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Is the Hydrogen Economy "Dead in the Water"?

Posted November 17, 2011 9:02 AM by cheme_wordsmithy

Is the Hydrogen Economy "Dead in the Water"?

The hydrogen economy has been an interesting prospect for scientists for over three decades. Particularly around the beginning of this century, there was a lot of excitement generated for hydrogen, mostly as a transportation fuel. But although progress has continued since its inception, most of the hype and excitement has turned to batteries, biofuels, and electric cars. What does this mean for the future of hydrogen?

Hydrogen as an Energy Carrier

Hydrogen is not a primary energy source. Since it is not stored in an accessible form like fossil fuels, energy must be used to create it (like a battery). This makes it an energy carrier or currency. Much like money is a universal form for exchanging goods and services, hydrogen is a (potential) universal form for energy exchange (hence the term 'hydrogen economy').

Current primary energy forms (fossil fuels and various sources of electricity) can be converted to hydrogen through electrolysis of water or fossil fuel reformation. Electrolysis uses electricity to split water molecules (H2O) into oxygen gas (O2) and hydrogen gas (H2). Fossil fuel reformation uses hydrocarbons, typically natural gas or syngas containing primarily methane (CH4), and steam to form carbon dioxide (CO2) and hydrogen gas via a two-step reaction. The fuel cell can then utilize hydrogen gas with oxygen to create electricity, with water vapor as the only waste product.

Fuel Cell Operation. Image Credit: Scotland's Renewable Energy Blog

Though the hydrogen economy could involve many industries, the focus has been in transportation.

What's Right with Hydrogen

Hydrogen offers a number of advantages over other energy alternatives, particularly for use in vehicles.

Most prominent is its versatility. Hydrogen can be generated from all primary energy sources, making it theoretically more available than biofuels which are limited by the abundance of raw materials. The process for hydrogen is also more continuous than batteries which require substitution and replacement, and makes the utilization of intermittent power sources (wind and solar) more convenient.

On the flip side, hydrogen carries the convenience of biofuels and gasoline as a fuel. Travelling long distances remains feasible with refueling similar to today's gas station, as compared to the hours needed for recharging a battery.

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Hydrogen promoters also label it a "clean" fuel since it produces no greenhouse gases in combustion or fuel cell conversion. And who wouldn't want to drive a vehicle that emits water vapor out the exhaust?

What's Wrong with Hydrogen

Unfortunately, hydrogen is not the bowl of cherries it seems. It has a number of pitfalls (OK, no more puns I promise).

Though it may be versatile, it's not inherently practical. Hydrogen is odorless, colorless, and tasteless, making the detection of leaks difficult. This, along with the fact that hydrogen is extremely volatile, is a major safety concern. Storing hydrogen, due to its low energy density and small size, is also extremely difficult. An acceptable storage system must be simultaneously lightweight, compact, inexpensive, and safe; a tall hurdle to overcome.

Hydrogen is also relatively inefficient. Incorporating a fuel cell into current vehicle manufacturing processes noticeably decreases its energy efficiency. It is also incredibly expensive to build due to its complexity. Fuel cell vehicles don't gain much for being lightweight (no engine) either, after considering losses in the production cycle, storage losses, and various other minor losses in the fuel cell system.

Since hydrogen is an energy carrier, it also cannot in reality be considered clean. Though the vehicle has no emissions, the hydrogen process is no more green than the means used to create it (as depicted in the adjacent cartoon). Even if produced completely by renewable power sources, the grid displacement would ensure similar levels of carbon emission.

A Dead End?

As with many other new technologies, a barrier to development is the chicken and egg conundrum, in which adequate infrastructure (refueling stations) and products (cars) are both dependent on the other for successful business. And while Germany has announced it will build 1,000 hydrogen fueling stations by 2020, the U.S. drive has gone noticeably cold towards hydrogen. Adventurous entrepreneurs, such as Thomas D. Sullivan of Proton OnSite, are taking steps to solve this problem by building clusters of refueling stations ahead of the game in hopes that the market for fuel cell vehicles will grow in response.

But are these efforts in vain? Will hydrogen technology ever pan out? That really depends on who you talk to. Some believe hydrogen will never work, while others think it is the only true long term replacement for gasoline powered cars. Regardless of opinion, most agree that hydrogen powered vehicles are still decades away from making even a small impact on the transportation market. What do you think?

Resources

C&EN - Still Chasing the Hydrogen Economy

The Guardian - Environment Blog

World Energy Council - Fuel Cells

Materials Research Society - Waiting for the Hydrogen Economy

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11/17/2011 11:35 AM

The "business as usual" pundit might say "yes".

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11/17/2011 2:57 PM

Dead in the water? I was not aware it had ever gotten off dry land let alone made an effort to try and swim.

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11/17/2011 10:26 PM

To get the same mileage as one tanker of gasoline we would need 24 tanker trucks of hydrogen. The compelling math says there is no hydrogen economy for cars even without looking at the sourcing of the hydrogen. Milo

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11/17/2011 11:45 PM

For dirigibles neither, since 1937. (Or should that have been spelled "dirgible"?)

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11/18/2011 12:13 AM

I think "stillborn" is the correct term.

Several others have referred to the inherent inefficiencies of using hydrogen as an energy storage or currency. It can have niche applications, but the difficulties in separating it from other substances, storing it, transporting it, containing it and harnessing it for either IC engines or fuel cells just makes it too difficult to deal with for general use.

I am not saying that some future technology will not make it viable, but with what is clearly visible on the horizon now, the hydrogen economy is worse off than that of Greece.

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11/18/2011 12:21 AM

When the larger and larger accelerators were built for particle physics starting in the 1950s till now, US went for the technically more difficult Helium cooling. The Soviets went for the cheaper Hydrogen cooling. Built large accelerator in Dubna. Could not make it work right for any length of time.

The scientists were first rank.

The engineers were first class.

The only thing did not cooperate was the Hydrogen itself.

So let me see, and count slowly on my fingers. Top shelf, no expense spared people failed at it, but YOU can do it, and a neighbourly shadetree mechanic can fix it. And you would let your wife and children sit literally on the top of a hydrogen bomb. I expect women at least to have more common sense. Yeah, right.

Economy, what Economy?!?

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11/18/2011 12:36 AM

1 Kg of hydrogen is close to 1 gallon of gasoline. If Hydrogen generation cost is brought down below $5/Kg, it has a great future.

Electrolysis is quite costly as the input power cost is high. I read about a Zinc Sulfate route by chemically generating the same. Has it gone to science fiction?

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11/18/2011 1:03 AM

Not by a long shot. Please, do not try to be obtuse.

1 kg Hydrogen by volume=??

1kg Hydrogen by pressure=??

The last time I looked, Hydrogen was a very dilute, high pressure gas. Or a cryogenic,and dilute one. I do not expect to produce or maintain one in my garage. But feel free to try it, and blow up your home from the leakage.

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11/18/2011 1:36 AM

Heat of combustion:
Hydrogen ~61,000 Btu/lb
Gasoline ~20,400 Btu/lb

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11/18/2011 8:06 AM

1Kg = 11.13 NM3 (o'C and 1 atmosphere)

1Kg = 141.9 MJ ( HIGH HEAT VALUE)

= 39.4 KwH. AT LHV it is 33.3 KwH

! gallon of Gasoline = 121.3MJ close to 1 Kg of Hydrogen.

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11/18/2011 8:22 AM

Energy density comparison, LHV (by volume):

Gasoline (liquid) - 836,000 Btu/ft3

Hydrogen (gas at ~STP) - 270 Btu/ft3 [0.03% of gasoline]

Hydrogen (gas at 3,000psi and 60degF) - 48,900 Btu/ft3 [5.85% of gasoline]

Hydrogen (gas at 10,000psi and 60degF) - 121,000 Btu/ft3 [14.5% of gasoline]

Hydrogen (liquid) - 227,850 Btu/ft3 [27.3% of gasoline]

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11/18/2011 8:26 AM

Shouldn't that be "dead in the HHO"?

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11/18/2011 8:50 AM

Hydrogen economy is not dead. Technology is evolving like every new thing when we brought in market. Hydrogen economy is one which will democratize power business. Current power business is monopolized by transmission line and centralized power generation system.

Hydrogen economy is making this independent of transmission line and you set up at need point. It has taken hold in forklift which works in warehouse. It has penetrated in stable source in hospital and in communication business.

We currently carry wire for each country we travel to charge our ipad, cell phone and computer. By end of 2012 we will be unwired and will carry power generation system in our pocket and will be using our cell and computer 7/24 thanks to hydrogen economy.

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11/18/2011 9:17 AM

tend to look to optimism in the field as well..Nissan research highlighted in a CR4 newsbit a week or two ago indicated advancement of their fuel cell technology is becoming profound and almost mass produceable...with the distance traveled between refilling exceeding over 500 km ...and the unit is actually quite small..

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11/18/2011 9:30 AM

I beg to differ. There are no factors which give hydrogen an advantage in cost or availability compared to already in place infrastructure. Hydrogen as a niche for fuel cell power for interruptible replacement is practical but when we revisit this topic next year, neither you nor I will be running on Hydrogen.

An optimistic vision, but unsupported by facts.

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11/18/2011 3:05 PM

I beg to differ.

By 2015 you and I will be driving hybrid car. Hybrid car will have fuel reformer which will convert typical organic to hydrogen and CO, CO2. Hydrogen and air then will react in solid oxide fuel cell to convert it in power and water which will come out of our tail pipe as steam.

This is niche example but will grow as we grew dot com after dot burst. New things takes time and this will also do. If we go back to locomotive and car they also took time to be common and this will also happen to hydrogen economy

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11/18/2011 3:29 PM

Hybrid car or hydrogen car?

I wrote my first business intelligence report on Hybrid cars for my employer in 2003. Hybrids are old news. this thread was about hydrogen.

The conversation is Hydrogen, and the original date was 2012. Now you want 2105, I'm still skeptical.

Please look at the energy density and my comment about fuel volumes needed to think about this as a problem needing to be solved in the time frames that you suggest.

Neither the Car nor the Locomotive "were widely in use" in just a one year or three year period.

Solid oxide fuel cells commercialized in autos in the next three years? I remain unconvinced. Please share your evidence.

Thanks for the discussion.

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11/18/2011 5:06 PM

When I used hybrid I used it loosely what I mean is car with solid oxide fuel cell which is worked by Mercedes to GM and demo model is on road for testing. Solid oxide fuel cell based car still I say hybrid since we will be running for some time solid oxide fuel cell mixed with normal fuel or electricity (plug power) and is the reason using word that loosely

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11/18/2011 3:29 PM

Solid oxide fuel cells operate between 500 and 1,000 deg. C - absolutely no good for cars! I don't think it's necessary to explain why. The advantage of H2 as fuel for a fuel cell is that it works at ambient temperatures. Solid oxide fuel cells will oxidize hydrocarbons and alcohols electrochemically with no catalyst, which is fine, but are only suitable for "permanently running" applications, such as ships, locomotives, power stations etc.

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11/18/2011 4:13 PM

Masywood-I'm confused about your concept. How is reliance on fossil fuels part of the "hydrogen economy"?

In 4 years? That's a short time to develop a steam reformer efficient enough for a car (along with a reasonable cost). Efficiency goes up with scale, so these little reformers are pretty inefficient.

At first glance, it looks like your "hybrid" concept might be as efficient as an internal combustion engine, will have about the same CO2 emissions, at a much higher price.

What a concept. Get up in the morning, go out to your car, and fire up the industrial heater to get everything going. Come back after breakfast and make sure temps. are above 1000C and you've got steam, and you're ready to go! Perhaps a bit sarcastic, but isn't this where we are today with this technology?

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11/18/2011 5:14 PM

"By 2015 you and I will be driving hybrid car."

I seriously have doubts on that. To be honest I think that the vast majority of us in four years will still be driving the vehicles we are driving now except for the ones that had to be replaced due accidents, damage, or just being too worn out to be worth fixing.

I know that I will hopefully still be driving my 1999 F250, my 1997 F super duty, and perhaps my old 1987 Mazda B2600 propane burner so the only way I will be driving a new hybrid by then is if someone gives it to me for free and I don't see that happening being I would sell it as soon as I could and get a good reliable vehicle, or three or four or a good part of a new house, with the money.

40 years from now, well maybe but not 4.

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11/18/2011 10:34 AM

All I could do was shake my head at the interest in the "hydrogen economy". Every article I read was gushing about the possibilities: energy independence, clean fuel etc.

Oh the articles would point out the potential problems. Building infrastructure was seen to be the biggest one. Also H2 is not energy dense, permeates through containers etc. The articles did not gloss over these difficulties, but portrayed them as serious engineering problems.

These are all insignificant problems compared to the main one:

95% of hydrogen is produced from natural gas, and there is no other economically viable method of producing it at the present time.

Natural gas can be used in current car engines, and has much better handling properties. But no, we should take natural gas, strip off the carbon (so you still have the same CO2 issue), some of the energy, and voila! You now have a hard to handle fuel with a much lower energy density. What a great idea!

The next most viable method is electrolysis. Economically, you would need huge amounts of cheap electricity to make it viable. If you have large amounts of cheap electricity, why do you need the hydrogen? Electric cars make much more sense, and the infrastructure for distribution already exists, although it would need upgrading.

So the whole "hydrogen economy" thing made me sick. Everybody ran around fretting about the engineering issues and the infrastructure. Car manufacturers rolled out hydrogen cars, filling stations were built, plans were made. You can roll in your ultra green H2 powered car, and fill it with ultra clean H2, made from fossil fuel.

Until a method can be found to produce H2 cleanly and economically, nothing else really matters. It drove me crazy that emphasis and effort were focused in the admittedly difficult engineering and infrastructure problem, but the main problem was largely ignored: there is no economically viable way to produce hydrogen. Perhaps there will be some day.

The "hydrogen economy" was a huge scam, in my opinion. Huge amounts of time and money have been expended on this nonsense. Money that perhaps could have been spent in actually trying to find a way to make H2 economically, which does make sense.

Sorry to be political, but remember that this nonsense was heavily pushed by a US administration that rejected science in general and had very poor grasp of even simple economic issues.

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11/18/2011 10:45 AM

During the last 10 years Methanol was the up and coming hope. Easy to recharge, uninterrupted power to all small and sundry. Now the favorite hope is Hydrogen. Hydrogen as material is a real bear compared to Methanol.

Where are our methanol batteries.?

But hope must spring eternal.

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11/18/2011 12:05 PM

I stopped reading at paragraph 3 when the author stated that electricity is a primary energy form like hydrocarbons. IDIOT!!!!

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11/18/2011 12:20 PM

I know what primary energy sources are; it was a writing mistake since it was leading into the discussion of hydrocarbons and electricity as means of conversion. I appreciate you pointing it out, however bluntly.

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11/18/2011 12:38 PM

Hydrogen economy is thinking too big. We need to think small first. We're constantly wasting money on attempts to put the cart in front of the horse. It's a waste, and it sours people's attitudes on new technology.

Wasn't this just on here somewhere a few weeks ago?

Anyway, as usual, I defer to smarter people than me to figure it out.

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11/23/2011 7:32 AM

<...wasting money on attempts to put the cart in front of the horse...>

Shouldn't that read the 'car in front of the house'?

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11/19/2011 7:26 AM

Only upside to Hydrogen fuel is you can use it run a nice big V8 IC engine whilst wearing your illusory green halo.

There's just something about fire and noise that does it for me.....

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