Orangutan Muscle

Interesting idea, Dr Frankenstein....

Rather than the gene, it might be a multitude of genes acting in concert.

Would this gene infuse 6x strength in all muscles? _{^{(Doorman put me up to it)}}

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And why are all the warehouse workers sitting in bathtubs?

Seems like there are "chemicals" already getting a human pretty much there aside from the experimental gene implementations. I remember some of the yard apes working out in my gym back in the day could pretty much accomplish that task. It came by the many street-ish names of Dinabol, Test-siponate, Anadrol 50, Deca, and one used on horses called Equipoise, to name just a few. I thought watching guy's (granted genetics were still a definite factor) squat 900 lbs was pretty amazing. Now 1,100 to 1,200 is common place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwNlUTekYWA&feature=related Hurts just thinking it. The strong man competitions should include an Orangutan, would be interesting!

Yea, and wouldn't it be interesting to watch these human apes try to build a nest in a tree to sleep the night away. Did you know that in areas where there is little or no threat from attacks by tigers that the orangutans only mate when the female says it's OK, but where tigers are a real threat of attack, sex is abundant! It is like get it while you can, for we don't know just when the last time is going to occur! "Hey", will that creme work as a tiger repellant?

TooMuchFun

"Did you know that in areas where there is little or no threat from attacks by tigers that the orangutans only mate when the female says it's OK"

What? You must have not gotten the memo! I think this scenario exists for most human males! No wonder they share 99% genetic coding, or is that chimps? Regardless, women pretty much dictate that "condition". _{(don't let my wife see this! This song pretty much states the obvious, comically of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj4vLZJhNEk}

I believe that it is on the island of Borneo that there seems to be a Tigers eating Orangutans issue. I read an article about this matter many years ago. It seems that the females willingly give in to male ambitions just to keep the males around for defence from the tigers. I have never heard of a tiger vs male orangutan event, but it is my understanding that the male orangutans only fear crocodiles, and only then while swimming.

TMF

Gotcha!

I am going to drag a tiger into the bedroom and see how I go!

Shall I leave the tiger in a cage though?

Flintstones comes to mind! They must have cut the good scenes!

What are u you going to do with the tiger inside the bedroom?

With brain power (indirectly) proportional to muscle power they are clever enough not to go into politics.

Maybe we could extract some Sloth genes to speed up our factory manager?
Del

This thread has gone on to interesting ideas, but I have a question about the original post.

Do we know that the muscle fibers themselves are stronger or that some of the 6-times comes from mechanical leveraging in the way the animals are constructed.

Actually a correction is in order - that should be 5,99963247514 times stronger - HiTek rounded the number off. Total lack of precision!

Certainly a big part of their ability comes from rather long arms.

From what I have gathered, they put muscle fibers into a tensile strength machine, and test to the breaking point. Ape muscle is 6 times stronger than human. A 'tan has more strength in one finger than an athlete has in his whole body.

When a person encounters pain, he stops applying pressure to the muscle, before it tears.Same with other animals.It takes much more to cause pain in an ape muscle.

There was a case of a wild chimp pulling a mans arms completely off.They are incredibly strong.And the 'tan is the strongest of them all.Having that particular gene set in humans would be incredible, provided that everything else remained the same;intelligence,etc.

will you be the test "ape"?

After the incident with the bananas, the Olympic officials decided to postpone the wrestling event.....

It would lead to premature wear out of our joints which give us enough trouble as it is due to our selfish desire to live longer than about 50.
Del

Hi,

It seems that one or two genes have been found, but... There is more... Please, read this interesting article http://www.slate.com/id/2212232/

Chimps /orang have another muscle/skeleton architecture and they are probably 2 times stronger than us. Genes that gives them this force seems already activated in part of the human sport elite...

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!

a grasshopper can jump 20 times its own length... a flea can jump 200 times its own length. but I don't want to meet they guy they put those genes into.

especially the flea, who knows what the side effects would be, and i have a relatively limited blood supply.

It it always looked hard on his jeans

Other than for military purposes and even that is limited, I don't see the point in these experiments. Why recreate or change the human body at "x" cost when we can cheaply and fairly efficiently make a machine that can do almost everything that needs to be done with the capability of doing much more than any animal (includes humans as animals) possibly ever could?

Unless these gene therapies are going to allow us to travel through space for long periods of time, we have other more important things that should be studied at the taxpayers expensive.

Wow, we're going to make Planet of the Apes a reality.

Now what we need to do is isolate the gene that gives humans their intelligence and somehow introduce that into the orangatangs and chimpanzees.

Perhaps they could try the intelligence gene on politicians first.

would never work... politicians only have enough chromosomes to reproduce!

okay... perhaps that isn't fair...

some can have extracurricular activities... like being a witch, etc.

I think the Politicians are the result of monkey gene testing.

It may be possible, as what I have read indicates that some of the reduction in musculature in humans derives from gene defects, some of whih have been identified. However, it appears that it is this gene defect that allowed our brains to develop so much larger and complex, due to some lack of stresses on the skull and lesser early development of the musculature that halts the capability of the skull to expand and stunts brain development. So yes you may get the intended strength development but it may cost you human mental aptitude and/or some other human advantages. Of course this is a type of therapy that would have to be undertaken at a very early stage of human development, as Apes begin developing much of their adult strength at a very early age.

I am not sure anyone would try this for soldiers as the benefits would likely not be worth the capabilities you would lose. However, for most athletics and sports except a few highly competitive and strategic team sport positions. Afterall athletics in the maodern era is really about entertainment, and apes are just more entertaining, but apes boxing, UFC, baseball, gymnastics, pole vaulting, golfing, shotput or javelin. Of course sprinting and distance running would be out as they are not so developed, and there is a good chance that their musculature impacts how their hips and such develop effecting their ability to walk and run unpright.

Well said! I was just thinking that some of the greatest minds today came at a great price to the physical capabilities of those people. One person that comes to mind is Professor Stephen W. Hawking.

That really isn't the same thing. Stephen Hawking was intelligent before he became disabled in adulthood. Genetic modification of the musculature would be something that would need to be done at a very young age to get the results you see in apes, and thus could effect development.

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