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How to Classify Pumps?

10/27/2013 6:09 PM

how can I classify pumps ?

is it correct to classify it as : positive displacement pumps and roto-dynamic pumps

or it should be as : fixed displacement pumps and variable displacement pumps?

also are the positive displacement pumps always a fixed displacement pumps?

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10/27/2013 7:42 PM

I know that !

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10/27/2013 9:12 PM

Your terse, disrespectful reply indicates that you know nothing, about pumps or manners.

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10/29/2013 5:23 AM

I don't think his reply was at all disrespectful. SolarEagle's reply, while it had some basic points regarding the two classes of pumps, contributed little or nothing towards answering his question.

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10/29/2013 5:30 AM

And, what has your reply contributed?

At this point we can only assume that you know nothing about pumps, either.

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10/27/2013 10:33 PM

For centrifugal end suction pumps,how many types of impellers(name,picture) are available & out of which is the most efficient.

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10/27/2013 10:54 PM

You can't Google, either?

Types of pump impellers - YouTube

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10/27/2013 11:10 PM

Thanks.Have they identified the most efficient one?.

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10/27/2013 11:23 PM

Have you looked at the video?

Have you a reason for asking?

Do you have an opinion about the video?

Do you have an opinion about what type of impeller might be most efficient?

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10/28/2013 7:39 AM

Yes. Video is good but unable to read text(too small) in pump curves.

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10/29/2013 6:19 AM

Please give meaning to symbols(c,v,w etc-d1,d2 ok).

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10/28/2013 5:06 AM

sorry I didn't mean to be harsh,I just hoped if you read what I posted

this will be my last post in the forums due to the lack of respect and morons who try to judge people without even trying to help

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10/30/2013 9:57 AM

Please do not be easily offended by terse remarks of others, they are too used to being asked to do students' homework for them. I will be happy to attempt to answer your question as well as I can.

Roto-dynamic: all of these are based on centrifugal principle, namely acceleration of water velocity being translated into pressure and flow. These pumps will generally heat the water if "deadheaded", i.e. no flow condition, due to mechanical work on the water by the impeller being converted to heat when water is static. These come in all designs, shapes, and sizes, from extremely large centrifugal pumps with flow rates near 500,000 gpm (or more), down to reasonably low volume ones with very high pressure output (boiler feedpumps), down to special purpose low volume pumps with magnetic coupling sealless design.

Positive displacement: Can be anything from a basic mono-piston pump, to multi-cylinder type moderate flow rate at enormous pressure. Can be a progressive cavity pump also, but these sort of are a hybrid between centrifugal and positive displacement. Can be a rotary vane pump. Can be a peristaltic tubing pump. Can be a flexible impeller pump. Can be a gear pump. Can be a hydraulic piston/diaphragm pump where the other side of the diaphragm is a water solution or other. Can be a solenoid-driven, motor and cam driven, or water driven diaphragm pump for dosing chemicals, etc. Can be a syringe pump (slow operating class of piston pump) used in an autotitrator, or ion chromatography, or liquid chromatography, or the Texas death chamber for murderers.

So, as you and I can see, there are almost an infinite variety to these classes of pumps, and the suitability for a given application is almost certainly as varied.

Please do not let the sun set on your anger, and reconsider your semi-decision to not post in the future, as we all welcome you and your queries. If blessings pour upon you, and it seems as fire, then reconsider, reflect, and ask yourself if there is not a better way. After all, blessings are not meant as a curse.

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10/27/2013 9:00 PM

Classification is a very broad word and you can classify to what ever end you need it.

I classify pumps from can "carry" to "cannot carry by hand any more" to " nobody can carry by hand" to "big pump" "very big pump" and "does not exists but everybody wants its"

Check this out to have some more definitions.

For the last question I would rather say: a fixed displacment pump is always a positive displacement pump.

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10/27/2013 9:06 PM

There are 10 kinds of pumps. Those that work, and those that don't.

(That's the binary law of pump classification.)

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10/28/2013 12:42 AM

1. General circulation
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10/28/2013 3:14 AM

Of the choices given, the first is best. However, better still is to state the actual pump type in question; e.g., centrifugal, regenerative turbine, gear, piston, vane, progressive cavity, diaphragm, peristaltic, etc.

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10/28/2013 4:05 AM

Although you are VERY impolite I shall give you a general way to do it:

First you use the basic parameters of a pump i.e. Flow and Pressure.

Second the physical principle : volumetric or centrifugal

Third you use the design : fixed, variable,piston, screw a.s.o.

In fact the principle and design are related to the range Q&P. There are as well more scientific basic criteria but due to your lack of knowledge mentioning them will fly too high for you.

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10/28/2013 10:00 AM

Green ones and red ones?

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10/29/2013 11:14 PM

You forgot the blue ones. They are much better than green and red together.

I never seen an orange one. And do they not do the reverse flow negative suction pumps with modulator spray top anymore that can vary in size dependend on how long you look at them?

Bugger there was just a brown pump jumping across the lawn. . .

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10/28/2013 11:50 PM

Every pump has the potential to be variable.. you need to be exact in what you need to know!

As for classification..... it's a pump, only variable is, how it pumps! What would be more interesting would be for you to explain your understanding of the classifications and how the types you list, work!

Then, maybe we can fill in the holes in your education.. or perhaps point you in the right direction

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10/29/2013 1:57 AM

Please elaborate on varieties of centrifugal & special effects types of pumps.

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10/29/2013 2:05 AM

a centrifugal pump is just that.. a centrifugal pump! there are no varieties or different flavours.

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10/29/2013 2:12 AM

There are various impeller types (open, closed) and features (e.g., cutter teeth).

Other roto-dynamics include regenerative turbine, for instance.

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10/29/2013 4:58 AM

Dear Mr.islam.aboauf,

Pl. open the link below and you will have good amount of Information and I am sure - you will be satisfied with the details available in the link.

http://in.grundfos.com/content/dam/Global%20Site/Industries%20&%20solutions/Industry/pdf/Pump_handbook.pdf

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10/29/2013 8:22 AM

GlobalSpec classifies pumps both by technology and application:

http://www.globalspec.com/productfinder/flow_transfer_control/pumps

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10/29/2013 5:46 PM

Islam.Aboauf, I will try to answer your questions in the same order that you asked them.

1. is it correct to classify it as : positive displacement pumps and roto-dynamic pumps

Yes, these are two basic pump classifications.

Positive displacement pump traps fixed volume of fluid from suction inlet and moves it to discharge outlet. Then the cycle repeats. Pump capacity stays nearly constant as discharge pressure changes. Example: reciprocating piston pump.

Rotodynamic pump continuously imparts kinetic energy to fluid by means of rotating impeller or propeller. This energy will cause the fluid to flow. Pump capacity decreases as discharge pressure increases and may even go to zero. Example: centrifugal pump.

2. or it should be as : fixed displacement pumps and variable displacement pumps?

No. A positive displacement pump may have fixed or variable displacement. Variable displacement pump changes the volume of fluid that is trapped and discharged. It is usually more complex than a fixed displacement pump. Example: piston pump with variable stroke length.

3. also are the positive displacement pumps always a fixed displacement pumps?

From the answer to question #2, a positive displacement pump may have fixed or variable displacement. So this answer is also "No."

Good luck and all the best!

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10/29/2013 6:03 PM

Also, #3 is sometimes referred to as dosing, or metering, pumps.

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