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Identify This Machine

12/20/2010 12:14 AM

Need an open gear compound for this apparatus.

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12/20/2010 12:33 AM

Before I stick my neck out too far - is that drum a flat belt drive or a governor/brake?

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12/20/2010 8:59 AM

Chicken....

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12/20/2010 8:59 PM

Ah Ha - secret clue received and understood

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12/20/2010 9:59 AM

Is it the whole machine or just the reduction gears from the assembly? As it appears to have pads where it was or something was mounted to it.

So as a stand alone machine it's gear reducer. What to? Possibly a draw works.

Other then that it's a boat anchor.

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12/20/2010 6:20 PM

ozzb,

I agree that it is a reduction gear set, with a ratchet cog. The pinions engaged something mounted on the pads (perhaps a cable drum?).

Maybe it is for an anchor.

As far as lubrication, a spray-on open gear lube would work.

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12/20/2010 10:13 AM

Oh thanks, you found the self windy thingy for my Timex!

So what make of crane is it from?

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12/20/2010 2:08 PM

Why would you want to bend a chook canon?

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12/20/2010 5:45 PM

We call 'em chicken guns north of the equator.

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12/21/2010 1:49 AM

So is it a device to bend pipes then?

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12/21/2010 8:05 AM

We actually have one of those at the National Research Center in Ottawa. They fire frozen chickens from it, to test aircraft wind screens and canopy's.

The only question I have. If the chicken remains intact, is it still good for the BBQ?

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12/21/2010 9:00 AM

You shouldn't freeze the chicken. A cannon ball would be just as effective and not waste food. Unless, that is, you have a good recipe for barbequed cannon balls.

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12/21/2010 9:13 AM

It's an urban myth that the birds were frozen. They were actually thawed. And they were covered by MIL-SPECs too.

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12/21/2010 9:43 AM

If they were covered by MIL-Specs, then you might as well have used a phone book... =b

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12/23/2010 9:04 PM

Back when I worked at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas (circa early 1980's), there was a real live Chicken Gun on the first floor of the building where my office was located. There was no ignoring it when the thing fired. At one time, live chickens were reportedly fired from the thing, followed by further testing with dead chickens, followed ultimately by a mass developed to provide the same impact physics as a live bird...

This has absolutely nothing to do with the OP's photo or question, but your post brought back fond memories...

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12/26/2010 6:14 PM

Bet the mass ended up being about 15 lbs of ballistic gelatin with some bones mixed in. That would have been my first approximation of a chicken substitute.

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12/20/2010 8:01 PM

I don't know if it's available in every NAPA store (it is here), but spray-can "Chain and Cable Lube" ought to work.

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12/20/2010 10:48 PM

looks like an old hay baler, connect belt to side wheel of tractor when parked beside it, a conveyor would have run from one side, at a given speed and the other components drive the baling processto the hopper feed and so on,

though it could simply be an old clock mech from the land of the giants film set.

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12/20/2010 11:25 PM

Exxon-Mobil makes a NGLI 0 grease for mining operations which would probably work well.

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12/20/2010 11:55 PM

I like old junque, but I don't know what this is. Looks like it is to drive a rack back and forth using the small gears at the bottom front. But how does it reverse?

The drum: It is quite wide for the belt drives I have seen, but it is divided into 3 sections--why? Is there anything inside this drum; maybe gearing, maybe perhaps possibly for reversal by shifting the belt sideways??

Yes, the mentioned open gear lubes should work fine. But consider how you are going to use it. Probably just for demos if that; in other words, very low loads compared to what it was designed for. Therefore, any old grease or even oil would probably be adequate.

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12/21/2010 3:19 AM

Looks like the headgear of a belt conveyor, possibly old quarry equipment. Modern drives are by Torque reducer or worm drive gearbox.

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12/21/2010 6:16 AM

This is Tumbler a kind of polishing machine wherein leather felts are used for polishing of the components.We had used for polishing of Link Chains.You can use grease for lubrication of the open gears.

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12/21/2010 7:13 AM

Looks like a drive for an old elevator.

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12/21/2010 7:21 AM

They use a soap-like grease on railroad cars.Comes in bars and you drop it between friction points.Will not migrate or fling off readily.

Looks like a drive for an ancient elevator or lift to me.There is a shaft missing,perhaps having a pawl for the ratchet gears?

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12/21/2010 7:27 AM

How about the drive for a crane boom (or similar)?

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12/21/2010 7:28 AM

Whatever it is the number 5 painted on it would tend to indicate that there were at least 4 more of them in close proximity.

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12/21/2010 8:08 AM

It looks like a drive assembly from an old conveyor. That drum looking thing would be the pulley the belt was pulled around, and the gearing would be a reduction system. That small gear thing closest to the camera would be where a spline gear would connect the motor's drive shaft, maybe?

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12/21/2010 8:10 AM

I have no idea what it may be, other than after reading one to many Steve King books, the only thought that comes to me is "The Mangler"

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12/21/2010 8:12 AM

I haven't the foggiest notion what it is, but is sure is a nice one!

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12/21/2010 9:16 AM

I've seen similar drive arrangement in DRI – Direct Reduced Iron plant. The briquettes/ingots from briquetting machine drops down into water quench tank, over a chain conveyer. The sprocket drive for this chain conveyer works in very nasty surrounding. Water, steam and flakes/dusts of iron scales etc, would not allow conventional sprocket/chain drives and lubrication of this drive was near impossible. Rest of the upstream drives (in this case three steps of 'spur gear' reductions) are also open to harsh ambience, steam and abrasive dusts. We tried all kind of lubricants including carbon powder, nickel power spray, molybdenum grease, etc. Noting worked effectively. Had to apply some lubricant spray, mostly hourly.

In this arrangement the drum looks unique but sensible. Motor maintenance used to be very frequent due to harsh ambience. I remember all maintenance activities were on war foot and failures here and there around this final product line were unmanageably huge. This was the story some 20 years back, hope and wish the situation should be much better now due to technological advancements. So motor, in this case, is well placed, much away from this nasty surrounding. Perhaps sorted to belt drive since other drives may not be suitable here. The drum looks have fast/loose pulley arrangement.

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12/21/2010 9:32 AM

My guess is it is a speed increaser. Input is to the large gear on the far side at the front. 2 chains driven by the cogs on that shaft and driving the lower-most shaft. Then through 2 overdrive sets (look to be at least 1:10), and finally driving the drum to run the belt.

If it runs the other way (belt driven reducer), the flow would have been drum thru 2 reductions driving a chain driving the shaft in front. The output would be the large gear on the far side, and it probably drove an even larger gear.

All of those open spokes and gears would make modern an OSHA inspect scream in terror! And yes, Stephen King could definite find creative uses for this device.

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12/21/2010 12:58 PM

This construction is a well known part of agriculture. It was popular in straw choppers, wind blowers to separate grain from dirt, branches choppers of and also in winches. It was usually enclosed in wooden housing.

Manual torque converter I would name it today. Just a piece of history!

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12/22/2010 11:17 PM

dont know but keep your fingers away from it.

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12/23/2010 9:44 PM

Big Ben in the repair shop!

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12/26/2010 4:50 PM

I am half tempted to say it is what is left of the drive mechanism from a old steam shovel that was in a mine or large gravel pit.

The two big gears on the large shaft at the front would be the set of pinion gears that drove the rack in and out to move the dipper bucket up and down.

As far as lube goes heavy grease would be what I would use.

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12/26/2010 10:08 PM

Ok bwire, I give in what is the darn thing?

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12/31/2010 12:51 AM

It operates a lift gate on an old man-made canal somewhere up in New England.

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12/31/2010 6:40 AM

That makes sense, well at least I think it does.

Thanks for the thread by the way.

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Found at goodwill. No markings. Quality construction.

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I reccomend you start a new thread: look up and right

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