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Math versus Maths

08/30/2009 9:52 PM

Lately I've been increasingly bewildered by the use of the word "maths". At first I thought this was simply a term used outside of the United States, however I noticed American posters using the term to.

Growing up, I never used the word "maths". I went to math class, studied math, used a math book, etc.

So I'm turning to the CR4 community for some help. Does anyone have any insight into why, seemingly suddenly, after 30 something years of never hearing the term "maths", I now see it all over the place?

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09/02/2009 11:40 AM

Or in europe the transition. In the end this wont matter as they plan to change the entire Queens English to be more like German or maybe Dutch, which was totally changed in the 1950s to remove complicate spelling, for ease of use across the EU. So I am guessing th may be one of the sounds on the way out, sort of like eau. So uin the future the English will say mats or even muts or something. The Queens English is proposed to become Europian Ebonics, or maybe it will be Uropee ann

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09/04/2009 9:18 AM

In an age where, increasingly, children (even the better educated) are not thoroughly taught when it comes to expressing themselves in English—and with the influence of Africa-derived English pigeon speak in the learning culture—to use the forms of "math(ematics) properly and with understanding (of collective singularity) can be quite confounding.

So the coinage, maths, provides a simplified way to ensure that number matches up grammatically as it should in sentences. So, in a sense, the error derives from attempting not to make an error. In other cases (more in line with the African thing), it probably also occurs that "maths" comes about (again, sort of cleverly) by the abbreviation/transition: mathematics → mathematics → maths...again a proper coinage of sorts.

In either case, a rational justification which "follows the rules" can be made for well-meaning use of the misnomer. It is up the more educated listener, then, to make the necessary silent mental translation...taking the apparent (but inconsequential) mistake with a grain of salt. If the errant speaker progresses in education, he or she will eventually make the jump to standard usage—only somewhat later in life than his/her forebears in prior generations.

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09/04/2009 9:43 AM

Hello Guest,

I intend no insult........................... BUT..........................

You put forth a confused explanation of (I think) Maths/Math, when neither necessitates any kind of explanation whatsoever.

All that is necessary is to 'accept' the current prevailing idioms and usage. It matters not one 'jot' that this word has at least two different spellings.

1 + 1=2. That is the same the world over.

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09/05/2009 9:01 AM

First, math has but one valid spelling...the world over.

Because your comment merely recapitulates the basic conclusion I already drew leads my to assure you: no insult taken, intended or not . (Exercise your "current prevailing" syntax skills on that one. )

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09/05/2009 12:15 PM

How disastrously misguided/wrong can anyone get????

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09/05/2009 4:26 PM

Hello Guest,

Lets call it a draw

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09/04/2009 9:57 AM

Well put, whoever you are. The natural tolerance of listeners to interpret semantic errors leads to the amorphous structure of many spoken languages, particularly English. As we all know, this imprecision becomes the amusing basis for many jokes and misunderstandings. But I've always found it amusing the first time somebody tries to learn a programming language and finds out that there will not be an intelligent listener receiving the written text. After the first stumbles in typing an acceptable syntax gets surmounted, the real fun starts. The fledgling programmer learns that the machine does exactly what they tell it, no matter how stupid the actual request is. This hurdle separates the programmers from the users.

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09/04/2009 11:22 AM

I've told you computer a million times.....Do what I mean, not what I say!!!!

Ah, programing.

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09/04/2009 11:58 AM

Hello RP,

As I cannot compute in normal English let alone program language, ya got me there!

Question: Do you not think this subject has run as far as it can>>?

Cos' I do Math, Maths, who cares...........................

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09/04/2009 12:38 PM

Hello RP,

Looks like we agree then? ......................... Yes, I thought so at comment #47.

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09/05/2009 1:28 PM

I'm not dead yet.

You will be soon. Whack!

Maybe we just need Brave Sir Robin or the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch to put this linguistic beast to bed. But not without a spanking.

It's a fierce horrible monster. Its just a bunny rabbit.

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09/05/2009 4:35 PM

Hello redfred,

Glad you're not dead! Getting a bit silly now with this Mathhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhssssssssssssss subject going on, and on, and one............

Take care.

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You mean it 'was' a bunny rabbit?

It's a fierce horrible monster.

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09/04/2009 11:53 AM

Hello redfred,

I am the one "babybear" who sent post # 98. If it is me you refer to in your post # 99, I fully agree.

One should write clearly and, make references which make sense! Thank you for putting it more eloquently than I ever could.

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