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CR4 Insight: Post Stats

Posted March 23, 2013 12:00 AM by SavvyExacta

If you're curious about the posts on CR4 (Who's talkative? Who's helpful? How many posts are there on CR4?) then read on - this infographic has some answers!

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03/23/2013 7:00 AM

But wait, there's more: Your most active member, 'lyn,' posts at a rate of fifty-three times the average rate of your 2000 most-prolific members, computed as the total number of posts made by this group divided by the total time all have been members. These figures do not take into account members whom are shown as still being members but whom are no longer active. Many of your early and more prolific members have not posted in several years, skewing these results somewhat (member 'lyn's post-rate/member-day would be somewhat higher consequently). Of your roughly 70,000 members your 100 most prolific members account for fully half of all posts made to this forum, ie, 0.14% of your membership account for nearly 50% of all traffic. 75% of all posts to this forum were posted by 0.71% of your membership. Again, these results do not take into account the time your inactive members have been inactive.

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03/23/2013 9:41 AM

It's a general law, just like economics. The top 1% does/gets as much as the bottom 99% of whatever it is....

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03/23/2013 9:48 AM

Fifteen minutes of (statistical-analysis, in this case) fame? lol -Andy Warhol

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03/23/2013 10:01 AM

For this site the disparity is actually bit greater than the norm: the top 1/700 does/gets as much as the bottom 699/700 of whatever it is, but generally speaking you're quite correct.

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03/25/2013 8:30 AM

Maybe you were thinking of Sturgeon's Revelation (sometimes mistakenly called Sturgeon's Law): "Ninety percent of everything is crap."

Sturgeon's Law is: Nothing is always absolutely so.

[-Both sayings are from Theodore Sturgeon, science fiction writer]

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03/23/2013 5:16 PM

Whom taught you to use the word "whom" so callously?

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03/23/2013 5:47 PM

The Life of the Party has arrived. Abandon Thread.

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03/23/2013 6:29 PM

If you are offering, please do!

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03/26/2013 2:46 AM

Posts like yours above, mean-spirited posts correcting my grammar publicly as if I were some errant little child failing an English course - not my native tongue, by the way - speak far more about you than they do about me. You could just as easily have PM'd me about it - something a true gentleman would have done without a moment's hesitatation, but you are not a gentleman. Not in the slighest. Your interest, moreover, is not in my correct usage at all. Not one single bit. That part of it is just the dressing, the ruse, the vehicle from which you launch your attack on the New Guy. I suspect I am not the first person here you have trolled, nor the last, that you have done this many times before. You have the routine down pat, but without one single clue as to what your actions speak about you. About me they say nothing, save possibly that I used the word 'whom' incorrectly. Quite honestly, I would much prefer to plead "Guilty!" a hundred times over to that crime, than even once to yours.

Is it really any wonder that fully half of CR4's membership join but are never heard from again? And of the remaining members, 95% of these post once or a few times, and are likewise never heard from again? Imagine if these statistics were true of Facebook or Twitter! Even their names would be missing from the lexicon. This is supposed to be a professional site, so what is keeping the professionals away? What is keeping many quality people away from this site, and why are your numbers of quality posters slowly ebbing away? You can thank yourself and your ilk for that, troll. Your efforts are paying off handsomely.

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03/26/2013 3:11 AM

I think we should not give much importance to English language but to content. Like you I am also not native of England or U.S. We have working knowledge of English so content is more important.

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03/26/2013 3:19 AM

You may wish to address your post directly to Mr. Holzfeller. If anyone here is having an issue (however contrived) with language, that would be Mr. Holzfeller.

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03/26/2013 4:52 AM

You are quite right, and I apologise.

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03/26/2013 5:20 AM

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03/29/2013 10:39 AM

Some comments on grammar/spelling correction:

1) Comments on grammar are common among the prolific posters on CR4 (lyn and I have an ongoing "competition")

2) We make allowances for non-native speakers

3) It was not clear (at least to me) that you are a non-native speaker. Therefore, please take as a compliment that one of us would correct your grammar - it means the rest of your written English is good enough to "fool" us (if that's the right term)

4) Now we (who read this thread at least) know you're a non-native speaker, we will endeavour to remember not to correct your grammar. Please forgive us where we fail.

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03/23/2013 11:02 AM

Seems JRaef and AH are not here for talking! :-)

Less than 10000 posts but in the high GA ranks!

Congrats all.

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03/23/2013 11:31 AM

Some other posters who have many GAs in relation to their post quantities include M Samad, Abdel Halim Galala, and tcmtech.

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03/24/2013 8:47 AM

Well some just respond to their respective field of knowledge! I like the straight forward posts from Abdel Halim. He has a lot of knowledge and I havent seen a post that was not worth the good answer! The list should also contain all those that contribute not in quantity but in quality!

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03/25/2013 9:01 AM

I agree. Its the subject matter expert.

If there was a catagory for this for GA, it's my opinion that Abdel Halim Galala takes this hands down.

He is one of the most helpful people on a social web site that I know.

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03/27/2013 10:45 PM

Let us not forget Jorrie

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03/28/2013 8:44 PM

Hasn't posted in a while, or at least not in the threads i ventured.

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03/28/2013 2:29 PM

Thanks for the honorable mention but I think most of my GA's come from the giggle factor more than anything else.

Personally I rarely ever use the GA or OT buttons unless it's to undo obvious troll votes.

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03/23/2013 11:00 PM

One thing great about CR4 is the diversified & specialized nature of topics & departments.

Most of the solution providers are professional having in depth knowledge value to the topic of discussion.

A wonderful platform for global community to interact, share & enrich mutual knowledge.

Absolutely free of charges which again is a unique feature.

The quality & culture of participation & discussions.

I keep recommending CR4 to many of the Engineering College faculties just to introduce students to the forums / discussions which teach to most extent the basics also & rather would be an educative platform from known to unknown.

Comprises vast age group members from thirsty & curious youngsters to seasoned oldies.

The diplomatic culture of appreciation of other's inputs and refining

In the long future to come , it will be a global treasury of specialised knowledge for mankind, if my perception is not an exaggeration

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03/24/2013 12:41 AM

Excellent, thoughtful reply. GA

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03/24/2013 7:14 AM

Congratulations to all our friends and to CR4 Forum. Butttttttttttttt we need to improve the forum by making some positive changes which are overdue.

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03/24/2013 8:51 AM

There was a lot changes recently. What else do you suggest? One thing for sure, we are not going to change the people here. Whats in your mind???

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03/25/2013 2:01 AM

Maybe he wants an Elitists section?

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03/25/2013 3:16 AM

Here are my suggestions sent to Admin. in past:-

1. Popularise CR4 by sending broadcast e-mails to industries through your directory of various industries.

2. Explain in e-mail the objective of CR4.

3. Inform engineers that they can avail of free problem solving replies from the professionals all around the world.

4. Best thing will be all posts are edited by the experienced engineer before they are published in CR4, this includes replies also.

5. There should be a section where engineers can give their opinions about performance of particular brand of equipments including the star ratings.

I hope my suggestions will help you in redesigning CR4 Forum.

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03/27/2013 11:05 AM

Hello Shuresh

Not trying to give you a hard time, but CR4 is popular enough, just consider how much posts are placed in search of help from so many countries, so I think the objective of the site is clear to many.

The editing of all posts and replies would require a whole legion of editors; even a small talk thread would be delayed to the point that it would be abandoned, and worst of all, the value of the posts wouldn't change by editing, only your personality would be filtered out. We are not a database, we are persons.

The last part, well, I rant about brands without the need of a dedicated section; yes I hate Allen-Bradley's servos ultra 3000, they are crap, nothing but a bunch of feedback problems (just an example).

I'd rather read your posts in your own words, the cultural variety seasons the site.

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Hi Yahlasit,

Thanks for your comments, can I reply as under:-

1.Past few months there were very few participants in CR4. That is why I suggested for popularising the forum.

2.There were ugly comments about some very primitive questions from students which were labelled as "home work" questions and there were nasty replies from Gurus. That required initial editing of the post.

3.About experience from our members regarding different brands, it was just suggestion which could have helped fellow members.

I hope now you will appreciate my views.

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03/25/2013 1:29 PM

What you don't list is the ratio of good answers to the number of posts. There are many like me who do not want to respond to a question unless we have something of value to to add to the topic of discussion. It is not like I am trying to collect GAs like a game, but rather, that I take some pride that this community values what I have to say when I do post.

The other factor is available time. When I was working, my employer did not want me "wasting my time" on this site. When I was home, my wife had better things for me to do. Now that I am retired, I think that you will be hearing more from me, for better or worse.

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03/25/2013 1:31 PM

I can analyze that data for a future post if there's interest.

And I'm glad to hear you'll be spending more time on CR4!

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03/27/2013 3:28 AM

You need only two persons to vote for you to get G.A. Suppose three friends gang up and have understanding to vote each other in set of two, they can score good numbers of G.As. It will be wiser if some one from CR4 decides to give G.As then it is realy worth.

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03/27/2013 5:59 AM

It would be easier and more revealing if the 'Rate' menu listed who had voted a post as either GA or OT.

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03/27/2013 7:47 AM

Then the GA is taken too seriously.

The members that posted a GA that was truely a GA can take comfort that they assisted..... IMO.

But the ones that are concerned about GA counts...... well, I don't have an answer for that.

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03/27/2013 11:30 AM

Eventhough sometimes we join our opinions with someone out of simpathy, we are not gangsters that agree to behave dishonestly against or in favour of no one here.

Some one from CR4 evaluating all posts ? Are you serious ? Even if he was very wise, the rating of all posts would be subject to his own judge and mood. A good answer is a good answer for the majority of the voters and it will be rated as such, in spite of the eventual troll.

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03/29/2013 10:53 AM

Back in CR4's first incarnation, when there were only around 100 or so members (and before we got the user number issued on this version), there was a rating system in place which was audited by the members.

The Admins/site computer picked members who had posted a certain number of times in a week and then offered them the chance to agree or disagree with the rankings given to 10 posts. We had three rating options: Useful, Worthless and Funny (can't remember what they were actually called, but it boiled down to those). The Auditor was asked if they agreed or not.

I found some really interesting posts and threads that way (you were only asked to audit posts on threads to which you hadn't posted) and met people like KenFry and AH in the process.

The current voting system is self-regulating...if you don't agree with a ranking, you can vote against it.

I would like to see a three option vote though: GA, OT, and Amusing.

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03/27/2013 10:03 AM

I like your attitude and also your GA/post ratio.

Just added another one for all to see!

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03/26/2013 10:29 AM

This does not actually reflects the real contribution of many members in this forum.

♦ Many GAs are not real GAs at all. Some are wrong and some are just funny. I still believe that the "number" of GAs of the members doesn't really show how much helpful they really are. (Of course, I don't underestimate the 7 top GA members who are much active and helpful too.) The members' quality and contribution cannot be measured with an absolute "GA number".

♦ Many people have presented interesting threads in CR4 (and some others have asked very interesting questions), giving 'food for thought' for many interesting discussions and arising interesting ideas through them. Do they deserve some credits too??? So, I think that -beside the GA- we should, also, introduce the GT (good topic) or even GQ (good question).

Of course, I know that all these are "quality issues". And I know that quality is not easily measurable.

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03/26/2013 10:36 AM

These are good points. Validity and meaning of GA votes is often discussed. Your second point, giving credit to those who star out with a good thought, is another factor. The thread rating feature is not widely used.

That being said, this post was just for fun.

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03/26/2013 9:04 PM

It would be easier to see a breakdown in GA's instead of adding more catagories to it.

i mean where the GA's are earnt , Instead of GA, GT (good troll ) GQ, GJ (good Joke), GHQ (Good Homework Question), GS (Good strawman) etcetera.

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03/27/2013 7:21 AM

What about a withdrawable vote? You would be able to cancel your vote for a GA (not someone else's). See what happens in longer threads.

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03/27/2013 10:08 AM

I believe that you can withdraw your vote. If you voted GA for a thread and you go back and vote OT instead the GA and OT cancel out each other. You only have one vote!

Check it out and read the fine print when voting.

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03/27/2013 12:48 PM

FANTASTIC COVERAGE and ANALYSIS.

PERSONAL comments should not be allowed and must be removed then and there.

In the past few days, some comments are appearing like a personal attack, I raised this issue on 5 different occasions. Two days back, I raised (to Anonymous Poster) "WHAT MADE YOU TO GET PROVOCATED and we SHOULD NOT OFFEND ANY MEMBER.......?, by our adverse comment.

The High Standards of CR4 to be maintained and further improved, and HAND OVER to NEXT GENERATION(S) .

After all the KNOWLEDGE should be propagated and spread in all directions by LEAPS and BOUNDS, thus we contribute MORE to the Society, what we have we have taken/enjoyed a share, from the Society.

Monitors/Moderators can think on this issue.

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