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Hybrid Vehicles: What the Milkman Never Told You

Posted May 06, 2008 12:01 AM by dstrohl

Walker Dynamotive built electric delivery trucks from 1906 to 1942. The Chicago-based company also built little-known gas-electric drive delivery vans in the late 1930s for Borden, among others. As one observer wrote, "Just goes to show there's nothing new under the sun. Just think how much FedEx, UPS and the USPS would be saving now if they were using trucks with gas-electric, of better yet, diesel-electric power trains fur urban delivery routes."

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05/06/2008 11:06 PM

Ferdinand Porche the father of the present owner of this brand of cars, built his first car that was an electric car but found that the batteries were too heavy for climbing some streets that were too steep in Germany in 1858, before he joined as a consulting engineer for Mercedes. I believe I read this a long time ago on CR4, this was however not a Hybrid

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05/07/2008 12:15 AM

You are quite right about dr Porsche he built several petrol electric vehicles early in his career including some with hub motors and I think one Four wheel drive. the best design that I have seen also dates from the edwardian period when Entz designed his electric transmission. It was used in some american battleships and he and others built a small number of cars. it is very clever in having the engine drive a (rotating) stator the armature being connected toa second armature which then connected directly to the rear wheels. A second stator was fixed to the chassis/transmission case. This very clever system allowed for a magnetic lockup at cruising speed providing a direct drive ratio. variations in stator/armature wiring created some 4+ speeds ( the higher 'gears' provided by a resistor bank). the downside was if you forgot to change out of top at the right time the engine stalled. You can find more info under Entz Transmission in all teh usual places like Wikipedia or Google.

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05/07/2008 8:26 AM

As the author of that story about Porsche, I'm flattered that you remembered it, vishmayor. Here's an excerpt from that piece, which was a biography of Ferdinand Porsche in CR4's own Great Engineers and Scientists Blog.

"In 1898, Porsche joined Jackob Lohner & Co, a Vienna-based builder of coaches and automobiles. Porsche's first design, a carriage-like car powered by lead-acid batteries and driven by dual electric motors, debuted at the Paris World Exhibition in December of that same year. Although Porsche's first vehicle was speedy, its 1,800-kg battery-pack made hill-climbing difficult. The inventor's solution, an internal combustion engine and a smaller battery pack, represented the first petroleum-electric hybrid vehicle."

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05/07/2008 2:21 PM

Gosh ! How come they don't keep on improving on that technology with the electric trucks? Imagine how those puppys will be at the next level today waaoouuh!

Then probably by now we would had like some kind of ultra economical vehicles with plenty of juice to stay runing all day long without stalling much. And then now with hi tech solar cell and sensors everywhere and all of these goodies forget it we'll be back on business for good then. I tell you what let's go for back for it and- "crank those puppys up"!

You have the technology...

MC

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05/08/2008 5:36 PM

diamond t is a pld name. looking for what the connection to the chrysler outboard motor engine, the reo 8 h.p. heavy duty single piston industrial slant engine and the celebrated chrysler 225 lant 6 might bring up is something along the line of how the miserly gas consumption of the old borden's beater was not appreciated by the dodge brothers.

while you look at it find out where the tucker came into play with the design of the drive train for them.

'da ber

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