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03/28/2010 1:23 AM

As far as I know, here's a new one... A company by the name of ClickSOR has come up with a whole new business plan: infect people's computers with a virus (through the use of a trojan) that changes the ads on your web pages to ads their customers want you to see.

I first became aware of this when I made a visit to CR4. I was surprised to see that CR4 was now advertising online dating, credit reports, and "Win a puppy" ads! However, my typical malware scanning software didn't seem to find anything wrong. Additionally, when I tried to update my virus scanning software, I was told that there were no updates to be had. At this point, I decided to go to them that should know the most about my computer, Microsoft.

Microsoft offers an online scanning tool, which is up-to-date and very thorough--takes about two hours to run. Sure enough, it found the viruses placed on my computer by the ClickSOR company. It also found something called "ransom" ware. This was a virus checker program that initially infected my computer with several viruses, which it then detected, and told me their software could remove it for just $49.99. Furthermore, after getting rid of these infections, I found a whole bunch of update files, stacked up, and ready for downloading to my scanner software.

So is this a trend? Is this the future of advertising on the net? And who deemed infection as an ethical business practice?

I thought you all should know that this is going on out there. I really don't know who to contact to report what I consider a crime. Needless to say that I'd really like to see these guys swinging from the limb of a very tall tree.

What do you think???

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03/28/2010 2:53 AM

Yeah, yeah yeah whatever.
Did you win the puppy?
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(But seriously, this is rather worrying especially as it's getting increasingly difficult to do any banking other than via the internet)

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03/28/2010 2:56 AM

It's simmering in the pot right now... I named it Chris.

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03/28/2010 3:17 AM

you mean er... Kris?

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03/28/2010 6:13 AM

Please tell em you haven't been doing hillbilly cuisine, vermin.

I don't get too many annoying adverts pop-up, or links go bad, but it's inevitable that we're all going to get profiled and targeted by search engines such as google. All the blather about confidentiality/info sharing is balls. The most pervasive nuisance seems to be doubleclick, though specific players can be blocked. Can't remember how I did it, but I don't seem to have them anymore.

In the UK, you can register to not recieve unsolicited sales crap via telephone or snail-mail. A few companies break the rules. Trouble with the internet is it's just too big and crosses national (ie legal juristiction) boundaries.

Maybe, like animal populations self-regulating at critical mass, the internet may (in part) do the same. Anyone running a site has a vested interested in keeping the crap out. By way of example, I know which porn sites not to visit, because there are too many viruses/adverts/pop-ups and so on.

Think I'm off at a tangent, so I'll have to read the original post again. Last thorough sytem scanning I did found nothing on my stuff, but 4 'iffy' files on sons computer ( all .wma files containing tracker hacks he'd got from Limewire. Hah - that'll teach him !).

Anyone now how you can check that the padlock that appears on 'secure' sites is genuine ? I avoid online money transactions as much as possible but, as Del said, it's becoming unavoidable.

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03/28/2010 9:40 PM

I don't think you're really getting it... Sure, everybody puts tracking cookies on PCs, but they're very easy to get rid of. Also, there are malicious bastards out there that just want to f#%k with people by creating toxic infections.

However, this is the first time I've seen someone try to build an advertising business through the use of a real virus! Additionally, this virus keeps all of your scanning software from getting updates. Of course, this keeps the guy's virus safe, but also it keeps your PC from getting updates for other (more deadly) viruses. He's putting you, your data, and your PC in danger so he can make a buck...

One also might reflect on the ethics of his customers. I would suggest if anyone else gets infected by this thing, write down the advertisers so we can post a list of companies to boycott.

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03/29/2010 6:06 AM

Maybe I don't get it. A quick google reavealed plenty about said company (no links due to nature of thread). What's the deal ? If it sounds to good to be true.../no such thing as a free lunch.../etc. vermin, you darling pompom, it's a nasty world in cyberspace (as in the 'real' world) and people will try to screw you. A list of bad websites would probaly exceed BBT.

If you want to PM me where you got turned over, let me know. I'll use a separate syste, to check it out. (If I do this, you owe me a boiled puppy )


"Ads are usually generated within 20 minutes after an account is setup. In cases when the code is not compatible with the site, the system will take longer to process the information. We recommend our publishers to wait 1 to 2 days before checking the daily report.

For no impression, we need our publishers to contact us immediately.

For low impression/payout rate, we can assist our publishers to optimize their earnings by assisting them to select more suitable keywords and ads."

I'd elaborate on where I got that, but I have to dash off to a 'get rich quick' seminar

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03/29/2010 7:39 AM

Hey Vermin, long time no see!

I thought someone had "exterminated" you, glad to see I am wrong!!

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03/28/2010 3:21 AM

When society crumbles, we'll all be cutting our own hair. - Lucious Prn

Hey, I do that now! Soooo, I guess that says something about society (crumble, crumble)

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03/28/2010 1:42 PM

Self-made or clipped ? Real men don't eat quiche, they make it !

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03/29/2010 4:42 AM

It's got oats in it, so it's not one of mine (I use maize flakes) - it's not GF !!

When I bake, I'm too busy eating to get a camera out! I do have kitten update pics, though...they're trying to stand, the little darlings!

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03/29/2010 5:47 AM

Put Smarties tubes on their lickle legs

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03/29/2010 7:05 AM

What would I do with the smarties? I can't eat 'em, they've got wheat in

Yes they have, you check the ingredients list....

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03/29/2010 7:30 AM

Kittens are quite nutritious. 0.37 . Due to a tooth gone AWOL, I can't even enjoy boiled puppy for a few days .

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03/28/2010 3:15 AM

I truly believe this has been around for some time. I have never made it a mission to confirm it, let alone confront it.

It would really be great if we could get together; some of us could create a "homing countervirus", giving us the physical location of the a$$hole hackers. Others of us would take out said hackers with extreme prejudice on an extremely well planned special op.

(I never said this...)

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03/28/2010 5:11 PM

Hey Vermin.

Sounds like the marketing model of the tobacco companies or the local drug pusher.

except they don't offer you a "fix" <groan> Thanks for the tip about the experts at microsoft.

Do you use ketchup or catsup on cooked puppies?

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03/29/2010 1:47 AM

I have had a problem with this in the past too.

I first noticed something was wrong when visiting an information website for the online game Everquest. Normally the adds are for various online games but this time the adds were all for Viagra and dating services.

I'm not sure how my PC got infected but the only way I could find to solve it was to restore my system to a restore point about a week previously. I didn't think about looking on the Microsoft site at the time. Like you my Anti-Virus software did not find any problem either.

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03/29/2010 2:41 AM

It is profit making pulling business. (Sometimes I suspect that all Antivirus companies only are virus making industries on background).

May be shortly we will have stocks in market of these companies, and you can purchase stocks for non ending profit pulling business.

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03/29/2010 3:38 AM

May be shortly we will have stocks in market of these companies, and you can purchase stocks for non ending profit pulling business.
I'm sure the banks are already doing stuff like that, selling futures back and forth and bad debts and bundles of crap that doesn't exist, they'll never see and no-one actually wants...that's how we all got shafted.
No sorry not quite all of us...everyone except those who caused the problem.
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03/29/2010 3:48 AM

That is much too kind. Alas, in the U.S., the Eighth Amendment prevents a proper response to that kind of behavior.

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03/29/2010 6:08 AM

Let me get this straight; if one was to order, say, a pussy, then it's conceivable that one might get dog instead?

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A "dog" is another name for an ugly Pussy, don't you agree? She sounded like a "Pussy" on the phone.......

Very sexist, sorry ladies.....

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Ulp.....carefull now......you'll wake up the Kaiser

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03/29/2010 11:29 PM

or at the same time.

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LOL

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03/29/2010 10:53 AM

Mike McConnell, former Director of National Intelligence here in the US, gave a keynote at a conference I attended. Among his interesting points was that eventually, a top-level domain will be developed wherein users sacrifice anonymity for security. Everything you say or do in that domain could be traced to you, but you wouldn't have to put up with (as many) viruses or spam.

It's starting to look more and more like a reasonable exchange to me. But then, I'm getting too old to want to slink around electronically that much.

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04/01/2010 4:13 PM

How about the advertisers and CR4. They did not pay for the space to have someone fill it with another advertisement. Nor did CR4 provide the space for someone else to fill with out compensation for the space.

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