Help, My Mattress!

Move out of the Bermuda Triangle.

Come on, give the guy a break. He asked a serious question. Give him a serious answer.

My suggestions are as follows; Sleep alone. Double sided tape. Velcro. Duct tape. Long nails.

OK,

Can you set waypoints during the night? Maybe it's just re positioning itself. I don't know.

Duct tape can't fix everything.

Limit switches, and slow linear motion motors. Or use fast linear motion motors, and have a vibrating bed. What, you forgot to shake up your medicine before turning in, No Problem

Very strange, but whatever direction I fit the box springs (or spring boxes?) and or the old mattress the displacement is always 315 degrees North, North West.

And the distance about 2 feet, no matter if I sleep left, right, diagonally, transversal.

And it happens when I sleep alone in the bed or in multiple situations.

The new mattress is 50/50, meaning half memory and half regular foam.

I am neither overloading nor stressing (pin pointing) the mattress.

The mattress with springs on the boxes remains in place, only the top tech mattress lives its own live. It also appears upside down.

The whole mattress sits in a tight slope (bag with zipper) and sometimes it looks that even in there it is taking a position - I see that in the corners)

Bob came up with some things to try that will lead to a divorce. But thanks for thinking with me. D.

Well,

Can you tell us more about those, "multiple situations."?

That may be the problem.

The new mattress is 50/50, meaning half memory and half regular foam.

That may be the problem. Could your new mattress be suffering from memory loss?

Boy, am I on a roll here or what? Well so is the mattress.

If those, " multiple situations" are what I think they are, it's a good thing the "new mattress is suffering from memory loss?"

have you tried moving the entire mattress assemblage about two feet 315 degrees NNW to satisfy the positional urges of the memory foam?

have you considered that, living in the Caribbean, your mattress assemblage may be placed on a fault line, and that a mattress made by NASA might have secret security functions such as sensing danger and minimizing risks? In effect, moving you and or multiple bed guests to a safer location?

if you leave the mattress where it wormed to during the first night, what will it do the second night?

When tossing and turning, make sure to do half clockwise and half CCW?

Or make a wood frame that extends about 2" above the bottom of the mattress, thereby restraining it.

Tornado.

According the infomercial this is the mattress that eliminates tossing and turning. I will give you a good answer for the frame, but only after it works.

My concern is that the mattress is pretty heavy, compared to a regular one and it can really climb in its bag cover.

I can make a frame in e.g. 1 1/4" thick High density furniture panels, but still I fear it will be bowing out and /or damage the mattress. I even matrixed the mattress and did local load tests to see if the composition was homogeneous. And not with a glass of wine as in the commercial. I have been thinking it might occur because of difference in mass or behavior in retension time, due to the foam versus the springs?

To eliminate nuts that are left loose from rotating from vibrations, pump manufacturers use unbalanced nuts.

Perhaps attaching a concrete block to one hand, and one foot will prevent the tossing and turning.

Memory foam mattresses are not intended for use on 'box springs', or on top of other mattresses. (I have one, and that's what the manufacturer said; it would invalidate the warranty.) They should be used on a riser, only. It may be that the foam mattress worms its way across the other mattress as you toss and turn at night.

Mine is a very comfortable mattress, but it has one major drawback: it's too good as a thermal insulator. The foam absorbs my body heat and molds to my shape, but the heat doesn't diffuse very well through the foam, so after a few hours the foam gets a bit warm.

If you insist on your configuration, you might need to make some corner braces that are held in place with straps between the two mattresses.

It may be that the foam mattress worms

Wow. First it was bed bugs, now mattress worms.

Ok, for real, What about a 1X 4 spacer around the perimeter of the mattress, with an other 1x4 screwed perpendicular to the first, so as to form an extruded Tee. That should keep both pieces aligned for you.

Bob

What Ok, for real?

I read your comments, especially while pointing at the real importance of the tread, as real (ly funny). Referring to the 1 X 4, do you consider pressure treated wood? I thought about some resistance against worming in particular.

I do not think I would use pressure treated lumber in that close a contact to me for as many hours as that wood would be near the people sleeping on the mattress. Plain pine, would be fine for the horizontal part. Perhaps a more decorative style of pine for the vertical section. I was thinking of a baseboard molding, or wide chair rail molding.

Hi USB, The worms move is a perfect description, I learned something new and your dedication warms my heart.

My mattress however doesn't stop "worming", even on the floor.

What is your riser?

Can it be that it stops the mattress from breathing? Mine is really not hot, but you make me wonder what is the compromise to take.

I definitely will need a high riser, plus if you refer to a panel layer underneath, I also miss comfort or freedom of sleep.

I don't like feeling something hard underneath, when you elbow or knee it down and I don't look forward starting wearing pads to sleep. Is yours also 50/50? For Lynn,

Since the house I live in is referred to as the Hurricane Bunker it bunks many specimen of the human race on those occasions as per 6 feet by 2,5 feet average.

I remember from my drinking (a few to many) days unexpected mattress movements can be combated by sleeping with one foot on the floor. (17 feet is excessive).

Does the movement correspond with the Coriolis effect for water discharge?

Could you rather post a picture?

I am getting really confused now.

That many answers:

You start talking about drinking, Bob is referring to a AA battery.

Guys, (and Dolls). I am sober and well aware that all these propositions will give me a lot forced labor when my sweetie gets to read these posts. I tried the plywood already but that is too firm. Moves less, but still a lot of re- positioning work.

It is against family policy (from 1659) to publicize bed details, be it by talk, word, picture of photograph.

I promise that I will keep you all posted and wish to thank you you all for the input.

Hi dvmdsc

One has to eliminate all the unworthy possibilities first.

A picture (not an action photo) will help because here in Africa we are a bit isolated from all the wonderful stuff available. My policy is not to bring junk mail into the house (for financial reasons).

My sober vote goes to the direction of the bristles in the material (top or bottom) These tiny pieces of material are capable of moving something (there is strength in unity (if everyone do its best))

Being possibly a bit too serious;

Q 1 are you in the position to complain to the retailer or manufacturer ?

If so; foam latex is known to be "Too Hot" across the bedding industry. Many manufactures recognise this - and will - if pushed - exchange the product for an alternate construction.

Q 2. are you showing any sings of irritation (aside from the geo-graphing) ?

If so; quiet a few people are 'unknowingly' allergic to latex - again an exchange argument accepted across retailers and manufacturers.

Or basically your symptoms are typical of a latex foam "gets too hot" owner.

_{(and yes sighing folks, I'm linked into the bedding design and development field too, annoying ain't it)}

My Chinese language isn't good enough. The only irritation I show is caused by having to move the mattress back in place every day. But the mattress is really not that hot. (maybe there is a lot of lead in it, because it's heavy. LOL)

Now you tell us! Of course it wants to be sideways!

Yes, indifferent how I turn it. It is almost square.

I suspect the spring mattress under it is the suspect, because of the spring placement. (spiral springs, that always keep the same direction - wind characteric)

My objection to the bristle (or pile) theory is the statement (from the OP): " ... the mattress moves up to 2 feet left or right during the night ... ".

I think the movement would be consistently to one side or the other if due to the action of bristles.

Be afraid.....

Invest in something with more control

How about trying anti-slip tape or mats as used under carpet inserted between the mattress and box spring?

Have you tried reversing your position on the mattress, head to feet and feet to head? I'm wondering if you do that will the mattress move southeast instead?

This will also tell you if you are polarized or not.

You may be on to something there. Have you seen this?

Direct Current Energy Sensitivity.

Usbport maybe right not made to be placed on top of box springs.

Problem is your weight is collapsing the springs producing a down hill slope. Weight of you and mattress is sliding down slope as you sleep on the slippery new underside of the mattress. Since you are delighted with the height try a sheet of plywood between the mattress and box springs. Will help to distribute your weight more evenly on the box springs.

If that does not work use the plywood and build a box like structure. The same height as the box springs to place the mattress on. Make the box so it will fit into the existing bed frame.

May want to fill it with foam just in case the tide comes in higher then expected. Also tether the box structure down to the floor. We wouldn't want you to drift off.

^{_{Sorry if this has already been said, I only skimmed through previous replies , but:}}

Maybe the memory substance remembers when it was happiest - flat on the floor without a dvmdsc on top - and it's trying to crawl back to that state.

I remember from way back something in a cryogenics lecture. If memory serves, liquid ³He at a couple of °K will crawl up the sides of the containing vessel, then down the outside, to find its friends in the bucket underneath, or a lower potential state, or something.

Maybe the memory mattress remembers better than I do.

Just saying.

You are zuffering from ze severe precession.