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Hydraulic Elevator Problem

12/13/2013 1:44 AM

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Are their experts people here help me if what is the problem w/ our hadraulic elevator 1987 model w/ a capacity of 3 tons. It is serving a 4 floor level building and each level is 5 meter high. our problem is: when it serving goint to 4rt floor and it reach the level of half a meter (approximately) below the 4rth floor landing the car start to tilt and pressure went up 2 times the setting pressure to cut off the control power. this elevator have to cylender pistons ( 1 form each side) but control by 1 solenoid valve. from the solenoid valve connected the hose and "T" coupling to supply the 2 cylender. The tilting is about 15 20 degress but when we check the guide rails it is also allign. but we hear a scrithing sound before it tilt like it is rubbibg in a solid object. please help if you idea of what is the problem. thanks

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Re: Hydraulic elevator problem

12/13/2013 4:36 AM

Elevator should be serviced and inspected by authorized and qualified people. Is the supplier on vacation? Call him.

The elevator runs on tracks and probably on one side there is an obstacle that hinders the move to the top. Tracks can be bolted together and something could have happened with the connection, a bolt sticking out or something that blocks the cage.

Unless you are very familiar with elevators, let someone do it.

This is a job to be done from on the top (roof of the cage) and the elevator must be able to stop on request.

Check also for oil level in the tank. One cylinders can also be damaged, although I bet on the obstacle theory.

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12/13/2013 7:39 AM

Thanks for you information. The tracks beeb checked for any obstacle and even alignment. But it is all ok. This elevator was contructed by German contractor 25 years ago. We get 1 local service company here in Saudi Arabia but they can not find the fault. They are servicing another brand of elevator. They tell us only that may the chain or a piston of cylender is causing the problem but not specific which one or they are not sure too.

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12/13/2013 9:45 AM

Maybe it's time for a new elevator eh??

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12/13/2013 12:25 PM

OK so what information do you supply ? You state a problem, and a basic specification but WHAT manufacturer and WHAT model, and WHAT specific information do you provide ?? We cannot SEE we cannot TOUCH you ask us to IMAGINE ??

Perhaps you should imagine we gave you an answer it is written on the back of this post, do you see it ?

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12/13/2013 12:32 PM

I agree with dvmdsc get some one qualified to look at it.

Ever have anyone check the fluid level in the reservoir. The pump sucking air will make some noise. A disproportional amount of air to the cylinders would cause the tilt. Most have proportional valves with two cylinders. They do not work well with air.

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Re: Hydraulic Elevator Problem

12/15/2013 11:04 AM

The problem can be solved by phoning the elevator manufacturer and arranging for a service call-out visit. It may even be a requirement of the premises' insurance company. If in doubt, place it out-of-service until this has taken place.

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Re: Hydraulic Elevator Problem

12/18/2013 7:07 AM

Have you checked for restriction in the guide rails and for bent piston rods. Also if there is a loss of seal between the piston head and barrel fluid could by pass and cause an hydraulic lock in one ram. Try isolating the elevator from the rams by holding the cage at the top of the shaft and running the rams with no weight on them. Good luck

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12/18/2013 7:35 AM

Thanks prof peanut. The pistons are okay,no bending nor leakage. its work up to level 3. Only in level 4 which have problem when it reach between 3 - 5 inches below the landing floor level. sometime the other side reach the landing floor level but in other side it is still about 2 -3 inches below the landing floor level and the pressure switch is acitivated. Our pressure switch is set at 60 bar. but normal operation is only between 30-40 bar. this elevator is made by Guebauerr of Switzerland and they don't have agent here in Sadi Arabia. This was installed by German contractors back in 1988.

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12/22/2013 4:20 AM

I am beginning to wonder of the rams are both the same length and if their strokes are long enough to reach the correct height. If you run out of stroke on one side and the other can keep extending it will cause a tilting of the cage. Again, the rams must be tested independent of the cage and possibly even one by one. Let us know how it goes.

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