Direct Current Energy Sensitivity.

Howard,

Have you ever tried tasting a 9 volt battery by licking the contacts? Yumm.

If you put on a pair of roller skates and then held the battery in front of you with the negative side facing you, would you roll forward?

I had a girlfriend in college who was AC/DC, but that may be off-topic.

Hi: Thanks for you comment.

A 9 volt battery does not work as an energy source. This is because the + and - terminals are close to to-gether on the same end of the battery. This why the 1.2 volt battery seems to work to best for this test. I would not recommend liking the terminals of any battery you just never know what was there before. Howard.

Do you wear a tin foil hat when performing this "experiment"?

If you detect a note of skepticism you should.

If you held a 4 cell flashlight close to your chest would it knock you over?

Now, just for you, after I get home from work I'm going to ingest a couple shots of tequila and try this experiment.

That is if I can get out of that damn box that I'm in in another thread. The cat didn't help, either.

I also feel similar attractive and repulsive forces caused by psychological perceptions. I find myself initially attracted to interesting topics, then repulsed by bad scientific test methods.

You need to perform your testing with the assistance of another person and in a double-blind manner before you can properly conclude that you have the reaction you claim.

Hi Everyone: I to have a real problem with psychological perceptions, bad scientific test methods and the like. I am the True Engineer for the Show Me State of Missouri.

For many years I tried to declaim the test in every way possible But in the end the results were the same. If I ignored the test results I got sick. If I excepted what the test results were telling me I could enjoy selected foods and medications without fear of being Uncomfortably sick for 10 days or so.

For those of you who would like more info on similar test called the "sway test" please check out the following link.

http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=applied+kinesiology+self+testing&aq=6sx&aqi=g-s1g-sx9&aql=&oq=Applied+Ken&gs_rfai=&fp=4f87f900b18d902b

The "sway test" is used by many Chiropactors and Naturalpathic Doctors and described in detail on one or more of the links. This particular "sway test" does not work as described for me at all.

Once again thanks for all your thoughts. Howard.

In an effort to eliminate the test subject from tilting the results, I am going to make a small change in the testing procedure. in stead of the subject standing on his feet, I am going to suspend the subject from a rope before exposing him to the battery. Does anyone think the results will be any different?

I went to that link Howard, Its how to do the sway test.I fear you won't find many people who will go along with it here on the cr4 forums. In fact, I think most people will think it is quackery of the first water. If it works for you, then you should be able to do it any time, any where under double blilnd conditions.

Hi: I can not do the sway test as described on this site either. For many years I did not trust the results that I was obtaining from the modified test that I use for checking for possible problem foods and chemicals. After checking my results against the results my Allergist received from his instruments and tests I became a believer.

My results were in the area of 90 to 95 % accurate while my allergist results were on the area 70 to 80 % accurate.

My allergist used a wide variety of tests ranging from chemical challenge tests, Electronic ( Vega instrument ) testing to Electronic medicine as practiced in China and East Europe. Over Several years of semi blind testing I did eventually become a believer. This is why I want to try and help others with similar conditions.

My plan is to go forward with Double Blind testing in mid September. The tests will be setup and viewed by a team of professional people who are mainly Professional Engineers.

I will be publishing the results ( Good or Bad ) on this group in a separate thread.

Thank you again for your time and comments. Howard From Oakville.

How long from when you first smoke the weed until the testing starts?

Also if a 1.5 volt battery does this to you how do you cope with the hundreds to even thousands of volts of static electricty that build up around you when you walk on carpet or anywhere else for that matter?

Hi: All I can say is actually try the test and then coment. You might actually learn something.

Hi: Thank you for the suggested format for the Blind Tests. I am putting together a team of professional people to setup, view and verify such a test in the manor that you describe. I expect to preform the Double Blind tests in Mid September. I then will post the results ( Good or Bad ) to the group on a separate thread.

As Always I take every comment very seriously. Howard from Oakville.

So what happens if you get exposed to AC? Do you just sway back and forth, or do you wriggle all over like John Travolta on the dance floor? If it's the latter, I suggest that you take full advantage of your unique "talent" to earn money by entering as many dance contests as possible.

Or maybe it isn't the battery at all. Maybe you were in the line of sight of my Force telekinetic exercises and were affected by them.

Or maybe you're simply still suffering from the residual effects of a Force telepathic mind control experiment I carried out some time ago.

Lord Vader out.

The battery polarity had apparently caused the toad's hands to move as predicted by the OP.

Can't use a flash light?

Thousands of other typical home and shop items?

Now if there was a taser involved I could understand the backing up

If there was a vibrator involved I suppose some would be attracted and some repelled

I remember some clown going on about the magnetic lines around the earth and how they affected us. He wanted everyone to buy his book in order to understand what he was talking about.

So, I just went to the store and bought a gross of AA batteries. I'm going to sew them into a back pack and use them for propulsion when I skate.

No, wait! Do I have to wear it on my chest? Please help me, I'm about to install the batteries and I need to know which way to point them.

I'll be stuck watching NASCAR till I find out. Hurry!

Instead of pulling and pushing you should try what I did. It took a long while but worked as you can see.

Good luck.

How bad is the chaffing?

Hi Everyone: Before you Totally Dump this thread into the Dumpster I would invite you to read the following Link.

ttp://journalinformationalmedicine.org/hbf.htm

I do want the Thank Everyone who took the time to comment on this thread.

The good part is the test is still working for me. I use a modified version almost ever day to determine if I will have problems with foods I eat or the medications that I take.

Most of us except the fact the people with peanut allergies and sensitivities can become very ill if exposed to a micro amount of a peanut or a trace of peanut oil in a food product. I am able to detect the presence of a micro amount of a peanut products in foods by using the modified version on this test. For the past several years the test has not let me done.

You do not need to use a battery to perform this test. You can just use your personal battery powered watch. When I use my watch as an energy source, I place the face of my watch facing my chest. The result is I am forced backwards. If I place the watch face facing away from my chest I will be forced forward.

This test is a very personal test. It is not a test that could be used in a clinical setting in its present state. Each personal is an individual. Some who people who experiment with this test may feel no reaction at all while others will experience their own special set of reactions.

Go Figure: Howard.

Howard,

I apologize for insulting you.

I have not read the link, yet. I am truly happy that these tests help you. Please continue to do what's best for you and if this test makes you better, that's great.

You have taken the ridicule well. I did to the thing with the battery, but, nothing.

Good luck to you, sorry I couldn't help.

Howard,

After contemplating the fact that divining rods actually work, I feel compelled to apologize as well.

I am sorry.

What the...wait a minute, Journal of Informational Medicine?

I retract my appology.......

No, I apologize, really this time.

The Journal of Informational Medicine seems to have a lot in common with my fantasy fiction books - except that I expect my books are more accurate.

Quote from the web site,'

The subject of scalar physics is fraught with all kinds of political, commercial and scientific controversy; some say a conspiracy by governments and corporations to keep scalar phenomena a secret because of its both helpful and harmful potential.'

I just love the governmental/corporate conspiracies that prevent the citizen from having access to xyz BS. There is no conspiracy!

That web site is for the 1st class loonies of wacky land!

Well there is a lot of it

here's one bit that stuck out

In 2008, a research team led by Hynek Burda using the program "Google Earth" accidentally discovered that magnetic fields do affect the body orientation of cows and deer during grazing and/or resting. In a followup study in 2009, Hynek Burda and Sabine Begall observed that magnetic fields generated by AC power lines actively disrupted the orientation of cows to the magnetic field lines of the Earth. This is compelling evidence that this phenomenon is real and has a direct effect upon the HBF.

& a fun Picture

What on earth is the red part? Effects of spicy foods?

Another study disclosed that the cows where suffering from M.A.D. (Magnetic Anomaly Detection) cow disease.

Aren't most high voltage powerlines AC?

& aren't the various magnetic lines around the earth, closer to DC?

I like the pink parts myself

I saw another thread about the re-introduction of HVDC distribution. so it must be that most are AC, for long distances at least.

Objects (coils) passing through at right angles to the earth's flux lines would produce AC. (this statement subject to further review by professionals). I wonder if snakes avoid coiling under high voltage wires?(subject for another discussion?)

As the cows pass through these flux lines, they become udderly disoriented, so there is no telling what sort of behavior Japanese cows would exhibit.

We live at "ground zero" here. Even Captain Cook got his bearings wrong. It might explain why I am standing still although making progress. All in the mind. And all over matter. I feel sorry for .......???? It'll come to me, Ky.

There is no argument that everyone is different and that each of us have the potential for unique problems and/or abilities. However, a true impartial test is required to determine if the noted conditions are real or only imagined. The mind can have a powerful influence on the body, but the question is whether the stated effect is actually physiological or psychological. A double blind test can determine this.

IMO, the site link provided contains one of the most creative (and useless) collections of historical, scientific, mythical, and spiritual anecdotes I've ever seen. I have to give the site author credit for spinning such an enormous mix of plausible and implausible information that many readers will just acquiesce and accept all the information as fact.

There is rumor that the paper was actually written by either Professor Irwin Corey, or a member of the Self Proclaimed Erudite League (SPEL).

There's too much ground to miss.

Anyway, this doesn't compare to: Omniscience, is The Origin of Conscience and Science!

Cheers.

I had a similar thing happen to me. I was changing out batteries on a golf cart (48 volt). I removed the dead batteries with no problem. But when I went to attach the new batteries, I was amazed to find that it was harder to put the positive battery cable on the first battery than the negative post. As I worked my way through the batteries, it became more noticeable. The negative post would almost drag me to the battery, while the positive post became almost impossible to get my hand to.

I am thankful that the voltage was not any higher. I could have been hurt.

Hi: Thank-you for your interest and the results of your test. I personally do not have a peanut allergy as recognised in the Medical Community. My Grandson does have such a peanut allergy. I do have a peanut sensitivity. If I consume products containing micro amounts of peanuts or peanut oil I will become ill. I do not rely on the battery test for any of my sensitivity testing. I use a modified version of the battery test of this purpose. The only purpose of the battery test is to determine in an individual is sensitive to + or - DC power sources.

My purpose for posting this topic to the group was to see if there might be some interest and what the response from this community would be. I am truly amazed at the reaction to this topic. I was expecting 0 to NO reaction. That has not been the case.

The reaction has been such that I will be moving ahead with Double Blind Studies probably in mid to late September of this year. I am currently assembling a short list of professional personal namely P.Eng's. who will view and certify all aspects of these tests.

I would like input from all on how the group would like to see the Double Blind test setup and the type of Results Verification Documentation they would like to see.

When the tests are completed I will publish the results on this group for further peer review.

Thanks to All for your input: Howard from Oakville ON.

Hi Thank very much for your encouragement. When I posted this tread I did not expect the path to be smooth. I was just hoping that I might find some who would actually do the test as described and experience similar results. The responses have been a way more that I ever expected. Thank You To All.

We must always keep in mind the battery has no part in the test that I use to identify my food and chemical sensitivities. The battery is used only to supply an identifiable (+)positive and (-) negative polarity energy source. I used the battery only to show what polarity actually pushes me forward or backwards no more or no less.

Once We have completed the Double Blind Study and posted the results (good or Bad) I will then describe in detail the test that I actually use to identify problem foods and chemicals. I am hoping this test will be of some benefit to the many who suffer from Electrical and Multiple Chemical Sensitives as I do.

You mentioned You Know people in Oakville. I would be pleased for them to come and view the blind test, hopefully in late September or early October. Could you send more info in a private CR-4 email so they can be included.

Once again Thanks to All the group for all your comments and questions. Howard.

You probably are on to the actual mechanism.

the batteries are just a prop, the sub conscious mind being far more accurate in many of these matters than we can measure.

there is something to the power of positive thinking [not in the over the top delusional way]

I have experienced the results of extended concentration on a goal, what ever you would like to call it

You are what you think

everyone has their own way of defining their connection to source, which by it's nature is is impossible to define

it is always important to do your due diligence & this is not the best venue for this conversation in terms of the intangible aspects...

I certainly have not been as harsh as I would to someone in the realms of overunity

I'm Very Interested In Hearing Some Half-Baked Theories

As an ill-informed pseudo-intellectual with a particular interest in the unverifiable, I'm always on the lookout for some partially thought out misinformation. So, if you have an uninformed solution to a dilemma that doesn't actually exist, don't bother double-checking your information. I'm all ears.

However, I must warn you: If you want to convince me of anything, you better be prepared to back up your claims with rumor, circumstantial evidence, or hard-to-make-out photographic proof. I may also need friend-of-a-friend corroboration or several signed testimonials all written in the same unmistakably spidery handwriting. I'm a quasi-critical-thinker. Things have to add up more or less in my head before I let myself be taken in by some baloney story.

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Hi: Thank you for your interest and attached links.

As I mentioned in another reply I will be moving forward with Double Blind Tests probably in mid September. I will be publishing the results on separate thread for the group to provide a peer review of the findings ( Good or Bad ). If this research will help one person avoid the Electrical and/or Chemical sensivity issues that I have experienced for more that 30 years it will be worth the effort.

I am looking forward to reading your peer reviews of the test results ( Good or Bad )

Once again Thanks for your time and responses. Howard

Love it!

Hi: Great Comment. Why not connect one end of a booster cable to one post on the battery and hold the other end near his chest bone. Please do not touch him with the cable. You may be surprised with the results. As Always: Howard.

Howard,

As much as I would like to try the booster cable experiment, my neighbor has not quite recovered and is convinced he has been visited by Saint Elmo.

In dealing with a group of batteries, that are each 8 volts, and arranged in series to produce a combined voltage of 48, What would you expect the reaction to the individual connections of the batteries to be? the positive of the first battery is connected to the negative of the second battery. The positive of the second is connected to the negative of the third. And so on.

Would the reaction be different from one end of that connecting cable to the other?

Thank you for the questions: In regard to the expected reaction I would expect the result would be the same as described in test. When I first began experimenting with using a battery as an energy source reference I used a 9 volt battery. When I positioned the battery terminals near my chest I experienced no reaction at all. It appears that because the terminals were close together one polarity cancelled out the other. To get the 9 volt battery to work I attached about 3 ft of wire to one terminal and held the other end about 2 to 4 ins away from my lower chest bone. I experienced the same results as I do now with the AA battery or watch battery. It would appear that voltage has no effect on the results of the test. I have not worked recently with DC voltages in the 40 volt range so I really have no personal experience to share. I do know that if I was working near DC voltages in this range I would be very careful.

Thanks a gain for your question hope this helps. Howard