firewall which was stopping the contact.

I am still going through things sorting them out. And I will be getting in touch with my ISP to ask about a 'connection specific IP'? I have always had a static IP. All fully understood my friend, thank you!

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02/23/2009 10:57 AM

Here's nothing specific new you'd get from your ISP.

ISP has to deliver:

(1) Physical connection to your ADSL modem.

(2) Logical connection over physical connection.

(3) Assign static(dynamic) IP address to your modem.

(4) Declared(subscribed) connection speed.

Items from (1) to (3) had been delivered to say the least. You have IP address resolved through DNS of your provider. Otherwise you simply shouldn't be avail get on-line. On my opinion here's nothing to discuss with ISP.

Btw I couldn't grasp. Is your modem a router or bridge?

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  • Click Start
  • Click Run
  • Type or copy and paste, into the text box:

%windir%\ie7\spuninst\spuninst.exe

  • Then Press Enter **
  • Restart your computer.
  • Install the fresh version of Internet Explore.
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03/01/2009 11:47 PM

Hi wire,

Thanks for the link/instruction. If I do this I get a warning that some programs will not work without Explorer.

Does this copy paste thing take the old one of and replace it with the new one? Sorry mate. I was about to order the explorer CD when I saw your post.

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02/20/2009 2:17 PM

Hi wire,

are you OK?...............

I have started some of the checks you list. But really want to get the HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP running first.

I am chilling and waiting until my mind gets back in gear, then I will continue. But if there was an easy way to get on-line in normal mode it would make things easier. Any ideas? I do not understand why I can get updates and go on-line in safe mode but not in normal?

Microsoft could not tell me, and my ISP can't help either.

I need to unload the damaged items and replace them with stuff from the microsoft CD.

I have just done a Networks Diagnostics scan.

There is no DHCP servers listed,!

OE failed, because the outbound mail server failed.

Network addapter failed because WINS Server failed

Take care.........................

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02/20/2009 10:22 PM

Hello bb,

Got to Internet Option under the Advanced tab enable the protocols etc..

You will find this very interesting:

http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/monitoring-publicservices.html

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02/20/2009 6:08 PM

Hello wire,

GA to you sir!

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02/23/2009 4:42 PM

Great advice here, to all, but the first procedure that bwire wrote completely solved my issues!!!

My 'puter slowed to a crawl over the weekend. The page would almost completely load, but I would have to wait, sometimes a full minute before I could do anything. It seemed to be taking forever to load something called "doubleclick.net". I went online and to remove this adware, I tried many malware programs, and it never showed up. I found a procedure that required delving into the registry.

Well, I tried bwire's XP procedure, and it seems to be back to normal. I'm sure I still might have that doubleclick thingy, but it doesn't seem to be a problem now.

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02/24/2009 4:11 AM

"...something called "doubleclick.net". I went online and to remove this adware, I tried many malware programs, and it never showed up..." - That's because it's initialised by a cookie.

And it's a spyware not an adware, by the way. It takes up a lot of CPU-cycles and modem bandwidth, sending out a lot of your info - without your permission.

One would think that by wiping the cookie they got rid of the sucker, and it's true - once the cookie is deleted the responsiveness wakes up - but the problem is that every time you visit a website harboring "doubleclick", you get this cookie once more.

Blocking all third-party cookies* might block the sucker, but deny you of other useful site-preference cookies.

Blocking this specific cookie might just be presenting a possible remedy to this PC-slowing spyware.

Any ideas ?

* - Start > Control-Panel > Internet Options > Privacy Tab > Setting - Medium High

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02/24/2009 6:26 AM

Blocking all third-party cookies* might block the sucker, but deny you of other useful site-preference cookies.

I do this thru the following dialogue box, and CR4 works fine ;

Sorry, crap picture. Snapshot is Internet options>Privacy Tab> Advanced. You may not be able to see it, but settings are as you say (block 3rd party). Seems to be keeping doubleclick out.

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02/24/2009 7:48 PM

A cookie is not the execution code, but a kind of a 'short-cut' calling for one to be executed, once you enter their hosting-site. The cookie calls for the code to be loaded directly into your RAM from the site, so the code never leaves a sort of a "paper-trail" on your hard-disk - which is what makes this system seem so benign.

They were originally designed to maintain your personal preferences on websites you re-visited, but soon (around 1999 ~ 2000) they started to call for data-mining codes, which significantly slows your PC.

What made cookies so benign-looking and widely accepted as such, is that they seem harmless, and are written in *.txt format for every one to open and read, but in fact they call for Java and ActiveX codes, today more malicious than ever before - forcing your computer from the outside - to perform all kinds of tasks - without your knowledge or approval.

Their being TSR programs, residing only in RAM, is why they are so hard to uproot from your PC - they are being loaded directly to your RAM (thus also reducing your available RAM space required for routine work), do their job, an then simply wipe themselves out - leaving not trail behind except for an innocent-looking cookie - hardly ever associated by the user, to the execution-code.

In cases like DoubleClick, the cookie is re-written in your cookie-jar, every time you visit a site, which harbor them. So there, it's a kind of a package-deal - You want the site ? Accept the cookie and it's code too

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Path of cookie-jar:
C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Cookies
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02/25/2009 1:39 AM

You want the site ? Accept the cookie and it's code too

True enough, but is it such a bad thing ? Even if it is, you can't easily change somebody elses 'rules of the house'. As far as I can see, CR4 don't have a published P3P policy, but you can see their cookies (and the blocked doubleclick hopefully), by clicking on "Page" >> "Web page privacy policy" (right hand side of bar where tabs are in IE7) . Here comes another badly sized picture ;

There's no such thing as privacy online, and even the smartest hacker can't escape that fact. Here's one example of privacy compromise.

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02/25/2009 1:52 AM

"...There's no such thing as privacy online..." - Alas, that's so true.

As for the picture size displayed here:

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The CR4 editor will allow a maximal size in both horizontal and vertical dimensions.

Try to cut your object alone - without the surrounding field.

A square picture will get the most out of these limited dimensions

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02/25/2009 2:05 AM

Ta, I've sense the re-sizing arrows in CR4's editor screen, but seem to be messing up when I screen capture to paint. Odd thing is, I used to do this OK. That's probably a whole different chat, so I shall experiment a little. The editor doesn't always like being pasted into direct, though it usually works. As I recall, Mark (mgaulin) said it was a security issue. Maybe this diversion is not so OT after all !

Too many pictures seem to be problematic for some peoples computer speed, and I've seen some horrendous threads full of pictures spread across the screen. Left-right scrolling drives me nuts, and it forces text posts below to do the same. Chris L did mention once that he'd deal with theses occasions as/when people let him know. Iv'e done a fair number of 'White box with a red x's. Thing is, it's not immediately apparent that this has occured - Im sure their have been occasions when I've seen the picture OK when viewed in thread, but after the 15 minute time-out it's all gone.

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02/25/2009 4:27 AM

Maybe instead of MS Paint, you could use "ImagePals". It's an old Windows 3 program, but very, very good for one-layer bitmaps. It handles all kinds of photo formats and bitmap types, and as old as it is, it's not limited to any file-size.

You can edit giant photos, way beyond 100 Mega Byte each.

One of the most intuitive photo programs I have ever used

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I still use it today, and yes, it has that Gamma tone-correction, besides a lot of other stuff.

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Cheers, I'll check it out.

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02/25/2009 2:46 PM

I use Photo Plus from Serif Software. I click on Edit > Paste as new image to bring in the item. Then when I'm through editing, I export it as a jpg file.

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It is no longer available or supported - for more than ten years by now.

You can download it at:

http://rapidshare.com/files/202575627/IMAGEPAL.rar

1. unpack the RAR file into "IMAGEPAL" directory

2. the serial number (installation-key) is inside "IMAGEPAL" and written in "SERIAL.txt"

3. do not change the "IMAGEPAL" directory name, and hit "INSTALL.exe" (changing the directory name will fail installation)

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02/26/2009 2:12 AM

A few initial tips:

And yes, clicking the left-hand buttons are about the current brush (mouse) mode, while double-clicking those would adjust the sensitivity (or other parameters) of each. The top right corner circle is the type and width of the brush.

The Zoom button:

Right-clicking on a picture in the zoom mode will set the pic at 1:1, while left-clicking will enlarge. Shift+left-click will reduce. If your picture is spread to fill and enlarged beyond Imagepals space (1), a little embossed rectangle (2) will appear bottom-right called "global-viewer". Drag it to view across the picture (3).

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If you hit "Print-Screen" on the keyboard, you can save it from the clipboard to a file in any format you like, the best for web uses is of course JPG (fastest upload):

And, yes: it's a Windows 3 program: it can only give the DOS-6 filenames: 8-charcter capitals+3 character extension eg: "FILENAME.ext"

It has only one "Undo" step-back, so you better save every branching process-version, then choose the best you like.

Most top-left-hand buttons are selection tools, and the top-most is the "Magic-Wand" which is an automatic tone and texture selection tool. Double-click the button to set the tone-depth sensitivety of the tool:

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02/26/2009 10:12 PM

Hello Kris, Hope you are OK?

It is taking me ages to go through the 40 emails I got today. It is freezing up on almost everyone as I try to reply.

I have put a shortcut on the desktop of the BBC thing so I can look at it and other stuff which looked interesting on the site. At the moment I have no sound which is why I left a shortcut to go back to later.

Thanks Kris..............

Take care..................

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02/27/2009 2:10 AM

Hi babybear,

The link is not radically new; it's just about how devices like blackberry can be used to track people, and the potential for misuse (eg, an employer might hand out devices to employees, without them knowing they are being tracked). There are worse risks in the big bad world. For example, data-sticks and mp3 players left in public places for the unaware to pick up thinking they've found something really cool- until they plug it into their pc etc etc.

I figured you'd be really busy at present, but will detail you more when your computer is playing nicer. That lock-up/slow-response thing must be a nightmare. When I've re-read some of your stuff I'll post you a brief message over the weekend to see how it's going.

Don't let the evil computer get you down, I have faith you'll win out over it.

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02/27/2009 8:38 PM

Hi Kris,

Nice post my friend, thank you! As long as I can somehow get on-line it rarely bothers me. ......The freezing I mead. When it does make me angry, though there is no sense in any anger as it will do no good, is when I loose a long typed letter or post. Where I can I save each letter every paragraph. Doesn't alway work but at least I have something left to continue to work with and finish and send, hoping it will arrive!

Take care Kris, look forward to any correspondence from friends ! Thank you.

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02/28/2009 2:26 AM

Frozen mead might be good in some sort of sorbet

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02/28/2009 6:42 PM

Hi Kris,

Frozen mead might be good in some sort of sorbet

How you doing?.............Can I just say that this remark looks like something you would see in a Russian Spy Novel!....... It could mean:

The icecream truck will 'pickup' the 'drop' tonight at 'mead/(midnight)', the 'sorbet' (money) will be in the icecream!

OK, so I don't have a good imagination, but 'out of context' your phrase looks very odd. I would not surprised if you get a 'visit' from MI5 tonight!

Take care....................

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It is freezing in the early hours, but March will bring forth blossom, and squirrels shall dance by night.

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02/24/2009 8:12 PM

A quote from:

http://forums.spybot.info/archive/index.php/t-577.html

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I cannot help you with Firefox but I may be able to with IE and doubleclick. I suspect that the two issues you mentioned are not connected. Try this:

1) Assuming you have XP sp2, in IE go to Tools, Internet Options, Privacy, Sites. Then type doubleclick.com and hit Block, then type doubleclick.net and hit Block again, then Ok and OK again. You should not see cookies from either of those sites again as IE will block them outright. This will also delete the cookies from those sites that may be there already. Make sure that you spell the sites correctly.

2) Mouse Issue: I suspect this is not connected with the cookies. Links always open with one complete click however programs can be set to open with one or two clicks, i.e., a double click. Open My Computer, Tools, Folder Options, and under the General Tab make sure the "Double-click to open an item" is selected and hit OK.

Let us know if that helps. If not someone else may have a suggestion..."

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02/24/2009 8:16 PM

Thank you Yuval. I'll do that.

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Hello Bricktop,

Glad to help...

DoubleClick Removal Instructions

Before you can delete files, you must first stop all the DoubleClick processes that are running in memory.
Do this by ending all processes from the Task Manager.
Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE to open the Windows Task Manager. If you see multiple
"tabs," click on the "Processes" tab. For each process that you would like
to kill, find the process name in the list, click it to select it, and click
the "End Process" button.



Delete registry values Instructions:
Open the Windows Registry Editor by clicking on the Windows "Start" button,
clicking "Run," and typing "regedit" into the box in the Window that appears. Click "OK".
Once the Registry Editor is open, navigate through the registry tree to the
location of the key that you wish to delete. When you find the key or
value to be deleted, click on it to highlight it and press the "DELETE" key.

Delete Registry Values:
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Backup\(doubleclick.com)\
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Backup\(doubleclick.net)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\(doubleclick.net)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\(doubleclick.net)\
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell Extensions\Approved\(doubleclick.com)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell Extensions\Approved\(doubleclick.net)
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\URL\Prefixes(doubleclick.net)\
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\URL\Prefixes\(doubleclick.com)\
SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\URL\Prefixes\(doubleclick.net)


Unregister DLL Instructions:
To un-register a DLL file, first locate the file on your hard drive.
Open a command prompt window by clicking on the Windows "Start" button,
clicking "Run," and typing "cmd" into the box in the Window that appears. Click "OK."
Next type "regsvr32 /u " and press the "ENTER" key.
For example, to un-register a file called "myDll.dll" which is located in
the "C:\windows\system32" folder, your would type
"regsvr32 /u C:\windows\system32\myDll.dll" and press the "ENTER" key.



Delete File Entries:
DoubleClick

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Re: The Faster the PC, the Slower the Response (if it Doesn't Hang Forever)

02/20/2009 12:07 AM

PC used to be a real personal computer. You could easily write programs of your own, modify them, recompile, etc. Your program did exactly what you wanted without whistles and bells. You cannot do it anymore, you are forced to by spreadsheet programs, etc. If you could write and use your own programs that would be free of charge and our world is a marketing-driven world...

In addition, HW - processing power, memory - is cheaper then renting reeally good programmers.

I have a boot manager on my PC and sometimes I do use DOS

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Re: The Faster the PC, the Slower the Response (if it Doesn't Hang Forever)

02/20/2009 3:49 AM

I guess a big part of it is having too many programs running. I tried UHPC once (near the bottom of this) but can't say it made much difference. My system behaves reasonably OK, but does seem to have a mind of it's own on occasion. On the other hand, it doesn't complain to much if I get pissed off and just turn power off at the wall socket.

Maybe we can quantify this issue. I'll time my shutdown and start speeds, and post them next visit. Not a very scientific survey, but it might be fun. For the sake of clarity, Ill check time from power in the system box to working desktop and also CR4 login box.

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02/20/2009 4:22 AM

OK, times are between CR4 login/out and machine powered on/off;

uptime 3:30

downtime 0:40

I don't usually notice the start up time because I'm making coffee. I'm guessing the main start delay is security stuff at start up. Getting from desktop to CR4 login took only a couple of seconds. It's XP Home on a low spec machine.

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02/20/2009 8:21 AM

You have rec'd some very good advice so far; let me add my two cents...what I have found over the years is that some basics need to be observed. One is to keep your hard drive-to-resources "used" ratio to around 4 to 1, and keep your memory allocation equal and utilize quality memory (not the cheap stuff, $19.95 1Gb memory sticks are not as good of a deal as they first appear to be.) Hard drives store data in a sequential format, thus when you ask for information, it performs this sequentially; and memory, or RAM (Random Access Memory) stores data randomly. When you "mouse-click" to open a program or perform a function, the hard drive sends this group of data to the RAM so that it can be accessed quickly and efficiently. Irregardless of which OS you are using, and I know Vista is a pain, you need to be sure that the hard drive to memory relationship is in order. By temporarily storing the files or data that you are using in RAM, your processor can access it randomly or in other words "directly" when you ask it to. This is where your quick response time shows up.

Yes, it is true that with today's bloated systems, even with good resources, things slow down. The only option here is to delete and remove the junk.........start at the control panel "remove programs", then go to computer and click on programs to be sure that the specified program did indeed delete and then in some cases, while in program files also check "common files" to see if there is anything there.

On my personal desktop, it is almost seven years old, an entry level AMD Sempron processor, 250 Gb Seagate HDD, and 1 Gb of Kingston ValueRam memory. It is an "off the shelf" Compaq Presario, that originally came with 80 Gb HDD and 512 Kb memory. This machine is extremely fast, much faster than my new HP laptop that I use for business and engineering programs.

EVERYDAY............I run Web Tracks Eraser, CCleaner, Superantispyware, AVG Antivirus, and Auslogics Defrag. SAS and AVG run automatically at 3:00 AM and the other programs I manually run when I get off of the internet. All total they only take a couple of minutes to run, with the exception of the SAS and AVG that update and scan in the middle of the night.

All I can relate to you is what I know that works;I routinely build repair and clean systems for people now, as that is my retirement business......if you like you can visit my blog at barnyardpc.blogspot.com and ask me any questions or email at barnyardpc@gmail.com

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02/20/2009 3:19 PM

Hello oldgolfer: ,

Thank you for the post. I will visit your blog thanks. There really is some very helpful people on here you know!

I do still have it but don't ask where...........That's the spec for the PC I designed and got a friend to build

I spent almost £250.00 on 1 GB of memory. 2 X 512 MB. It was ten time more expensive than the cheapest at the time, but I understood the basics and knew the physical memory is one of the most important choices?

I have an AMD Athlon and two HDD. 1 x 50GB. 1 X 150 GB which is split equally in two, 75 GB virtual drives. There is nothing on one virtual and a couple of GB on the other. I want to move anything I want from the C HDD and have it temp' on the D HDD. reformat the C drive and reinstall. It is the first time I have done it so I will not be rushing it. I have to write everything down by hand as I do not have a printer, that way I can keep control of what is going on. A lot of the C drive has had all kinds of different apps loaded and then un-installed. And you never quite catch all the bits in all the files do you? It is that as much as a couple of Trojan attacks which screwed the system up.

I am pleased you found something you like to do as you retired. I am sure you must learn an awful lot from continually building and refurbish them. I have never had the confidence, and even now I have to push myself to get into the computer cabinet. A little over simplified, but it is not much harder than building a Mecano set really? You just have to think a little more and be gentle.

I intend to get a netbook and I can use that to make the reinstall easier. I tend to do stuff on the computer and not be scared of doing must things. You can alway press the back button if you get stuck right? I can seem to stand back and give others advice, bur when it comes to myself it is not so easy! A lot of the problem is a memory thing. Mine not the computers. I can't recall how many books I have filled with notes as I have been working. But, it aint a lot of good if you can't find the book you are looking for, you know? Looks like I made another friend?

I will leave it there as it is about to freeze again

Take care.........................

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02/20/2009 4:07 PM

I appreciate your graciousness. The things I try to accomplish on my blog are geared towards those in the computer environment that are not "tech savvy". I cannot help but believe that sometimes as engineers, explanations and answers take on too much technical and not enough basics. A friend once told me "people do not care how much you know, until they know how much you care."

I am more than glad to help, anyone, anytime; they can contact through this forum, or personal email. With the computers, it is somewhat of a passion and a challenge; what I run in to a lot is people, who have been led astray in understanding basic computers. In America, many independent repair shops are akin to the old used car dealers of years gone by............"anything they can do to separate you and your money is fair game."

Anyway, sorry for getting off topic....this is an open invitation to anyone on the forums; any way that I can be of assistance, just let me know. I am NOT a programmer, just someone who has learned computers from the manufacturing and industrial environment and now use it for the private sector.

FYI: Any programs, etc. that I recommend, I have run for at least two months; I have a separate computer that I use to download programs to, and evaluate them for a couple of months to see if they are what they say they are; and also to make sure there is no "junk" attached.

Good luck in your computing.

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02/20/2009 5:39 PM

Hello oldgolfer,

Thank you. I very much appreciate your invitation. I have done what little I could to help other and, I guess they are just sort of paying back, in a nice way, with the friendship and help. Thank you to you and all.

Just to say what has been said today here on this thread has really helped. As some know I have made notes and copied stuff to do over the next few days so it is not that I can make use of all the info today, there was and is too much. But it is all copied to my good ideas folder! If I remember to read it.........................it will come in more than useful in the future, but I hope you understand when I say, "I hope I never have to read that folder"!

Take care...........................

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02/20/2009 6:18 PM

Hello oldgolfer,

Hope you do not think it cheeky of me but, the

"people do not care how much you know, until they know how much you care."

Would be a nice tag for the bottom of your post? Unless you have something else in mind?

Just A thought.............Take care

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02/20/2009 9:26 AM

Hello Yuval,

I have crashed several times today while writing a post to wire so this will have to be quick...............................

I completely agree with you!!!!!! The things you mentioned I thought were unique to me!!!!!!

Take care and many thanks for your and anyone else's input to this very helpful thread.

I was about to start another of my own but, this deals with the stuff I need to do and is dealt with by people who know what they are doing!

Take care and thanks..........

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02/20/2009 6:12 PM

Hello Yuval,

Thank you for starting the thread. I am afraid I kind of hijacked it in super quick time! You know when you are typing a post, you do not have the rest of the thread to check right? Well earlier I got the idea it was wire who started this thread. Sorry for that erroneous thought!

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02/21/2009 2:21 AM

I can recommend that anyone who owns a PC should run "Dr Web" at least once a week, its free and can be downloaded from here.

You may be in for a big surprise, I was!! But since then my PC has remained virus free....I just do not understand why Kaspersky had just ignored them!!

It needs to be updated at least once a week, but it will offer to do that each time you start it. First it checks memory, them it stops, you must ALWAYS select the complete/full scan and also configure it to handle the infections found. I always make it delete infections when it can, rename when it cannot.

Its easy to use.

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02/21/2009 3:15 AM

that's surprising. what is your OS? hardware specs? in what applications do you notice such slow response? you'll have to be specific to get a clear answer.

in the older versions you named, after clicking, you can stand up and fix yourself a cup of coffee from the pantry, come back and still find the hourglass spinning. that's hardly what I'd call instant response. today's machines respond with speeds that are fantasies of 20 years ago.

there must be something(s) in your machine that is or are, causing the poor responses you're describing. you can't blame the OS outright. though I'm not an M$ fan, your comparison may not be equitable.

I hope nobody digresses into a Linux vs. MS discussion again on this thread.

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02/21/2009 1:40 PM

Hi Yuval,

As ordinary customer I'd be agreed with your state of incredibly slow response of contemporary PC's to any command's been keying- or clicking-in. It's our duty at all to "grumble" on whatever was offered us by PC/Software makers.

But on other hand I didn't notice that particularly all my 3 pc's, I've in my home, or other 4s on my work were responsing noticeably slow.

Yes I faced one similar problem recently as you described when 17'' dual-core HP laptop got down into eternity HD's LED blinking just since power-off command's been sent. Closer look had shown it'd been contaminated by a lot of malware which all that pre-installed cr..ppy set of Security(Credential ) Centers, antivirus prog and so on had failed cope with to. Having remained only DrWeb antivirus and controlled (non-automated) Windows update I had wiped all that stuff off for shooting that trouble. Although I never did mind or so care of forcefully pushing power-off button ;). It's not soo harmful as figured.

I'm trying use only linux for on-line connections. Needless to say any suspicious USB sticks should be avoided. Under Windows I'd advice turn-off autorun mode.

I do believe here's always possibility to "tune" any average PC for decent non-too-annoying speed performance.

Yes here's a mere abundance of computation power in nowadays PC-- but it's just a Personal Computer and one is developed as universal tool for anyone from retired person to devoted/addicted young gamer. Not mentioned business/engineering applications. PC's serving for work activity and entertainment one. God only knows how reasonable or freakish those two could be. And btw we've been charged to pay for (some more freak of that include).

Due to my engineering needs I keep using that old stuff like TurboC under DOS. It works on my dual-core as fast as I couldn't imagine at the time being run under original hardware platform. Would never wish return there.

Nevertheless, must admit none of us would be so excited of being charged for any ware's options which we have no idea how- and wherever apply to. That's so as that's a life.

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02/21/2009 2:08 PM

Hello caramba,

nice to see you here!

GA for you, you have given a very good explanation , thank you!

Take care,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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02/21/2009 2:58 PM

Hello babybear,

Had installed new toy on my laptop -- SuSE 11.1. It's amazingly fast in any response and so much of funny things to look at and treat to. Although I'd been forced for some forcing "tinkering and hammering" just get this bird chirping as I got used to hear. I'm supposing ubuntu is much more easy. I'd suggest.you migrate there as soon as you can.

Wish you nice weekend,

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02/22/2009 7:52 PM

Hello caramba, how are you?

Glad to hear 'your little bird' is chirping along OK! It is the same with anything new though, just paint it the colour you like and off you go? If I get a netbook they seem to have a Lite version of ubuntu or another one I can't recall. I think it is the same as a mobile phone has, but I am only guessing. It is only about 90 MB as apposed to the usual Half a gig. I like the look of Suse. But of course I cannot compare really with any other Linux as I have seem a still picture only. Not seen it working. I hope I will have time to find out this week, but am not sure if our computer shop has anything I can actually test by using it. Very few have more than a standard picture of the desktop as you may see when looking for a particular brand, you know?

I read that MAC are entering a netbook type laptop? No pics yet but it should happen this year. Be interesting to see what it is like?

Hey, take care, and keep in touch.....................

How are you apart from that? You now have broad band? Do you notice that much difference?

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02/23/2009 1:37 AM

Hello babybear,

Having some time to spare and reply as I've caught a cold so I'm at home now.

Yeah, system is working fine and remarkable rocketing in its response to any mine keystroke arranged wishes. For the first time I had not been compelled type-in any console script code to for adjusting internet connection. All has been worked out by itself.

I'm not too delighted by my ISP broadband performances. But at least I can visit and make inputs for long threads now.

I'd not advice you to purchase netbook with preinstalled linux, especially lite one. It'll take too long to explain why. You'd better get one with XP.

You can install ubuntu along with XP on your problem "safe-mode addicted" desktop . You'll be offered make any disk's repartitioning automatically. Just rely on it.

As I said before all linux distros are generally the same. Although here's some nuances you'll catch up once you get own experience.

Here's some snapshots of my SuSE with turned-on 3d effects.

In contrary to notorious Aero these funny things are pretty workable on any relatively modest platform. I had them running on P-III with antediluvian GForce4 in 2006.

have a nice day,

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02/23/2009 10:27 AM

Hello caramba,

how are you? Sorry to hear you are not well. I hope it is a cold and not flu!

Your system looks very impressive. I was not aware it could be 3D? Almost like looking at a MAC?

If I got a Linux netbook I would go for the ubuntu or xp, knowing I could always take off xp and replace it with Linux?

Take care my friend

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02/21/2009 2:04 PM

Way back in the 1900's I remember requesting a computer while serving in United States Naval Service, ha! It took so long to arrive I didn't remember why I ordered it; suppose is the reason eh.

It came on three pallets, took a working party to bring onboard, and about two weeks to assemble. I got a short course of command line archeology.

After all modules (thank God for that upgrade) were online (old school terminology) eighteen hours was the time required to boot.

Return MSG from Smithsonian proved fruitless as they had one too.

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02/22/2009 5:19 PM

Hello wire,

Way back in the 1900's I remember requesting a computer while serving in United States Naval Service, ha! It took so long to arrive I didn't remember why I ordered it; suppose is the reason eh.

It came on three pallets, took a working party to bring onboard, and about two weeks to assemble. I got a short course of command line archeology.

After all modules (thank God for that upgrade) were online (old school

terminology) eighteen hours was the time required to boot.

Return MSG from Smithsonian proved fruitless as they had one too.

That sounds quite a learning curve! Instead of making a coffee while the thing boots, you had a couple of kids! When sort of?

I can't imagine what that would be like though I have read you had to know command line stuff before you could use one?

18 hours, ?WOW!

Take care...........Look I thought I had better tell you and anyone else who was kind enough to post me that I am starting at the bottom of the list and trying to get through to reply to each one OK?

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02/22/2009 6:03 PM

Look for

Zlob.Downloader.exe it is what summons the Trojan and allows it through your security. Change the "r" in downloader to "b", this will prevent it from being used and you may catch a breath.

When you can download again get "CWShredder" to eliminate "Coolwebsearch"

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02/23/2009 10:16 AM

Hello wire,

How are you?

So this downloader will take the place of the windows downloader then?

And the name I search for is the one you give, then I change the downloader to downloadeb?

Is that right?

Take care.............and thank you.

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02/25/2009 11:17 PM

Hello bb,

No, no this down-loader you don't want. You may have it and if you do have it, it will cause havoc. So if you have it change one character in the file name to render it ineffectual.

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02/26/2009 1:12 AM

Hi wire,

I have not downloaded this Installer. I was a little confused (whats new!) for the reason you posted it really?

No problems.

My system is just working at the moment. I tried to load a VGA Controller yesterday and found one of the drivers with one particular ATI software download effected my Graphic, so my icons were fuzzy? I knew it was one of the now two VGAs which are asked to load and install each time I reboot, but was not sure which one. I do not know how there was two copies of almost identical software on my computer?????????

I have now managed to trash them. I am not worried about the not being able to unload stuff. As long as I can keep working and get onto the net, for the moment I won't worry. But every now and then it goes for a while and then suddenly all the type I am doing is delayed about ten seconds. I have chased it down to everything slowing down when the PC Tools Spyware Doctor is on a full scan.

I had a lot of problems with my ISP dropping the connection over the last three weeks. It will connect then after five minutes but often less in disconnects for 5/10 minutes, and runs like that the the evening to about 02:00. It only happened 5 times today. I know it is a poor connection from the ISPs end because I queried it a week ago, and he was able to tell me when I was about to lose the connection. He said there is a problem with the Tel' exchange but what it is they have yet to find?

Things I do not understand: how Microsoft was able to download updates on normal use, when I can't get any web page on normal use? Very odd. I understand roughly how DHCP works but I do not know how it became listed as damaged. I thought it may be a simple task of deleting the damaged file (DHPC) and replace automatically with one on the Windows install CD. But I could not unload it anyway. I will stay as I am until I can get out or buy a mini computer (perhaps) on-line. I do not want to risk my connection, though it works only in safe mode for me to get on the web, it is still a connection. I have spent so much time trawling through my computer ref' books I could not face it when Kris sent me a helpful DHCP info. But I now know there is no DHCP working or installed on my machine. Through a lot of time wasting I have found that out at least. I am pretty sure I have a static address so maybe I do not need the DHCP for the moment.

If it halfway behaves as it is doing now for the most part, I will continue to learn more of the intricacies of DHCO and general connections. I do however understand the basic idea of how it works with Licenses being renewed each day or each time I reboot. Any other detail will have to wait until I can read it and say "oh I see the problem". But as the Microsoft 'expert' could not fathom my problems I am not surprised I can't! I will leave it there. I just wanted you and Kris and ducky to know I am all read out at the moment but, it does not mean I am not trying things out and the pieces from you, ducky and Kris are in my come in handy folder as they are worth knowing anyway!

Take care wire..........................

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02/26/2009 3:30 AM

Super glad you are back on the pedal.

DHCP is obsolete forgetaboutit.

That zlob.downloader is a malware you should avoid but it can piggy back into your computer so it is F.Y.I. to not allow [zlob] to run ever. That was my reason for writing of it, it is the precursor to "Anti-Virus 2009 and a real bugger to deal with if you don't know the file name.

The other "CWShredder" is a repair tool to eradicate the "Coolwebsearch" malware which replicates itself and morphs faster than any other tool can be maintained to kill it.

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02/26/2009 5:15 AM

GA. This is an important, severe issue

That is a whole can of worms, that is.

Spyware pretending to be some "freeware" anti-spyware, that is.

Way back in 2003, there were numerous warnings about such Trojan schemes.

The most common advice then and especially now, was and is to google any such candidate inside out, before you think of installing such programs.

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02/26/2009 9:37 AM

Hello Yuval,

True and the twist with [zlob] it will piggy back in, set-up house then call home and authorize the download without acknowledging the administrator. So viola` that's how it happens one moment you're surfing then poof "Anti-Virus 2009" is downloading itself before your eyes. You have about three seconds to react; disable internet connection and pull the plug! or open wide here's you new nightmare

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02/26/2009 9:58 AM

Perhaps it'll shut down if I give it another minute...

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02/26/2009 10:07 AM

I'm especially short-fused: if my PC doesn't respond in less than 20 seconds, and the hard-disk isn't busy writing, I press the restart button - coupled with a juicy curse.

Machines should obey humans - not the other way around - no ifs and buts about it

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02/26/2009 1:47 PM

Sounds good to me. There's lots of poncy ways of shutting down your internet connection etc, but if mine's busy and I don't know why I just kill it at the main power socket (). I don't even make it to 20 seconds - so far my sledgehammer approach hasn't fried the thing, and even if it did I wouldn't care. Saves me hours of worrying over what the heck it might be doing. It doesn't even seem to mind on the re-boot.

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02/26/2009 10:28 PM

Hi wire,

Just to say I did take your post as a warning! Not an instruction. I have not had either of the file and apps names you mention. I have been checking things out and going through the files and have not seen anything you describe in your post # 75.

Take care..............

PS. Can you please stop the flashing Tryangle? It is screwing me up. Sorry.

PPS. I may have to go to bed and continue this tomorrow. I will see how I do but it is freezing on almost every reply I try to write and takes ages to do even a short reply like this.

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02/27/2009 1:55 PM

The triangle will stop flashing about four minutes

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02/27/2009 2:32 PM

Blimey, it does. I had to check out of curiosity. Now I can go take my ration of anti-convulsants. No, I'm not joking, so no more of them please.

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Hi wire,

I thank you from the heart of my bottom. Bottom of my heart!

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02/22/2009 10:28 PM

DRDOS6 was wicked fast on a 12 MHz 286 w/256kB RAM and a 40MB HD. I was seriously pissed when MS prevented W3.1 from loading on top of it with some bogus error message.

Today it's all bloat. Useless eyecandy and evil DRM. Try Ubuntu.

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I used DrDos6 back in the day. I thought is was great. O lived the fact that there were alternatives to MS. To bad they all got squashed.

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02/25/2009 7:59 PM

i use Irfanview a small usefull picture viewer program

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02/26/2009 8:49 AM

(if it Doesn't Hang Forever)

I wonder what's the longest time some one has sat waiting for a PC to respond?
Del.. (I'm sure it will shut down if we give it another minute )

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whoa! took him THAT long?

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02/26/2009 7:50 PM

I am using avira i hope that is not malware

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02/26/2009 9:19 PM

I'm afraid that people will blow up this planet long before Skynet could ever have a ghost of a chance to rise...

Besides, according to some leading logician figures such as John Searle, intelligent machines are not even theoretically possible.

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Avira seem to be a credible operation - They are widely known, so they have to maintain some positive reputation

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02/26/2009 9:48 PM

They say often that is not possible while after some years a breakthrough has occurred, quantum computers would make AI more plausible

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Not as in practically impossible, but theoretically impossible - for a machine to have the ability to be aware of it's own identity with associated self-interest, together with the ability to adept and invent - which is also called the "strong" or "hard" definition for AI

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02/26/2009 11:42 PM

Hm, i don't completely agree with that idea, arent we just biological machines?

Computers and it's hardware are advancing at a rapid pace, who what kind of systems the future brings. I surely agree with the way data is process in current computer systems it is impossible.

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