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Does A Maintenance Electrician Have To Be Licensed?

09/11/2013 4:22 PM

Also does a Maintenance Electrician have to maintain an electrical license year to year like residential/commercial electricians do?
A friend asked this question after reviewing an industrial maintenance electrician job description which most make no mention of being licensed, the answer may surprise you... See http://bin95.blogspot.com/2013/09/MaintenanceElectrician-LicensedElectrician.html
Also please comment here or there ...

  • What has been your experience with this?
  • Is this basically the same for other countries?
  • What about building maintenance? Apartment maintenance?
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Re: Does A Maintenance Electrician Have To Be A Licensed?

09/11/2013 4:45 PM

"What has been your experience with this?"

This belongs in the commercial section.

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Re: Does A Maintenance Electrician Have To Be A Licensed?

09/11/2013 10:43 PM

Depends on the state.

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09/12/2013 12:14 AM

All technicians,foremen,supervisors & engineers to be licenced in the relevant field similar to doctors called dentist,dietician,cardiologist etc etc. For instance in the electrical field electricians to be certified as domestic wireman,indistrial wireman, panel builder,MCC builder,HV electrician,LV electrician, HV transmission line technician,plc technician,domestic appliance technician etc etc after proper training and certification. Single person may be allowed to be licenced in one or more fields if found competent. They should carry a visiting card with photograph,passport nr, licence nr, field of specialisation,contact nr,residential address etc etc. They should be conversant in first aid too.

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09/12/2013 1:04 AM

On what authority/fantasy do you base this disjointed statement?

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09/12/2013 6:37 AM

From the safety and economic points of view. If he makes a mistake he or the user might get electrocuted. If equipment catches fire/causes fires to others economic loss occurs. As per regulations should he give a warranty or does he give a test certificate acceptable to insurance agents or factory inspectors?.

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09/12/2013 8:19 AM

pnahan-

Oh golly, now I may have to get a license to repair the wife's lamp! What license would I have to get-

domestic wireman

industrial wireman

panel builder

MCC builder

HV electrician

LV electrician

HV transmission line technician

plc technician

domestic appliance technician

etc.

Oh, I forgot, I must get training first before certification!

Please help me! She wants it fixed right away!!!!

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09/12/2013 12:57 AM

In Canada, electricians do not need to be licensed for maintenance or construction jobs. Some one must hold a license for the plant or job, and others can work under their license. The license holder is responsible for any work done. If the inspector finds a problem, then the license holder is responsible. If you are a one man shop, then you must be the license holder. There are different licenses as to service size and voltages involved. In large plants quite often the license is often held by an engineering firm.

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09/12/2013 1:54 AM

That really is more how it actually works in the US also. A license is required to work independently, but others can actually work under a licensed individual. This is why many maintenance electricians do not have licenses. The advantage of a license is that it makes you portable. If you are only working under someone else, you are more like an apprentice or helper in a way. It is really hard to change employers.

Many construction jobs have wording in contracts that everyone must be licensed. However, in maintenance shops I've used electricians who had many years of experience and were quite good, but they never had a license. This was true in probably 20 states over the years that I worked in. There may be state with other laws, but have not worked in them.

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09/12/2013 3:21 AM

Part P of the Building Regulations applies in the UK. Part P work needs to be done by a qualified Electrician, for that individual needs to be raise a certificate for the work on completion in compliance with Part P.

Other work falling outside Part P can be carried out by any competent person.

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09/12/2013 3:41 AM

At the plant I work at in the UK, it isn't a legal requirement of the companies insurance company, to employ a licensed person, only a 'Reasonably Competent Person'. But as a matter of course we stipulate that anybody applying for a position within the Electrical Department has undertaken and passed the 17th Edition Wiring Regulations (BS 7671) course.

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09/12/2013 1:41 PM

In New York City, being licensed is a requirement before anyone can work as an electrician. It is regulated by the city, labor union mandated, as well as insurance requisite. Hospital employed electrician also are required to have at least one of its electricians must be issued or possessed a "special" type license, that its issuance, applications, and practices are only good within the bounds of that particular hospital.

A regular electrician license is required before anyone can conduct business dealings with any entity, be it public or private, to do any electrical related works. The license is also a prerequisite before any person can be dealt with or entertained by the power provider such as Consolidated Edison, which is the main power generator and provider for the city.

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09/13/2013 10:07 AM

Yes, those are obvious and common electrical occupations requiring the electrical license. What I meant in original post and should have stated "Manufacturing Maintenance"

Also in my 30 years, never seen a manufacturing plant where a licensed electrician follows up after every daily machine repair or modification to inspect each and every manufacturing maintenance tech's electrical work. (Like someone else here mentioned.) It would not be physically possible and surely not cost effective. It would be cheaper for each manufacturing maintenance person to maintain an annual electrical license in that case.

And then you bring PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers) into the mix, which is just electrical wiring done via a computer screen. How many manufacturing instrument technicians, IT personnel, PLC techs, maintain the annual electrical license? After all, every time they change a PLC program, they are changing the electrical wiring for that machine.

That is more what i meant when I started this discussion.

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09/13/2013 10:54 AM

If the repairer make any change in the original circuit,is there a requirement for him to mark it in a drawing and handover to the end user?.

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09/13/2013 1:01 PM

"And then you bring PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers) into the mix, which is just electrical wiring done via a computer screen. How many manufacturing instrument technicians, IT personnel, PLC techs, maintain the annual electrical license? After all, every time they change a PLC program, they are changing the electrical wiring for that machine."

I think you are a bit confuse? I can't find any "PLC" mentioned nor been included in my comment!

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09/13/2013 4:05 PM

Yes, I believe you are confused. The 'PLC' was just an example. My point was and still is, my original question should have specifically asked ...

" Does A Manufacturing Maintenance Electrician Have To Be Licensed?"

I was just clarifying because you brought up all kinds of jobs not related to manufacturing.

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09/13/2013 11:17 PM

Not only electricians but mechanics,welders,home appliance repairmen,A/C-Fridge repairmen,radio-TV-mobile phone repairmen etc too should be certified to make sure they are capable of doing a good job. They should be able to give cost estimate once equipment is dismantled to the client. Who can monitor this if government elected by people don't do?.

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