Previous in Forum: 3D Metal Die Printing   Next in Forum: How to Dismantle Cam Follower Lever Assembly
Close
Close
Close
19 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Associate

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 26

Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/24/2014 1:22 AM

Please direct me to where I can get a resistance heating element that can withstand 3000 degree centigrade and above with a device that can measure that temperature

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Commissariat de Police, Nouvions, occupied France, 1942.
Posts: 2599
Good Answers: 77
#1

Re: Electric resistance single phase heating element

09/24/2014 2:09 AM

Automotive spark plug and a laser thermometer.

__________________
Good moaning!
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Not a New Member Hobbies - Musician - New Member Hobbies - Fishing - New Member

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Going under cover.
Posts: 9684
Good Answers: 468
#2

Re: Electric resistance single phase heating element

09/24/2014 2:53 AM

"... and above" ? 5000 is above, so is 10000

__________________
"Love justice, you who rule the world" - Dante Alighieri
Register to Reply
2
Guru
Technical Fields - Technical Writing - New Member Engineering Fields - Piping Design Engineering - New Member

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Richland, WA, USA
Posts: 21017
Good Answers: 795
#3

Re: Electric resistance single phase heating element

09/24/2014 4:00 AM

An incandescent light bulb and a colorimeter.

__________________
In vino veritas; in cervisia carmen; in aqua E. coli.
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42355
Good Answers: 1693
#4

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/24/2014 9:58 AM

"resistance heating element that can withstand 3000 degree centigrade"

Is that while the resistance heating element is energized? Or, no?

Register to Reply
Guru
New Zealand - Member - Kiwi Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 8777
Good Answers: 376
#5

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/24/2014 3:42 PM

3000 and above! What is the application exactly?

__________________
jack of all trades
Register to Reply
Power-User
Hobbies - CNC - New Member

Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 127
Good Answers: 8
#6

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/24/2014 10:55 PM

You might try induction heating as an option. I believe an alumina crucible will stand that temp.

Register to Reply
Member

Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Pune, india
Posts: 5
#7

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 1:09 AM

Visit testbourse.com site for heater element. Use R S thermocouple to read tempt. S D Bakare

__________________
Suresh
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Placerville, CA (38° 45N, 120° 47'W)
Posts: 6215
Good Answers: 248
#8
In reply to #7

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 1:28 AM

testbourse.com leads nowhere.

__________________
Teaching is a great experience, but there is no better teacher than experience.
Register to Reply
Associate

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 47
Good Answers: 3
#10
In reply to #8

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 3:06 AM

I believe he meant testbourne.com. Regardless, 3000 has to be a mistake. Testbourne has tungsten heating elements but they're for vacuum vaporizing metals for thin film deposition. Highest temp I saw was 1800, and pretty sure that's for at least a partial vacuum. But thanks for almost link SK. . Pretty cool stuff there. Electron beam heated crucibles and what not.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Placerville, CA (38° 45N, 120° 47'W)
Posts: 6215
Good Answers: 248
#9

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 1:33 AM

Do you REALLY mean 3000°C? The only metals in my (probably less than comprehensive) list, that melt above 3000°C are Tungsten and Osmium.

__________________
Teaching is a great experience, but there is no better teacher than experience.
Register to Reply
Guru
Canada - Member - New Member

Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Canada but south of 49
Posts: 895
Good Answers: 20
#14
In reply to #9

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 9:10 AM

And, what about the ancillary stuff like mounting brackets, wiring, etc.?? A little warm for those particular metals.

__________________
Never stop learning
Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Safety - ESD - New Member Hobbies - Fishing - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Frankfurt am Main, Germany. 50.390866N, 8.884827E
Posts: 17996
Good Answers: 200
#11

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 3:24 AM

I would guess that induction might be the only feasible way to go with electricity....but really I have no other ideas....

__________________
"What others say about you reveals more about them, than it does you." Anon.
Register to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: May 2008
Location: CHENNAI, TAMIL NADU, INDIA.
Posts: 1851
Good Answers: 65
#12

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 4:38 AM

Dear Mr.ropo,

I am of the view that no metal combination can with stand 3000 Deg.C, and work, and measuring also will have problem.

DHAYANANDHAN.S

Register to Reply Score 1 for Off Topic
Guru
Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Safety - ESD - New Member Hobbies - Fishing - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Near Frankfurt am Main, Germany. 50.390866N, 8.884827E
Posts: 17996
Good Answers: 200
#13
In reply to #12

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 4:55 AM

Quartz halogen bulbs can stand up to a tick more than 3,422 °C, and as the temperature and the colour are synonymous, a comparison of the colours in special optics between the part to measure and the bulb filament colour will give the approximate temperature.

It has been done like that for many years....for iron and steel smelting for example I believe.

What the maximum possible actually is, I have no idea.

__________________
"What others say about you reveals more about them, than it does you." Anon.
Register to Reply
Guru
Safety - Hazmat - New Member United States - US - Statue of Liberty - New Member Engineering Fields - Chemical Engineering - Old Hand

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Posts: 14331
Good Answers: 162
#15

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 1:00 PM

Molybdenum Disilicide heating elements are the hottest physically solid heaters money can buy, and are rated up to 1800 °C, or 3272 °F. I don't think you can do that with any form of carbon, and you can only get near this with Silicon Carbide, as is sometimes used in some electric furnaces. Pure carbon electrodes (not in resistor mode) are used in heating mixtures of carbon and silica for silicon production in China, and also used for heating MgO/Si mixtures for the production of magnesium.

You can't get to 3000 °C with any known solid, but you might get there with some lasers, or a plasma-air furnace.

__________________
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just build a better one.
Register to Reply
Guru
New Zealand - Member - Kiwi Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 8777
Good Answers: 376
#16

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/25/2014 3:30 PM

As others have indicated above please provide more information on your application.

__________________
jack of all trades
Register to Reply
Commentator

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 61
Good Answers: 4
#17

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

09/26/2014 10:16 AM

The only methods I have experience with at these temperatures are induction heating using a fine grain graphite suscepter in an oxygen free environment or a silicon smelting furnace with operates usually between 2600 C and 3000 C.

An optical pyrometer is about the only way I know to measure 3000 c in a production environment.

Register to Reply
Associate

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 26
#18
In reply to #17

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

10/28/2015 1:14 PM

thanks

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Placerville, CA (38° 45N, 120° 47'W)
Posts: 6215
Good Answers: 248
#19
In reply to #18

Re: Electric Resistance Single Phase Heating Element

10/29/2015 7:17 PM

Better late than never! Did you solve your problem? If so, How?

__________________
Teaching is a great experience, but there is no better teacher than experience.
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 19 comments

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

Andy Germany (2); Crabtree (1); davlamb (1); dhayanandhan (1); dkwarner (3); drbobwoolery (1); Iceberg86300 (1); jack of all trades (2); James Stewart (1); JohnDG (1); Kevin LaPaire (1); lyn (1); ropo (1); Suresh Bakare (1); Tornado (1)

Previous in Forum: 3D Metal Die Printing   Next in Forum: How to Dismantle Cam Follower Lever Assembly

Advertisement