Bad Food Combinations

Diet Coke and Mentos?

Yeah! that would certainly ruin someone's day.

Some of us who have sever food allergies can tell if a nut or any seafood have been blended in immediately. Rapid reverse peristalsis is my friend.

I used to be allergic to shrimp. I would swell up like a blowfish. Years later, I eat shrimp all the time and never a symptom. I know some who are allergic to nuts. They get asthma symptoms.

There are so many "Nuts" on CR4 too, so a lotta people gotta be careful here!!

Hopefully none of us are allergic to CR4 nuts.

my lord! I just realized why I break out in hives everytime I come here...

The nut(s) here are pretty strong, so even slight contact (just licking!) of the screen or keyboard can give serious problems.

CR4 is bad for your health!

I am allergic to pork so, bacon and eggs does me in.

I have a friend in Atlanta who is allergic to (among other things) the hormones used in modern pig farming, she is however able to eat 'kosher pork' (I know its an oxymoron) with no problems... might be worth looking into, lord knows I would risk my life for a bacon sandwich almost any day of the week... and a nice plate of carnitas... oh man, I'm slobbering on my desk, gotta go, gonna have a pig attack...

I wonder if there are combinations of foods which once ingested can cause serious distress.

Does severe flatulence count?

Only to the people you're with

I have always wondered about this...and any relation to things like cancer. I'm going a little further by thinking of chemical reactions between preservatives, pesticides, etc, etc...I know that the scientists always look for and study the reaction of certain elements as individual items and how it affects body tissue...but do they do combinations? Eg How does the chemicals affect body tissue when having a burger and coke and them possibly some fruit. While they on there own have no issues, but what about all the steroids, antibiotics etc from the meat react with the pesticides from the lettuce, tomato, etc and then the pesticides/herbisides in the fruit?

Just a thought.

I find my digestion is better if I do not eat protëine and carbohidrates at the same meal. If I do not adhere to separating the two kinds..I get bloated, feel tired and have more arthritus problems.

It did not matter what I ate when I was young...had an ostrich stomach, but now that I'm old I have to watch out not to eat different kinds of food at a single meal.

jurie sa

I am allergic to meat, fish, eggs as I am vegetarian .

Can you please clarify...are you saying that because you are allergic to meat, fish and eggs you are a vegetarian? Or are you saying that because you are vegetarian you are allergic to meat, fish and eggs?

B'cas I am vegi I am allergic.

I do not follow that logic. If you have chosen to be a vegetarian voluntarily (i.e. conscious choice or through your up bringing) that does not necessarily make you allergic to meats and eggs.

I think you did not notice emton sign of smile at the end message,I was just joking. I am vegi from birth.

Would you not consider that Mother's Milk is NOT vegetarian?????

So "from Birth" is HIGHLY unlikely to be factual!!!

I would say it is an "animal Product" at best.......for all of us.

I know there are some bottle milks without animal products, my youngest daughter had to have such things as she was alergic to any animal products we found at 3 moths old....and my wife had "dried up" (how wonderful if always true !!)...

Is that how you did it?

This is meant to be light hearted, so don't take offense, none was intended either!!

Actually, I did see the emotcon smile. But wasn't quite sure what it meant. I believe I posed a serious question and wasn't expecting a joke response.

You said "Eating pickles and ice cream was once thought to be a no-no combination. "

I thought eating pickles and ice cream is what caused pregnancy. I suppose in some circles that would constitue a no-no combination.

The Diamonds in their book "Fit for Life" advocated avoiding various food combinations such as carbohydrates and protein. Also they recommended to eat dairy products only by themselves as they claimed dairy is extremely difficult to digest.

Other's of course have disputed that approach.

More information on the Fit for Life approach as well as information questioning the Diamonds credentials can be found here

Ronseto,

What is Catsup or did you mean Catsoup? If so what is Catsoup?

Catch up!

Catsup is ketchup according to dictionary.com (see here) and wikipedia they are the same (see here)

Thank you. I never heard of that before - catsup I mean.

Catsoup?

My younger sister when she was pregnant continually ate dill pickles with Peppermint Stick ice cream-----she survived and so did the baby. He's now a strapping 20-year 6'-3" youngster with a bone-crushing physique!

Honestly, when she was eating that stuff it almost made me want to puke my brains out! What a revolting combo!!! LOL

Ditto with the combination of Thousand Island salad dressing atop Spaghetti that my 19-y.o. Autistic Step Son eats all the time when he visits here on vacation from his special school.....Somehow he picked this awful eating habit from the other kids at school, mostly Inner City kids from NYC's Harlem and Philly's South Side. I suspect that the salad dressing is a substitute for spaghetti sauce!? Anyhow, watching him eat that combo is akin to drinking "Panther Piss" for me, and makes my stomach churn over and over again.....yuk!!!!!!

I guess once it's past the lips and taste buds, does taste of weird combinations of food really matter? I don't think so...

Some things in the UK that disgust me personally but many love them are:-

deep fried chocolate bars - in Batter!!! calories in the MILLIONS!!

Fried Pork Sausages with marmalade......ugh!!

There are some other "quaint" things that happily I have completely forgotten.....

give me a fried wally any day! don't know about the chocolate though... I'm sure it tastes fantastic but the gleam in Death's eye as you stand poised to to take that first bite of fried confection is a bit of an appetite suppresant...

would be down for trying the sausage and marm. though

I have (boringly enough!) not tried either.

Let us know what you think.

The deep fried battered chocolate (Mars?) bars are available in many Fish and chip shops...I have been a witness to somebody buying one even.....UGH!!!

What was it Elvis Presley used to like; peanut butter and pickles?

I believe that was peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

I stand corrected. Thanks

beef and white onions, I'm told (by my wife who just took a whole foods nutrition course), cause some sort of toxin creation... yellow onions are fine though...

Also grapefruit juice while taking medications.

to be clear I should have said "white onions interact with beef to create toxin". Sorry though, I don't know the specifics... if I remember I will ask my wife tonight when I get home...

Hi Ron,

Yes, we have to consider food in three categories:

1. Vegetables and fruits alone. Easy to digest, less than one hour.

2. Meat, pork, chicken, beef, and other animals' body. Take 2 to 4 hours to digest.

Now, if you mix 1 with 2, one will get rotten within 15 to 20 minutes in the acidic and meat mixture. Gas formation and other digestive difficulties follow.

3. Pastas, breads and other carbohydrates are digested within 30 minutes to an hour.

Again, if 2 and 3 are mixed, certain digestive problems arise. It's timing and what's the first and why the other is the second and what to do during the waiting or digestion time?

So, mix 1 and 3, and no one has problems or eat separately each and add 4 hours to digest meat and other animal products. Respect 1 and half hours for carbohydrates alone and 1 hours for veggies and fruits.

Check exeptions in each category. For example, bananas are hard to digest compare to berries. White bread and whole wheat bread. Fish or beef is different too. And consider all condiments and spices, and oils or other unknown ingredients we use or take in food we eat. Also, check Glycemic Index of each food and don't eat that is higher than 50. We don't know nothing about high GI food but our pancreas knows.

Conclusion: Blends are risky things to eat but we have the chance to get some of them together but not the others. It's up to us to understand what's good and what's wrong for us, Gil.

Now, if you mix 1 with 2, one will get rotten within 15 to 20 minutes in the acidic and meat mixture. Gas formation and other digestive difficulties follow.

I prefer to use the term "fermentation occurs"

Which is why chicken in orange sauce has 1,850,000 listings according to Google. Wait, maybe that's a bad example. Beef in berry sauce has only 628,000 listings according to Google. That's showing a more lethal combination. Maybe an examination of the lethal combination one can find in Chicken Supreme in Wild Berry Sauce can rip into a digestive tract. Oh, but that recipe sounds so good. Maybe I'll try this over the weekend.

My point is that there are individuals, myself particularly, that have medical conditions that limit their diets. Some individuals tolerance to certain foods change as they age. There are also individuals that choose to limit their diet, vegetarians and others. (Many of these latter individuals over time do become intolerant of full meals outside of their diets and think they know what living with a true food allergy means. You don't. I hope that you never do.) Outside of these two groups of individuals, humanity is an omnivore. We eat a whole variety of different foods. Some food we still eat raw to preserve all of the original flavors. But most foods we cook, prepare and intermingle with a whole variety of different delicacies to tantalize our tastes.

To those of you who love a good salmon steak, trout almondine, or a simple peanut butter and jelly sandwich I say "Bon Appetit." But I will not be joining you in any of those meals.

Hey Mr. Guest, Thanks for the lesson. I never thought about it that way. Sure makes a lot of sense. A GA from me. You should register so your GA's add up.

in response to: "Conclusion: Blends are risky things to eat but we have the chance to get some of them together but not the others. It's up to us to understand what's good and what's wrong for us"

My food sensibilities are *screaming* for me to drop a comment about: "Engineers talking gastronomy... and failing miserably"

Ya'll realize that this post attacks one of the most loved and traditional meals...

"Spaghetti and meatballs with tomato sauce"

Isn't that enough to gasp, point, and wave the silly flag?

Dear All,

what is bad?: bad taste, bad for your health, bad for your momentary or tomorrow feelings?

Which amount of good or bad turns to the opposite after "too much" is down?

It is proven that men can live from pure potato-"diet", also from pure meat and fat.

But most carbohydrates are no good if eaten without adding fat and protein.

Adding fat is not equivalent to adding any fat.

Some animal fat is bad without any doubt if not taken in a mixture or alternating with good fats.

Not all vegetable fats are good. All hydrogenated fats are bad - disturbing natural inflammation balancing.

Spicy meals are usually better than non-spicy - but the amount differs widely on training and adaption.

Allergies make the whole scenario unpredictable but visible or felt signs of allergies often mask the real culprits. This real culprit is lowering the trigger-level that our metabolic system has set until inflammation starts. With lowered trigger-level many problems may arise but not necessarily the problem starter.

Wild peaches trigger fewer allergies than gardened peaches and these are better than farmed peaches.

Pregnant woman seem to have a much more sensitive feeling which combination will be good and which one bad.

Every-days workers on light and easy (may be quite different in the type of exhaustion) need a different food than people who cut trees or climb mountains.

So many more combinations than those that are thought bad above may be selected as beautiful depending on the circumstances.

RHABE

Hi ronseto,

Here are some quotes from medical books that I have read. Sorry, I don't have the titles right now.

"Milk ingested with protein will neutralize the acid needed to break down the protein"

"Proteins and sugars or starch neutralize the digestive juices needed by each [other] for digestion"

"The only time a fruit can be successfully combined with another food is when the other food is soured (fermented), such as yogurt or cottage cheese"

"Acids and sweet fruits are a poor combination; any type of melon should be eaten by itself"

-S

LOL, is this from one of those "etiquette texts" or "barber-surgeon manuals" from the 1700's?

Some examples of forbidden combinations according to the above:

1) Creamed chipped beef or Arrosto al Latte

2) Meringue or Chicken & Rice

3) Pork with (Apples, Apricots, Pineapple, etc...) or any fruit pie.

4) Berries with lemon-cello & creme fraiche or grapefruit supremes with grapes (industrial fruit cocktail)

4a) Prosciutto & melon with balsamic vinegar

Laugh if you like, I was only answering the man's questions. They came from modern books and some can be found on the web. This link explains why you don't want to mix meat with starch. Although I have never worried much about these, they get more important as you age.

My previous supervisor was very obese. He drank diet pop all day long. I warned him about it, but he didn't heed. In my experience people scoff until the day they die. Live long and prosper.

Don't mix meat with starch!?!? Every sandwich but the infamous Vegemite® sandwich is a combination of starch and meat. What about arroz con pollo (I hope I spelled that right) How about sushi with brown rice. Maybe you should consider the Indian dish Keema Biryani. If starch and meat was at all a vile digestive combination then this would not become a staple of food in all cultures that I can think of. Come on people, think a little on your own. Don't just spout out what others have told you. We are omnivores. Our teeth include canines and molars to eat both flesh and grain.

I said it before, there are individuals that cannot tolerate certain foods. For whatever reason an individuals intolerance to certain foods should be accepted by all. But to say that long chain carbohydrates (starch) and meat will cause for the implied most people a digestive problem is nothing more than fool-hearted.

Ahhh yes, another foodie! I've considered this thread to be more humorous than serious, but it did occur to me that there might be some food that does contain an agent that could be extracted by EtOH and a high pH. At that point I'm drawing a blank, but imagine consuming too much of a highly alkaline substance, like improperly washed grits (corn + NaOH) or ludefisk, and beer or white wine or bleached vodka, and another item with an alcohol soluble toxin...

Yeah, that's stretching it pretty thin...

just like a shackle with a casting flaw, your yummy good meal may not kill you today, or tomorrow, or even a year from now... but rest assured one day it is apt to fail and cause some sort of gastric distress...

many toxins are stored in the body and only cause problems after levels have accumulated to high levels.

remember also that different people react differently to different things.

people have been eating, and experiencing the effects of the food they ate for long enough to have observed subtle fluctuations in bodily function as a result of eating those foods. to flatly dismiss the knowledge, or lore, of the what, zillions of people who came before us, is the highest form of conceit imaginable. I grant you you should accept these things with a grain of salt, but there is a great deal of truth tucked away in our myths and legends and you would do well not to scoff.

but rest assured one day it is apt to fail and cause some sort of gastric distress...

OMG......quick pull my finger.

I like most of your ideas and attitude here, but I'm going to split a few hairs based on just my personal opinion. I dislike the implication that all yummy meals must have toxins in them that accumulate in the body. There are toxins that accumulate in the body, for example many heavy metals. These toxins do accumulate the higher up in the predator/prey ladder that one does choose to eat. But it is a fallacy that these toxins are what makes them tasty. Many tasty foods do not have any toxic traits. At the same time in most developed, non-starving parts of this world people over eat what is tasty. A major part of this over eating happens from our metabolism slowing down but our appetites not receding. (If I really couldn't eat the way I use to, my slightly but clearly over weight condition would not have happened. The problem comes because I can and have eaten like a teenager but I really shouldn't.) I also believe that along the longevity journey our bodies along with the collection of additional flora and fauna in or digestive tracts metabolize foods a little differently. This can result in temporary and occasionally permanent changes to which food an individual can tolerate. But this does not mean that that food is toxic, just it should not be eaten by that person.

To each his own.

It was not my intention to imply that "all yummy meals must" have toxins in them, rather it was my intention to explain that just because it doesn't make your colon fall out or your gall bladder implode doesn't mean it is 'good'

It certainly was not my intention to suggest that without 'toxin' food is bland, in fact most toxins are rather unpleasant tasting... this being the primary purpose of having a sense of taste.

some things which are not toxic interact with other things that aren't toxic to create something new that is potentially highly toxic. As a poor example (since this is not 'ingestion') take the gas released when you cut open an onion that interacts with tears to make sulphuric acid and a burning eyed crying cook. To take it a step further, even pure water is toxic to the body if you drink enough.

One of the ancient monotheistic religions bans meat and dairy products as a combination - like most of the "religious" food laws it has some basis in fact.

I'm being a bit lazy;

foods don t mix

don t mix foods fight

drugs don t mix

can you mix vitamins

vitamins don t work

liquids that don t mix

don t mix bleach

don t mix guns

I have no idea how the last one got on that ! My own suggestion is sweetcorn and Guinness. No, I'm not saying why - it was a long time ago, and Armitage Shanks have dropped the legal case.

Durian and alchohol.

My wife informed me that Umeboshi (Japanese pickle plum) and makes a bad combination with eel, although she does not recall what specifically is bad for you...just something she was taught growing up.

Another thought related to this post is the eating contests that are presented, usually over legal holidays like, the 4th. There is the hot dog eating contest held every year at Coney Island where you see how many hot dogs you can consume within a given time. you see guys that weigh 300# losing out to a Japanese fellow who weighs half that. We know hot dogs are not a very nutritious food and the 300# person is ample evidence of that, but what about the Japanese guy who won by consumming 73? dogs? I wonder what it does to his system.

Either the guy suffers from bulimia or has the shortest small intesitinal system and the worlds largest colon. Only his internist knows for sure.

Last time I saw this kind of thing it was a Japanes girl/young lady. Real slightly built gal. This one's a guy, but I'm sure there's a more recent one as mentioned. Might be here. All pretty disgusting.

What happens when you eat pasta and anti-pasta together? Is there an event horizon?

LOL!!!