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Dec. 7, 1941: Attack at Pearl Harbor a Bold, Desperate Gamble

Posted December 07, 2011 10:11 AM

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Seeing no way to avoid a war with the United States and seeing no way to defeat the Americans in a protracted struggle, the Japanese stake everything on a quick strike against the heart of the U.S. Navy.

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12/07/2011 10:25 AM

Er, this is Engineering, not History, Politics, Psychology or Sociology.

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12/07/2011 1:10 PM

agree

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12/07/2011 6:46 PM

Aw c'mon guys.

Just because you're an engineer, is that really all you ever want to discuss?

Boo

That attack was the worst blunder the Japanese ever made.........................well, besides thinking that somehow a tiny island nation could rule the world.

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12/08/2011 12:26 AM

I don't know the poms had a go at ruling the world(waves) and they're a tiny island nation!

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12/08/2011 1:33 AM

Well, it worked for Great Britain for a while....

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12/08/2011 2:15 AM

How was it a blunder , it was the beginning of the end of nationalistic Japan and the start of export powerhouse it would become.

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12/08/2011 7:02 AM

They didn't know that at the time. The rebuilding of Japan and the end of nationalism that helped turn Japan into an export powerhouse was kindly provided by the US taxpayers.

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12/09/2011 7:50 AM

I don't think it was a blunder at all........but I could be bias.

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12/08/2011 12:23 PM

then they should have put a different spin on it.

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12/08/2011 1:04 PM

Probably so. At the very least, I don't think bombing Pearl Harbor was an act of desperation.

They fully expected to win the war.

It also runs the risk of stirring up some very heated emotional feelings, which is why I'm going to tip toe my way right on out of here.

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12/08/2011 1:50 PM

Come back here,

agree, they expect to have total dominance in the Pacific by spring. if they didn't, they would be screwed and they knew it.

and because of WWII, it really shuffled the powers and develop technology. Thats the spin,

I just thought it was interesting, I had started a blog in black history month, and what was going on with the effects of blacks and slavery, but it was shut down, which was fine, I started it because I had a slow day. But it was shut down because it didn't have nothing to do with engineering, which they didn't even give it a chance.

And I was waiting for a response (baited) to lead me in with George Washington Carver and the like...... the reason was, this was an engineering site not a political or social issues.

My response was look at the home page right now and how many threads don't pertain to engineering and was actually political/social.

heres an exaggerated exchange of what happened.

Me: but...

them: no

Me: but, I was....

them: no

Me: Wait, I was just goi.......

them: (fingers in ears and saying) nah, nah nah, nah...... can't hear you.

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12/08/2011 2:14 PM

I know it. It's a pesky little habit they have. All I can say, is that there must be some set of separate rules for bloggers than the ones that are posted for the rest of us.

I don't think we can do anything to change it. Fortunately, they throw up enough political blogs to allow me to rant a couple of times a week......................I just can't be the one that starts them.

Nothing wrong with your thread during black history month, but they do tend to err on the safe side. They probably were worried that some racist would pop up and start spouting off................it wasn't anything personal towards you.

I've had them instantly yank my threads from the front page, only to find them back on there the next day. It's a judgement call by the moderators, and each one of them has a different personality, and idea of what's acceptable. They're just people too.

Look at it this way....................didn't they steal your idea and put up a blog about Eli Whitney and the cotton gin?

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12/09/2011 7:49 AM

I agree, then there are times when it well justified......or at least poor judgement due to blogging too late at night.

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12/08/2011 12:10 PM

Years ago I read the book, "Day of Deceit." It certainly was/is controversial, but it is thought-provoking. The premise being that FDR felt like the U.S. needed to get involved in WWII, but because of public sentiment against it, had to find some way to change it. The book lays out the case for and enactment of this "plan." I see the conclusions as very plausible. And ever since I came to know about the mention of Pearl Harbor in reference to "galvanizing" the public in "Project for the New American Century," (see section 2.3 here) I can't help wondering...
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I just remembered that the author appeared on BookTV years ago. I keep forgetting to watch it, but for those interested the video is here.
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