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Do We Have to Put Up With This Kind of Circunstances?

04/02/2012 11:12 PM

To all the CR4 community members.

Sometime ago, one of the CR4 founding members (bear? ...) posted a thread where he shared his concern on what regards the lower amount of posting, questions, new threads and lack of interest to CR4.

And I ask all of you to not just seat on the fence. Express and stand for your point of view please.

The following could be one of the most contributing reasons why.

At least twice per thread, since November 2008 we have one of our members making rather gnarley comments to say the least, on other members or, even worst, potential members postings.

His screen name currently is "Lyn" ... everyone in this community knows about him ... it's a fact ... and I do have the figures to prove it.

The numbers follow.

To this point "Lyn" has 14746 posts.

He has been a member for 42 Months ... approximately 1260 days.14746/1260 = 11.7

11.7 comments a day.

There's an average 6 treads a day (going down! ...) proposed by members and non members, "Lyn" makes an average 2 comments per thread! ... every single day since he joined!

Most of them (I would say 95%) are just hate filled, no imagination whatsoever , off topic, uncalled for, biased comments.

Are we still wondering why there's lack of interest on what we do here?

Until when are we all going to remain contributing members and tolerate this?

Do we have to put up with this kind of attitude from one single member towards the whole community?

Are we going to let 1 member ruin the whole idea and the beautiful working concept of what we do here?

It's not about "Lyn" personally, it's about the attitude.

I could be wrong and biased.

Please help the forum, please comment.

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04/02/2012 11:35 PM

That sounds a bit rude.....but that could be the brusqueness of email at work.

But....

What do you propose should be the solution to this perceived problem? What form of censorship would you propose?

I believe most of the real problems disappeared when "anonomous" and "guest" were told that this was not some youtube video they were commenting on, and logging in would be required to hold them accountable for their fatuous comments. (Like, you have the right to free speech, but I have the right to see my accuser sort of thing you know.) I thought the moderators came up with a good solution to that. You think there is another problem then hmmmm?

Me...I don't see the problem. Maybe you can explain why you think it is a problem and how you would solve it if YOU were the moderator.

(careful, they make make you into a moderator!!! It is a thankless job...)

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04/03/2012 7:55 AM

I think we should hang em, but we have to be discreet about it.....

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04/03/2012 7:03 PM

"What form of censorship would you propose?"

I would suggest he try the 'if-there's-something-you-don't-want-to-read-there's-nothing-quite-like-not-reading-it' variety.

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04/05/2012 10:25 PM

That would be standing on the side while someone is being bullied / abused.

Every Human being holds the fate of History on it's hands.

.. it's how murdering dictators get to, and stay in power.

It's wrong! absolutely wrong.

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04/05/2012 10:21 PM

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04/02/2012 11:42 PM

You don't seem to have contributed much...I think your criticism of our most prolific member is misguided and misleading....Nobody works for pay here, we are just hanging out...We don't have any duty to perform, this is a chat room...Lyn is very experienced and knowledgeable in many areas, and has seen fit to help thousands of people with complicated and frustrating problems that they may not have solved but for the charitable nature of this great man....er good man....er helpful man...(sorry sometimes I just can't help myself)...A lot of people that still come here, come seeking Lynn's help, so imo you are 180ยบ off the mark...For somebody to come on here posting this crap that has contributed so little, and criticize someone who has worked tirelessly all these years, is a remarkable display of arrogance and disrespect ...now I'm going to stop, because people are lining up to kick your ass, and I don't want to cause a traffic jam...

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04/03/2012 12:05 AM

From what I've seen, most posts (inlcuding Lyn's) are pretty much spot on. In all the posts in all the threads I've been through, I've only seen one or two that I've thought have over stepped the mark - them the MOD has removed them. I wouldn't consider this a problem.

I don't bother posting if the question is obviously homework, or the OP hasn't bothered to use even the most basic information sources (such as google). And I've seen threads where no one has bothered to answer as the question is ridiculous, then the OP has to "poke" for a repsonse.

I think all of us give our (valuable) time with the goal of helping others. But seriously, you can't help poeple unless they are willing to help themselves. And spoon feeding answers to people who don't understand (and are out of thier depth) is (in my opinion) even worse. As the person doens't know how to apply the knowledge in the future (in different situations).

Often many answers I see are harsh, but not underservingly so. Sometimes tough love is needed. Some might say this attitude is lacking in modern society.

And perhaps the numbers (of threads) are decreasing - but can we logically equate that to the comments in the threads - I don't think so. Perhaps CR4 is suffering from lack of relevance, or lack of focus.

The internet is a rapidly changing beast, perhaps CR4 needs a fresh face, rebranding or advertising on google.

I know - we need a CR4 Facebook page - then numbers would go through the roof (I'm joking).

But seriously, I've seen the forums on other social media sites (Linked In, Research-gate are a couple of example's that come to mind), are excellent sources of information. Targeted, specific information and challanges relevant to my specific knowledge specialisation.

I suggest the drop of in numbers is a result of tougher competition - not the quality of responses.

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04/03/2012 12:09 AM

Actually if you go back and have a look, many of Lyn's posts are direct and complete answers to all manner and type of questions asked on CR4.

Some of his posts are off topic (no big deal, this is a social website to some extent afterall) while others are quite blunt and too the point, so lets address this directly. If you have another look at these particular posts then you will also see that although some of them can be quite blunt (and borderline rude in some cases) most of the time there is a justifiable reason.

Yes, some of Lyn's posts could obviously have been better worded to more closely follow the CR4 posting rules but then again I find it quite helpful in some cases to have someone who can be quite blunt and to the point with a poster, especially with posts that should not be on CR4 because they violate the CR4 rules or are obviously repeat posts of the same old question that can be more easily found than CR4 itself.

Best you go and re-read lyn's posts, it might give you a better understanding as to why he has so many GA's. Alternatively try talking with him directly using the private message system as I doubt you will find much support from the long-term members of CR4 who (through CR4) have known Lyn for years.

Jack - Been here since 2006.

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04/03/2012 7:58 AM

I agree, we all take up causes............and lyn is ours.

We're having a benefit dinner for him next Saturday at the VFW, bring something.

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04/03/2012 7:10 PM

I can bring some sarcasm.

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04/03/2012 7:32 PM

Bring beer, or don't show up.

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04/03/2012 7:37 PM

New , or used?

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04/03/2012 8:06 PM

Now you've really gone and done it. You don't even have to respond anymore. The mere mention of your name drives OPs away.

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04/04/2012 7:40 AM

word has it, a national park is going to be named after lyn. But I only repeat what I hear.

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04/03/2012 10:32 PM

Sinner repent!

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04/03/2012 10:35 PM

Oh, I have...............................many times.

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04/04/2012 7:49 AM

is the sarcasm fresh?......we do have standards here

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04/03/2012 12:21 AM

Lyn under fire, but Lyn fires too.

All by all I consider his contributions helpful and his comments put up a firewall for us all. This forum would change into a boring one without his presence. And your comments prove he is a star.

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04/05/2012 10:29 PM

A star.

And you are part of it's Galaxy.

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04/03/2012 12:47 AM

You are indeed wrong and biased.

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04/03/2012 1:17 AM

I would have to say this is the optimum of wrong and biased.

So I would imagine we could go back in your posts to find where Lyn has hurt your feelings, IF it were worth the trouble to do so.

If you have troubles with him, why not send him a mail directly and air your feelings rather that trying to stir the pot with everyone else who has no problems what so ever with Lyn? Truth be told if you took out the students homework and the occasional idiot I would think 98% of the people here have a great deal of respect for Lyn, so you are pissing in the wind as they sometimes say. Meening its just going to come back on you if youre not careful.

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No worries, you can have your oppinion and everyone else should have theres as well.

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04/03/2012 11:17 AM

By the way sir it is theirs not theres.

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04/03/2012 1:18 AM

By the way sir, its Circumstances not Circunstances...

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04/03/2012 2:09 AM

your comment is just another reason posters get offended. i'm posting as 'anonymous" because of the wrath and humiliation the regulars seem to love to dish out. it always seems to be a "one upmanship"

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Not circus stances?

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04/05/2012 10:37 PM

By the way Sir.

Cant you say anything better than this?

... you're a Jerk.

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04/05/2012 10:54 PM

Love ya too sweetheart, (or not) if thats the worst Im called today then its all good.

Have a wonderful day replying to each of your comments, just goes to show you must have no life, probably no friends either, so sad (I wonder if the numbers say that is directly contributed to Lyn as well?).Ok I some of us need to get to work

Wonder when this thread will close????

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04/05/2012 11:00 PM

I had a look at the other topics you've started or posted in. I didnt see anything particularly offensive by lyn or anybody.

Maybe you were observing a dispute with another member?

Could you link to where it is that lyn got on your bad side?

A side note: The reply setup here sucks, especially if you have a netbook like I do with a narrow screen. Trying to scroll way back to the top to see what you're replying to is very tedious. So, unless you're replying to something within a few posts, it's a big help if you quote it in your post. Also tedious, but at least you're response will make sense to anybody who wont bother to scroll.

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04/05/2012 11:12 PM

According to you I am the Jerk (8)and part of the Galaxy where Lyn is a star(5)? Do you really need attention that badly? Try a circus.

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04/06/2012 4:57 AM

No, should be .......it's Circumstances.......(short for it is)

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04/06/2012 8:10 AM

Everybody likes to jump on spelling errors. It's so easy!

Takes a little more thinking to untangle a bad sentence.

'Circumstances' is the wrong word to begin with and 'this kind of' doesn't work with 'circumstances'.

Furthermore, Biggig is really complaining about individual members, rather than the forum in general, so the title is complete junk.

It should be Mommy! Lyn is bothering me! or Get off my case, man! or Wuzzup wi dat?

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04/06/2012 10:16 AM

'Circumstances' is the wrong word to begin with and 'this kind of' doesn't work with 'circumstances'.


I think the OP was actually thinking of the word "circumcision." However even that is not really the right word for what goes on in threads like this -- castration would be a better word. Personal attacks on long term, well-liked members are likely to result in loads of support for the long term member and lots of criticism of the newbie attacker. The newbie ends up getting virtually castrated.


In this case, this is what the newbie desires, suffering, as he apparently does, from a persecution complex. He sees himself as nailed to the cross.


Viewed from that perspective, everyone wins. The newbie feels persecuted. Lyn feels appreciated. And the rest of us feel virtuous, having come to Lyn's defense.

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04/03/2012 7:29 AM

You must be talking about the times that a thread like this pops up, or worse......................and lyn says something like, "Get A Life!!!!!!"

Do you suppose a lack of interest might have something to do with threads like these? The front page is loaded with them every morning, before admin comes in and takes out the trash.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/77076/PATENT

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/77075/RUNWAY

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04/03/2012 7:42 AM

I don't mind Lyn at all. He has a low tolerance for stupidity, for students trying to 'game' the CR4 folks with homework questions, for people asking questions that haven't done any work on their own, and so forth.

If you have a problem with him, deal with him directly. Send him a private message. I think it is disgusting that you are trying to stir up community hate to censor him.

Besides, I think your initial assumption is wrong. I haven't noticed any drop off in interest in CR4.

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04/05/2012 10:35 PM

Hi there.

You weren't around when things started going down hill.

CR4 had a lot participants and it was a place where one could share and gather interesting ideas and concepts.

Now became the "old about to die dinosaur club" and it's just sad to see ... that's all.

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04/07/2012 8:08 AM

Actually, I was. For years, going back to 2006, I was one of those 'guests', reading and commenting from my place of employment. I semi-retired in 2009 and decided to become a regular member in 2010.

One thing I agree with is that the challenge questions have gotten kind lame. The old 'Bob and Tom' questions (I think those were the names) were better than most of the challenges posted lately.

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04/07/2012 8:59 AM

The challenge questions do seem to have got lamer. At one time we had some very innovative questions to ponder and banter about. That's how I found myself on CR4 (oops, they'll stop doing them altogether now). Apart from the question itself, the friendly chat would often digress to other interesting stuff. I have a few possible questions in mind, but they would simply turn up on a search engine too easily.

I may be cynical, but I wonder how often people just re-phrase something they found on the web. The member list is now much longer, with the consequence that more people reply to a post. The knock on effect is that people short of time will read the first few posts, and maybe the last few. That results in a whole load of repetition and a GA system gone mad. Not reading the whole lot is something I've done on more than a few occasions (), though I try to have read all. It gets increasingly harder if you ponder a question then post, only to find somebody just posted the same. Even reading and coming back a day later can leave it a muddle.

'Bob and Alice' are the names usually used in cryptographic examples. A bit like "Hello world" (early programing stuff) it seems to have stuck. For some bizarre reason, CR4 uses 'Juan and <whatever>'. One of my favourites was about sectioning a pyramid. I don't have a link to hand, but it was posed by Phys. The bouncing balls question was also good.

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04/03/2012 7:43 AM

This topic can be discussed without pointing fingers. It's okay to discuss the attitude or tone of posts but it's not okay to attack other users. That's no better than what this discussion is about.

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04/03/2012 7:53 AM

Lyn is a fast intelligent poster. Many of his/her posts are accurate and concise, some are curt. I have no problem with Lyn's posts, often I have found myself agreeing with and backing up Lyn's posts. Very rarely I will correct or add to a post with information more precise from my area of expertise.

My problem with Lyn is he/she doesn't seem to respond in kind to GA votes. I have seen replies to my posts or but never accompanied with a GA even when my post does provide necessary information relevant to the topic.

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04/04/2012 10:49 AM

"My problem with Lyn is he/she doesn't seem to respond in kind to GA votes."

Corrrect. Regardless of what any misguided members/anons may think, I, nor any member of whom I am aware, has ever responded "in kind to GA votes."

ER, is it whom, or who here?

And Anon, I,m a he.

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04/04/2012 11:01 AM

Aw c'mon, I've been known to shamelessly solicit GAs and rub up against people for 'em.
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04/04/2012 11:06 AM

Yes, we know.

But then, you're just a cat.

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04/04/2012 8:07 PM

My apologies for the confusion, it was not my intent to say any post deserves a GA for indicating that another post is a GA.

Instead it is my observation that in some threads you have contributed to where your answer was deserving a GA but required further information you (and others) have not awarded the follow up post the same courtesy of identifying it as a GA.

It is my understanding that the GA voting system is intended to place links to answers near the top of the page so visitors to the sight can quickly find the best answer when they are searching for a similar solution. I think part of the problem is it has become like a badge of honor to most of us where we award GA to people we like even if the post does not in fact benefit a visitor to the sight researching a similar problem.

It could be these undeserving GA votes (the honor badge count) that distract visitors and discourage membership. On the other hand, when I visit other sites that use a similar system it helps me know who's post to trust more than others.

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04/04/2012 8:38 PM

A GA is like beauty or, pornography. I may not know how to describe it, but I dam well know it when I see it. Are your standards the same as mine?

Don't read anything into GA's cause it's just a game. It just means that the person has outlasted everyone else.

You said, "It could be these undeserving GA votes (the honor badge count) that distract visitors and discourage membership."

Oh, come on. Try not to psychoanalyze the members and their motives, whoever you are.

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04/04/2012 10:44 PM

This thread seems to psychoanalyze you, it is in my nature to analyze everything, people included.

I am ~Anon~ because I don't want this conversation to affect your decision to award me a GA in one direction or another (no disrespect intended).

My original post is just an observation that you do not seem to give out a GA very often. This could be an imprecise observation, but it is my opinion. I am open to revising my opinion, I do respect your input to this forum. I just feel it would be 'nice' to get a 'biscuit' from you when it is deserved.

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04/05/2012 7:27 AM

Unless there's a feature I'm unaware of, there's no way of telling who voted GA or OT. How would you know whether or how often Lyn or anyone else 'gives out' a GA? Or is this like the 'psychoanalysis'... 'analyzing everything', on pure speculation and conjecture!

I was tempted to give you a 'biscuit' now, to satisfy your craving, but as you pointed out "This could be an imprecise observation..." or rather, it is a conjecture with little or no basis in fact. Go ahead and post something that has a reasonable basis, on topic to this thread, and I shall indeed award you a GA vote (and maybe Lyn will too... but you may never know!).

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04/05/2012 10:32 AM

Exactly how did you arrive at, "an observation that you do not seem to give out a GA very often." How could you possibly know how many GA's I vote.

I don't announce every GA I vote. THAT would be pretentious, for sure.

I have little use for people, like you, who hide behind anonymity and expound on the actions/behavior of other members.

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04/04/2012 10:48 PM

Yea it seems like the entire thing has just been over thought 10 times over doesn't it?

I would like to think that someone can give a GA vote for what ever reason they feel is proper, no matter what that reason is.

That goes the same for a little sarcasm poke from time to time.

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04/05/2012 2:25 AM

The GA/OT rating is one of the bad ideas that make the CR forum less popular with me.

The regulars have become a clan and will routinely hit GA for their buddies opinion, however poorly considered and sometimes gang up & off-topic a post they disagree with to disappear it. This changes it from a debate into a street fight - Einstien looses because he didn't bring his posse.

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04/05/2012 3:54 AM

Can we have a few examples of this routine behaviour ? You will almost certainly see regulars bantering, but would you expect otherwise ?

GA's mean nothing, and the topic has been well and truly thrashed to pieces elsewhere.

I've seen people OT'd en-mass by some lone nut who's agenda has nothing to do with CR4 discussions.

Why not simply ignore GA's, read all the posts in a discussion, form an opinion, then either comment or ignore. Some people navigate by the GA's to save time - that would be like me asking a stranger which book in the library I might enjoy.

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04/05/2012 11:03 AM

"Can we have a few examples of this routine behaviour ? You will almost certainly see regulars bantering, but would you expect otherwise ?"

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/64803#newcomments

You will see in that topic that I always tried to give useful answers to questions, even if they were the result of not reading a single thing on the Nooalf website, yet not a single GA. And since there is only the slightest mention of the KoMIKS, everybodies posts are technically off topic. Notice that Moronicbumble starts off with an insult and gets 2 GAs.

As an example in support of the OP, the star of this topic enters with a post that would have immediately gotten him thrown out of a better forum. (He seems to have 'off topiced' it himself, perhaps expecting it to show up as hidden.)

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/72724#comment781953

If I were to become a published professor of psychology, that topic would be the textbook example of my cement head thesis. It's almost comical how well the response to my posts illustrate the point of the topic and cement headedness in general!

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04/05/2012 11:08 AM

There is nothing useful about speaking gibberish and acting like a fool.

If you were to become a published professor of psychology, we'd have to watch out for flying cows.

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04/05/2012 9:28 PM

GA!!! So now I await the critics response for this vote

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04/06/2012 8:02 AM

Everyone has a trait where they excel at........they all can't be intellects.

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04/05/2012 12:21 PM

I see no evidence of a 'clan', much less of group action.

Bottom line is, nobody agreed with you.

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04/05/2012 3:22 PM

Oh! Big Gig the original poster! I'm a lottle slow with names. Yes, Lyn, he does seem like a better match for you.

Kris wrote: "Bottom line is, nobody agreed with you."

Kind of my point.

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04/05/2012 9:26 PM

Why not look for a Psychology forum for you and biginthesky, you two could be perfect together? Oooops there I go writing what I think again.....

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04/05/2012 11:13 AM

I will add this to the debate. I have been awarded more GA for sarcastic , or intentionally funny replies than for serious honest answers to someone's problem.

IMHO, if you are a regular here, you will see this. If you are a newcommer, or just an occasional visitor, and you choose to just look at the good answers, you will find the solution, and/or have a few laughs. And if you are the OP that has a problem, you will likely find your solutions merged with the jokes that have the GA indicator.

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04/05/2012 10:26 AM

You've made outrageous comments in the past, but this is the most uninformed drivel you've produced to date.

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04/05/2012 10:29 AM

you read way too much into it.

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04/03/2012 7:53 AM

In response to another of your posts fits here also.

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04/03/2012 7:59 AM

It is very unscientific to take two events and say they are related. Even if the reasons for your dislike of Lyn are real, it is one hell of a stretch to equate that to the drop off in threads, it makes him a one man wrecking crew. Many people left because "Guests" were making personal attacks and this started a downward slope, as quality members left, the overall quality went down, the changes to "Anonymous" haven't turned things around. Take a look at some of the older challenges in the challenge blog,

Don't make Lyn out to be so much more powerful than he is.

I think that many didn't like the addition of the car stuff, thought it a drop in class.

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04/03/2012 7:30 PM

And another thing about Lyn. He is the cause of global warming. And high gas prices.

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04/04/2012 7:42 AM

Yes, we do owe lyn alot............. bob c do you have change for a dime?

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04/04/2012 8:55 AM

Not now, I'm busy constructing a statue so that we can worship Lyn.

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04/04/2012 10:56 AM

hail lyn

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04/03/2012 8:56 AM

You do appear to be both wrong and biased.

You also do not seem to understand the idea behind this forum.

I agree with some of the others, blunt is sometimes the best answer.

Would you want to give someone technical advice who is trying to connect 440 VAC to a resistor, or simply tell them to stop ?

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04/03/2012 9:46 AM

I don't quite understand your rambling diatribe: are you upset that lyn talks so much?

"...one of the CR4 founding members (bear? ...)..." I believe you are speaking of babybear. I would say that BB has a gentle, nurturing manner about him... Are you comparing CR4 members lyn and babybear? In this comparison, lyn is the more abrupt commenter? What a shocker!

You said "Are we going to let 1 member ruin the whole idea and the beautiful working concept of what we do here?" This comment seems self-serving to me. What, exactly, do we do here?

"It's not about "Lyn" personally, it's about the attitude." The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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04/03/2012 10:01 AM

I'm just miffed because this isn't about me.
Everyone knows everything is about CATS .
Everything tends to be cyclical, we get a lot of repeated posts by people unwilling to use google and than don't even respond to the answers provided.
It takes effort to ask interesting lucid questions, post interesting lucid answers and generally contribute.
Maybe there will be some interesting electronic or mechanical posts tomorrow? At the moment it all seems to be Qs about power distribution.

My experience is that the quality of reponse is generally proportional to the quality of the question.
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04/03/2012 1:45 PM

Ask me , it takes an incredible amount of effort to even give dumb answers, but it's fun, & the element of witty discussion MAY not fall away or CR4 will become boring. I have come to appreciate the various unique individual personalities I have encountered here. Lyn belongs here together with the rest of us. Dude who started this post, you will hopefully learn to appreciate him as he is part of CR4 as are you. Have a beer or whatever it is that does it for you and relax. Regards, Leon

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04/03/2012 10:41 AM

You should have been here (2) years ago, when the guests ruled.

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04/03/2012 10:58 AM

"Most of them (I would say 95%) are just hate filled, no imagination whatsoever, off topic, uncalled for, biased comments"

I find Lyn's responses ussualy informative, sometimes hysterical, always imaginative, sometimes dripping with sarcasm, and sometimes off-topic. That pretty much covers most of our MO's here.

These are many of the qualities of the many members here that make up our motley crew that we are.

"Do we have to put up with this kind of circumstances?" of course "we" don't. If "we" are unhappy participating in the CR4 community.......then go away, it is your choice.

EDIT - At first read, I could not understand where you were coming from. After going back and reading your past posts, now I see the "bigger" picture. You are obviously working your own agenda.

Enough time of mine wasted - bye-bye

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04/03/2012 11:51 AM

LOL. You're right. He seems to have issues with Lyn going back for some time, even before Lyn referred to him as 'bigheadintheass'. Ha.

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04/03/2012 12:02 PM

Bwaaahahahahahah - I missed that one, thanks. That was my first good laugh of the day!!!!

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04/03/2012 11:50 AM

Lyn's comments are fine with me.

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04/03/2012 12:09 PM

I saw the pictures and I sure am glad that Lyn posts better than he drives.

I have noticed that Andy Germany seems to be the only dog person out there while several people are on the side of fur-ball spitting cats. Now that is a problem that I wish the Moderators would address.

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04/03/2012 1:33 PM

Your english has wented too?!

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04/03/2012 3:21 PM

Add me to this long list of members who greatly appreciate Lyn's comments, character, terrific knowledge and experience, wit, alacrity, and generous contribution to this forum.

One thing about this forum and its 'beautiful working concept' is that there are many very knowledgeable contributors. A wrong answer is not going to remain unchallenged, and anyone who rashly posts something in error will be humbled like the rest, and learn something in the process. That's what we agree to when we answer any question, and no one is exempt from that - not Lyn, you, me, or anyone else. We are here because we like it that way.

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04/03/2012 4:44 PM

Hey there big something or other in the sky...

Can you please remove the fact you live in Toronto, Canada from your profile? You are embarrassing a great nation filled with pretty wonderful folk.

I took a quick look at your posting history, you seem to crave confrontation and strife. Please consider looking else where for it as you, clearly, will never be happy with the give and take that goes on here.

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The great Canadian patriot!

... an Harley for avatar.

ass kisser, brown nose.

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04/07/2012 10:15 AM

Ya ok...

So... your avatar of you standing there with boxing gloves ready to take on all comers is some how more appropriate of a choice for an avatar then my picture of my bike?

How does enjoying the freedom that two wheels affords a rider have anything to do with patriotism?

So... in your version of reality, is the definition of a "ass kisser, brown nose" anyone who does not agree with and share your viewpoints and positions.

Sad...

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04/07/2012 2:16 PM

Does our neighbor to the north even make motorcycles? Maybe an assemble plant.

But if we really want to ANALyze this, where is the COO of those boxing gloves?

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04/03/2012 6:04 PM

I just realized.................this isn't about lyn at all. Big gig is simply showing off his mathematical prowess. We've been warned.

You guys that have been solving the challenge questions had better sharpen your pencils.

The numbers follow.

To this point "Lyn" has 14746 posts.

He has been a member for 42 Months ... approximately 1260 days.14746/1260 = 11.7

11.7 comments a day.

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Lyn's Good People and a breath of fresh air compared to user_deleted_13. Thank Bog the bastard left when he did!

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04/03/2012 8:51 PM

I don't think impolite comments are driving people away, but a low level of quality in the posts will.

I don't think lyn is the worst offender either, but I dont read everything here.

Bad manners and insults don't bug me. Take a look at the http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/73321#newcomments topic!

Some other forums I'm in would have banned Tornado and a few others waaaaayy before that got to 300+ posts!

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04/03/2012 11:48 PM

So... Judging from the thread its safe to say this is unfounded BS against Lyn, anyway Lyn might need some days for the head to shrink back to the normal size after all the support . Its good to see that Lyn wasn't left to be bashed by some minority unfounded opinion!

As for me, time to unsubscribe as its filling my in box very fast ha ha.

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04/04/2012 9:51 AM

Threads like this don't help.
I mean, it's just gagging for some sarcasm.

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04/04/2012 9:53 AM

Seems to be the better idea to ban biginthesky all together, I doubt there would be any objections from persons in this post.

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04/04/2012 10:57 AM

can we still lynch lyn. I have time next thursday.

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04/04/2012 11:04 AM

Thurs is bad for me, can you post the video?

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04/04/2012 11:05 AM

is utube ok, i'll post a link

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04/05/2012 10:12 PM

Whatever ...

It would be an honour!

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04/05/2012 3:48 AM

Quit the overthink and just give the cat a GA
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04/05/2012 9:30 AM

I have been on both sides of the fence with lyn. Honest point/counterpoint discussions have been productive AND I respect his opinions even if I do not agree with them. The OP should try this himself.

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04/05/2012 10:05 AM

Personally, I like Lyn's comments.

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04/05/2012 10:19 AM

too late, I already made up the invitations to lyns lynching next week.

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04/05/2012 10:49 AM

Any one else noticed the complete absence of the original poster?
He's prob Trolling about somewhere else.
Time for this cat to unsubscribe.
Del <swishes cape and leaves>

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