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Static charge

07/23/2008 2:09 AM

Hi guys,

we have a reactor in our plant with glass line coating inside it is for acidic reactions. the reactor is earthed for out side. we want to be assured that the static charge developed inside the tank is also earthed. We see that because of glass line there is no path for charge to flow. Is there any device by which we can monitor the amount of charge develped and way to disspate it.

Actually this doubt arises because we often use solvents for reactions whose flash point is very low so this is of concern for us.

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Re: Static charge

07/23/2008 4:43 AM

It depends a lot upon the conductivity of the reaction mix.

If there is acid present, then there will be ionic species in the mix, which will increase the conductivity, in which case there will not be a problem with static electricity. However, if all the reactions are with species that are not ionic, then there is a risk of static build-up.

There is no way of earthing an electrical insulator, and electrical insulators are where static electricity is most likely to be found. Inserting an earthed conductive rod into a charged insulator is akin to erecting a lightning conductor in a thunderstorm - it increases the risk of a static spark being produced.

Generally speaking, pipe velocities below 1m/s in organic liquids do not give rise to static electricity hazards.

It can be shown that turbulence in ultrapure water piping can give rise to static electricity problems that persist for a few metres downstream of the turbulence point, and this phenomenon can affect the readings given by some types of ultrasonic flowmeters.

Most pharmaceutical bulk manufacture takes place under an inert gas blanket. By excluding oxygen from the environs of the reaction, even if a spark discharge were to occur, there is generally insufficient oxygen around to support combustion or explosion. Nitrogen is the most popular inerting gas and there are many special precautions to be taken using this gas as it is an asphyxiant. A preliminary discussion with bulk gas suppliers would be a useful next step. In the UK, telephone calls to customer support at both British Oxygen and Air Products (usual disclaimer) would prove valuable.

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Re: Static charge

07/24/2008 5:39 AM

I had a similar problem once

Depends if your solvent is a hydrocarbon - non polar. If it is this can generate the stauc within its mass and I have seen sparks shoot from the mass to the stirrer - earthing was useless. In this cae=se I was able to add glco;l and make it conductive. It is still advisable (belt and braces) to use an inerte atmosphere.

You say "acid reaction" so you are probably esterifying and using solvents which are polar and conductive - should not be a problem but probably better to use inert gas still.

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Re: Static charge

07/24/2008 10:36 AM

<...seen sparks shoot from the mass to the stirrer...> The stirrer is behaving like a lightning conductor in a thunderstorm!

Danger of explosion - USE AN INERT ATMOSPHERE!

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07/24/2008 8:22 AM

There are anti-static agents that can sometimes be carefully selected and added to your non-polar solvent which will compensate to a degree for non-polar solvents tendency to develop static charge. As previously mentioned, a non-oxygen atmosphere above the solvent/reaction mix would be very wise because of the possibility the anti-static agent could become depleted in the course of the reaction. Either staying above the UEL or keeping an inert atmosphere above the solvent is the only thing keeping you from having a serious incident.

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