Water is only the start of it;

OK, here's one more... What about a thread of pictures of the most amazing things you've ever seen (no wise cracks!) or pictures that have affected you in some way.

Here's one for interest of a forest of crystals found recently in a cave in Mexico. It takes a little while to grasp what's really going on in this picture...

Here's a follow on link vermin. The contained links are interesting too.

Thank you all for your informative responses. I especially enjoyed the sliced sausages, but in the name of science, the most amazing pictures thread idea is winning. What is going on in the amazing pictures could be either added by the blogger or the viewer (they might want to guess).

Seems like a great idea for a new thread. Unless anyone has seen a UFO lately?

One question at a time:

I do, I do, I do, I'm not sure, I do or don't, I'm not sure, perhaps not, why would anyone do that, I'm having a hard time accepting that, Hmmm, I do (I'm married to one), I don't, let's see (time's up!), Ahh that's a state of mind, I don't, I don't.

Whew!

Hi Jules,

Good questions (and lots of them).

Lets see, who are we?

Consider what Dr. Sam Parnia, a fellow at Weill Cornel Medical College says: "We still have no idea how brain cells generate something as abstract as a thought". The view nowadays is that the mind is more than the sum of the parts of the brain and can exist outside it. "The evidence that the mind transcends the brain is said to come from near death experiences (from Newsweek, 07/23/07).

So maybe Descartes had it right: Cogito ergo sum.

The question is as profound as ever, who, indeed, are we?

I don't know if you're read about it but I was reading a paper by Dr. Martin Bojowald of Penn State in which he states that the Big Bang probably turns out to be a Big Bounce. It seems that loop quantum gravity mechanics indicate that a prior universe collapsed and consequently gave birth to ours.

Maybe the prior universe's inhabitants placed some of their cells, DNA, etc. into a time capsule that made it through the bounce and that ultimately became us. In other words "we are them".

-John

We has met the enemy and they is us.

Agree. What can we do about it?

There is but one thing to do at a time like this, my little frog... We dance!

Vermin, This is so Deep, Truthful, and Wise to acknowledge, IMHO.

I never thought GlobalSpec's Conference Room Four would ever reach such insights expressed, especially on a typical Voodoo thread.

I'm much more than just impressed, and not the least sarcastic.

Yes truly, it's time to dance. Besides, I've never been called "My Little Frog" but I think I like it!

Please may I ask, how is this a typical voodoo thread? It is my first blog ever on UFOs and it has proven to be quite fascinating, Mr. Smith.

Can you explain all sorts of Zombie phenomena?

Can you explain aliens performing anal-inspection on harmless civilians?

As I said, Voodoo.

Just kidding.

I once told you, I have a mental disorder associated with fringe science. It's nobody's fault but my "Squareness"

I was born beveled.

It's nobody's fault, really.

Just a cruel joke of nature.

Well it was either that or "my little, verminette."

Personally, we all prefer frogs.

This one, I must keep, for posterity and all

Do what's ya gotta do.

It's awfully dark down here in Verminville, so looks don't matter that much. If they did, I think we'd be extinct by now... And mind you the verminettes are the male of the species!!!

Oh, It gets better by the minute

An American goes to a French restaurant in Paris, and asks the waiter: "Do you have Frog-Legs?"

The waiter: "Yes, I do"

American: "Then please hop to the kitchen, and bring me a steak"

The American version is something like, "Well, wear pants and no one will notice."

Are you implying Israelis are rude, or that Americans are polite, or that French are weird, or that the French version is...

What?

WHAT?!

WHAT?!?

P.S (short for Psssssst): Please note, that the Israeli version is about an American in Paris, not about an Israeli, say, asking for Humus...

This, they do at home, without the frog-intro. Just "Hop to the kitchen..." etc.

Do you really eat hummus?! It's like peanut butter only worse.

Why doesn't peanut butter taste like peanuts. I can't eat the stuff, myself. Then there's hummus - made from sesame seeds, and that doesn't taste like sesame seeds, either!!!

So what's up with that?!

Me personally, or the collective me?

Both.

I mean, both of me: I and myself, which is the dominant one of the two. too.

"...made from sesame seeds, and that doesn't taste like sesame seeds, either..."

The sesame seeds paste, is called "Tehina". It's one of the most nutritious and healthy things you can eat, and it tastes very much like sesame. It's a traditional Arab dish.

Humus, is made from chick-peas, with little Tehina added.

There. Glad to have been of service.

Two bucks, please.

Yeah, that's right. It made of what we call garbanzo beans. I'm assuming from the Italians. It still doesn't taste like garbanzo beans!!!

What's that like?

Hummus, garbonzo beans, sesame seeds and tahini are staples of we upstate New Yorkers who are also vegetarians. MMMMM!

Changing the subject briefly, have you guys seen this?

UFO sightings bring town to a standstill

A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky.

Drinkers spilled out of pubs, motorists stopped to gawp and camera phones were aimed upwards as the five orbs, in a seeming formation, hovered above Stratford-Upon-Avon for half an hour.

The unidentified flying objects lit up the otherwise clear night sky above Shakespeare's birthplace in Warwickshire on Saturday.

When did this happen. Did only drunks see it? Could it have been the pink elephant getaway car?

Well, they came out of the pub and then saw it, rather than seeing it before entering the pub. I want to know *what* they were drinking.

The Little Verminette.

"The unidentified flying objects lit up the otherwise clear night sky above Shakespeare's birthplace in Warwickshire on Saturday".

Clear night sky over the U.K.? It's gotta be a hoax!

From the BBC:Last Updated: Wednesday, 19 July 2006, 11:48 GMT 12:48 UK

Aircraft pilot rescued from tree A glider pilot escaped with minor injuries when his aircraft came to land in a tree.

The British Gliding Association is investigating after the glider landed in the tree near Tysoe, Warwickshire, on Saturday evening.

The pilot, from Oxfordshire, was taken to Coventry's Walsgrave Hospital after being rescued from the tree but was not seriously hurt.

The incident took place just outside Tysoe near Shenington Gliding Club.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/5194784.stm

And That Answers That Question

[CR3]

Military flares often dropped in sequenced formation to cover desired sectors. Those, are dropped from heights of kilometers above, and seem to be hanging still, in mid air, silent, looking exactly like the ones shown in the attached video-clip of the event.

I know this in person. I've seen it dozens of times. I recognised it in the video immediately. Flying object? More like very-slow-dropping (with a small, attached, parachute). Un-identified? Not really.

Every Ground Trooper who ever received air support know the sight. These can also be shot from mortars and cannons.

The newspaper caption should probably read:

"Flares sighting bring town to a standstill"

But then again you have to sell the suckers.

As the saying goes:

"A dog biting a man is not news. A man biting a dog, is"

"A dog biting a man is not news. A man biting a dog, is"

Look, a dog is chasing a car! No! the car is chasing the dog! Now that's news.

Did you ever wonder, when a dog chases a car, what would he do if he caught it?

-John²

John,

Thank you for your astute observations. And to the larger audience here, thank you all for your input, impact and otherwise otherworldly commentaries. It has truly been a walk down the warped side of time.

GlobalSpec Starfleet Command has just requested that I bring the next thread on this blog closer to Planet Earth for Wireless fans who don't always wish to venture into the Outer Limits of Space. I admit to squirming a bit as I love it here in hyperspace but luckily, my dear husband Jerome just located his old tape of "Star Trek, Next Generation: All Good Things" which made everything much clearer for me.

All you Trekkies out there know what I'm talking about.

So, I am posting something new, and it requires a bit of technological verbiage, but remember, like the Captain, I'm still here in that other time zone with you, hoping to defray the Time Space anomaly, allowing humanity to indeed emerge from the slime, and all the rest of the story to happen.

Jules

I have seen the enemy. And he is Us.

I just said that... Scroll up.

Sorry. My turrets medication makes me.......what are we talking about?

Nobody is answering the what technology bit...

Maybe they have very low (or now) physical mass, this would allow them to accelerate very quickly & move very fast . If they are bidirectional projections of a distant consciousness, or a remotely controlled force field this could explain the lack of physical evidence.

Or maybe they are the intersection of two 4-dimensional objects?

e.g.

Two 2-dimensional things intersect at a 1 dimensional thing....i.e two lines cross at a point.

Two 3-dimensional things intersect at a 2 dimensional thing....i.e two solid shapes intersect as an area.

So maybe two 4-dimension things intersect at a 3 dimensional object?

(I don't actually believe any of this hokum, but maybe it will induce some comment?)

"Maybe they have very low (or now) physical mass,"

Therefore they must be hubcaps (or Frisbees maybe). But OTOH (if I can just get my fingers out of the way) if we postulate that perhaps genuine UFOs do visit us from time to time (not talking here about definition of "not identified = unidentified") you may be on to something Del. It seems obvious that any intelligence can observe things in lower dimensions, but the reverse if never true. For example, the classic flatlanders existing in the X/Y plane cannot visualize, or even conceive, a Z plane, but we humans see the flatlanders without difficulty.

Therefore, since you bring up this situation, we have sort of a paradox! We (the flatlanders) should not be able to visualize or conceive of these higher dimensional "UFOs". What say you my furry friend?

Of course I'm defaulting to the old notion that our (human) logic and concepts are universal and this just might not be the case after all! The intelligence in these presumed UFOs may have found it necessary to tweak the physical laws the we deem inviolate in order to maneuver around in our little world. In higher dimensions (we call them dimensions, implying that every dimension is somehow a separate vector quantity) little things like inertia, momentum, etc. may be easily manipulatable (is that a word?). These higher dimensions may not be separate after all but may somehow bleed over and/or blend into each other kinda like tie-dyed jeans or something like that.

Even though we haven't found ways to get around such little things as F = MA, etc., nether have we discovered even one higher dimension which goes back to what I just said in the above illustration (flatlanders). We, being intelligent (as far as the "Allegory of the cave" analogy will allow us) can always dream, scheme and plan for worlds without end (forgive me Mr. D. T. I sometimes get poetical and emotional when I talk about it).

Maybe these UFO beings have rolled up quantum super strings into tangled balls large enough for us to actually see them!

Cheers

rolled up quantum super strings into tangled balls large enough for us to actually see them!

Is that what those fur balls I cough up are ?

That's why we can see you so well on CR4!

But can you execute a 90º without hitting the brakes?

If you could control the Higgs boson (see post #2 for the link), you would have control over mass and inertia. Having total control over the effects of mass would enable you to make 180s at high speed without bothering to decelerate first (so your friggin' craft won't fly apart). With the effects of mass completely negated, you would not experience any forces on your craft (nor yourself) due to acceleration. None at all. With inertia out of the way, your maneuverability is total. On the flip side, the slightest external force (say, from wind) would alter your craft's trajectory. You might then wish to vary the mass, depending on circumstances, to accommodate such things - like staying put at your landing site in a slight breeze.

What technology might enable control of the Higgs boson is anyone's guess. Theory predicts the existence of this particle (and something of its properties, including its being responsible for mass), but to date the Higgs has never been detected. The latest spate of TeV accelerators might soon change this picture.

"...low (or no) physical mass..."

That would make them out of the realm of physicality as we know it. Even particles have mass.

Are these aliens not made of atoms and molecules?

Low isn't the same as no....Havn't you seen Victoria Beckham?

Maybe the Aliens are V thin or V small.

Hey who remembers that Sci-Fi story (was it the outer limits? or the Twighlight zone?)...where the aliens landed but they turned out to be the size of flies and a dog ate their ship?

Maybe they are all fat...but hve worked out how to project thought and perception?

Better hope we don't get the technology...there are enough fat kids about already.

(If you are not in UK...substitute the appropriate PC euphamism in the previous sentence)

I think it was Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy that documented about the dog that ate two invading alien fleets.

Damn, I lost 136 of my cousins that day. Sigh......

Aren't lines 1-dimensional?
How can both lines and areas be 2-dimensional?

I'm squinting at this sideways, and although I'm convinced you're argument doesn't stand up, like the proof that 1 = 0, I'm having trouble spotted the non-sequential logic.

Got it!!

Points are 0-D, so

intersecting lines (1-D) -> point of 0-D
intersecting areas (2-D) -> line of 1-D
intersecting solids (3-D) -> area of 2-D
4-D objects intesecting -> solid of 3-D

Thank you for listening, I can go back to sleep now <rubs Del's ears>

Relax, nobody's riding your post for real. We're probably a bit bored. I've seen this scene happening a lot here.

Cheers.

riding? reading? do you think I care? why do you think I'm talking to any of you? to whom do you think I'm talking?

Mmmmmmmmm Prrrrrrrrrrrrr Mrrrowww.

Del; f you remove mass....what then is E= to? Don't forget even Albert forgot to balance the units. Where is time in his imfamous equation? Should it not be E/t=MC2(sq)? " I have become the killer of men and the distroyer of worlds. J.Op . My God! what have I done? A.Ein."

Well Jules, You did open a bag of worms here. Some are so smart, they are stupid, and some are so open minded, their brains fell out. But then there are those who see the bigger picture, and are content.

Gamza

Some are so smart, they are stupid, and some are so open minded, their brains fell out, there are those who see the bigger picture who are so well brainwashed and are content.

Identify yourself or just shut up!

Do we take it that you include yourself in latter group? It's so humbling to be so, isn't it? Pray tell.

Well you opened your mouth and let the world know which you are.

It is better for a fool to remain silent and leave some doubt, then to open it and remove all doubt.

Leave another comment and let us know the depths of your stupidity.

Evasive, aren't we?

Hiding something?

Answer the question.

Ok, Try this one on. Jesus walked through the wall when He returned from the grave, and he ate with some of those who loved Him, What was more real Jesus, or the wall he walked through.or the food He ate.

He was taken up through the clouds, and will return the same way. Is this one of those u.f.o.'s..., can you explain what happened with the small brains we all have, compaired to God's. Maybe it's time to humble ourselves, and admit there are things we can't describe in a physical sense unless we insert faith.

Whilst Jesus is beyond doubt a historically accurate figure, the accounts you cite were writen many years after the event by people who may not have witnessed them, and have been translated with dubious accuracy by many different scholars from ancient languages which are not fully or accurately understood.

As such it is naive to consider the anything more than stories.

I rest my case. It is oh so hard to speak of faith with and unarmed man.

Acually it takes more faith to beleive that all of this just happened by accident. Then to beleive in a loving God, who crated us for his pleasure.

Go take a look at this.

That is just Soooooooooo lame.

Any child can believe ...

It takes strength perseverence and wisdom to to work out the right thing to do by yourself and with the support of those you love at times of intense personal difficulty.

Faith is a SOFT option for the mentally lazy and logically challenged.

But I will quite happilly concede people's right to their faiths....

If only they would concede other people's right to different faiths or none!

The world would have much less conflict...

Just in case you don't know, Albert became a faithful person, who loved God. I'm not sure if thats relative or not.

Just in case you don't know, I'm a faithful person, who loves his wife and family. I'm not sure if that's relevant or not

OK, you asked! I am! 'and stop picking on Del.

So let me see if I have this correctly, are you saying that Albert Einstein was practicing a soft option, because he was mentally lazy, and how did you put it, "logically challenged? Bold statement thats all I have to say. It's also sad to hear that your family only warrants soft mentally lazy, and logically challenged, faith out of you.

It's not beyond probability, that Einstein was both a genius and a putz.

It is known that he had a very hard time accepting the realities dictated by quantum mechanics, realities which eventually led to the proof of some of his early predictions, such as E equals C square, to name but one.

Very interesting discussions. Has anyone thought that some of the UFOs are Earth origin but from a different time like 3600 AD? Our government's silence is a giveaway afraid to mess up the timeline. The visits may be accidental. Take the Phoenix lights as an example, one could conclude that the propulsion system might be causing a hole in space-time contineum due to some malfunctions in the system.

Just like electrons can be used to create massive magnetic fileds, there must be some particle out there that can be used to negate gravitational fields or warp space time. Find it and be rich....

I s'pose I must reply.

Whilst I wouldn't dream of criticising A.E at all...the are many possible explanations, here are two.

It is a well known fact that many people who are genius level at one disciple often lack in another...say interpersonal skills. One thoery is that they are verging on Aspurgers..my wife worked in special needs for many years and has worked with kids who were genius in maths or art but deficient in other areas, and had all sorts of behaviour problems (as indeed did he). So not maybe he was mentally lazy and logically challenged in some areas. This is not a contradiction as the genius can easilly neglect his logical skills in an area which is not 'main' interest.

Alternatively, maybe because he couldn't find the unified theory he felt he had to ascribe it to a higher authority.

I deliberately use the term faithful in regard to my family in an ambiguous manner, meaning that I was monogamous..and indicating that religion doesn't have the monopoly on morality, a fact saddly not understood by many religious people

This is a rather one sided discussion, as I have to give rational responses to you sniping...this again typifies one aspect of trying to discuss with 'blind' faith.

"...Alternatively, maybe because he couldn't find the unified theory he felt he had to ascribe it to a higher authority..."

Very plausible. To me, at least.

Remember his "Cosmological Constant"?

Boy don't you guys have anything else to do. Like I said before it takes more faith to believe this all happened by accident. As far as me making a comment about his family, he inserted that thought, not I. To mention he had faith in his wife, and family, then to say faith was for those who are mentally lazy, just seemed like he belittled them not me, all I did was put his statements together, to show how shallow his thought process is.

As far as you thinking that God and faith is to be none judgemental, then you really haven't studied the subject you are commenting on. which proves how dumb you can speak in ignorance. We are call to judge actions of others, not to judge where they stand with God, that would be the big sin of judgement. Did you not judge a way of life without getting all of the facts? 80% of America has faith in something, I guess your a part of the 20% who doesn't.

I do believe that if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. I do forgive your ignorance, it's the least I can do.

The subject was about u.f.o.'s, all I did was talk about faith, and was attacked by a person who by his words has faith in his own finite brain, only when he feels lazy. As I said before it takes more faith to believe this all happened by accident, intelligence can not come from chaos, and the so call big bang could not form this. If you are a Darwinist, common sense would tell you there would be more fossils of the transition then that of a monkey, and a human.

Did you not call me a hypocrite, without gathering all the facts to the conversation?

I do not believe in using God as a weapon to bludgeon people, I use their own words, and if you would take a little more time to study the things you talk about, you would do a lot better at not making a fool of yourself.

Ganza intones: "...proves how dumb you can speak in ignorance."

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God isn't the problem here. Nor is ignorance. Your posts are not about God, not about faith, and not about anything else of a spiritual nature. They're all about you, and your pissy, "holier than thou" put-downs of everyone else here. What is it with you? What is it? It's this: you need to make everyone else here look like shit so that you look good by comparison. With you, religion, God, and all that is just the means to that end. This much is crystal clear.

Go away, philistine.

I actually wished it was about Faith, God, Morals, and Divinity, I have beautiful thoughts about it, alas, this is not the ideal forum for it.

I too admire the graceful teachings of Jesus and believe that God is an innate entity in the living. Not just in humans. For real. Not as some lip service.

This doesn't make me religious, and I don't try to "teach" nature what it should be, but, instead, try to sincerely learn about this creation, and try to understand this divine miracle of life.

That doesn't negate or contradict science in the tiniest, faintest bit, only takes me closer to become more intimate with this breathtaking creation.

Well said Yuval..I can respect your view because, you don't preach.

And for Gamza

Religion is like homosexuality.

They are both fine as long as you don't try and ram them down my throat!

well said....bravo.

Yuval: 1

Gamza: 0

Hey...will you give my score too please?

I will accept the referee's decision as final.... I just hope it doesn't go down to penalties!

We are call to judge actions of others, not to judge where they stand with God, that would be the big sin of judgement.

That sounds like you've been "call(ed)" to commit the "big sin."

Having sinned , could you creep away and punish yourself ?

Please, do yourself grace, and read Richard Dawkins' "The Blind Watchmaker" to gain some basic understanding of how the complexity of this world evolved without prior "planning".

What you may call "accident", is the slow settlement of stabling accumulated factors over long-enough time.

Instead of trying to preach your own version of reality, and your set of unproven beliefs to the educated and confident in their proven and epoch-tested knowledge, be humble enough to learn some basics.

Humility is never a bad trait, not to the secular, not to the religious.

Come from real knowledge, not from from sectoral-dogma.

Come from Confident of tested and proven knowledge, not from the hubris of the "know-it-all", and "Need-N-Proof", and I'm sure your remarks will be listened to with much greater regard.

Oh please learn to read and keep things in context. I made a statement about where u.f.o.'s are mentioned in the Bible. Thats when this all started. I was attack by mind numb figments of their own imaginations. Read it again, pay attention to times and dates.

I only responded to comments made to me, never attacking anyone who could think intelligently, and make an argument without attacking me. If you feel big by attacking my response thats fine, I'm a big boy and can take it, but when you attack Faith, God, and how 80% of America believes, then I will use your stupidity against you. Try studying what you talk about, before you make mind numb comments that you know nothing about.

If you feel that you want to attack me fine, but I will use your statements against you, because I love to read wisdom, and love to exploit your stupidity.

a response to....yourself?

"...I only responded to comments made to me..."

Not: "...comments made by me..."

#129 in response to #124

Yup. I didn't see.

Ganza lovingly intones: "...blah blah blah stupid blah blah ignorant blah blah blah blah..."

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Forgive me, but what you are thunders so, I cannot hear what you say to the contrary.

Please, speak louder.

It's spelled Gamza, My what a witty, intellectual bunch of God hating liberals. I thought this site was for educated people, if you can't attack the content of a conversation, you resort to attacking the messenger.

The topic was u.f.o.'s, not faith, or me, but you fools continue to show your ignorance, by attacking my faith and me, so show the world your ignorance.

Proverbs15;14 " The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge; But the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness"

Wake up.

I have consistently answered your abuse with reasoned logical argument...

You have repied to none with anything other than endless repetion of 'faith' and ubuse for everyone else.

If you re-read the posts you will soon see that it is you who is the one being illogical, unscientific and abusive.

We all repeatedly say that you are welcomed to you opinions, but do not abuse and insult us just because we may not share them. Doesn't your religion preach tollerance?

Proverbs15;14 " The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge; But the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness"

You have demonstrated neither understanding nor an interest in seeking knowledge, whilst you have repeatedly utterd foolishness.

It is blind faith that leads to fanaticism.

Forget him, Del. These types almost always pick and choose Bible verses to reinforce their own positions while bludgeoning their opponents with it. It's a game of "Let's You and God Fight." They weaponize the Bible and use it either as a percussion instrument or as a club - or both. When confronted with their own hypocrisy they hide behind God's skirts and threaten, or retreat into various roles as Martyr, Prophet, Wise Man, and Judge, depending on the occasion. It's all a game. At it's root is hate. Pure and simple Hate. Hatred of people. Hatred of views which differ from their own. They're sociopaths, unable to cope with society in all its various forms - and views. This has nothing at all to do with religion and God. Other vehicles work as well, and all have been used at one time or another for the same ends. Reasoning with these people is futile. Their whole point is to establish themselves as vastly superior to others, but the illusion persists only in their own minds. You don't build walls around strengths, but around flaws - real or imagined. Gamza is weak person; a strong person has no need to play these games. You might as well reason with the wind.

Del,

I think the alien amongst us has been discovered. I wonder if his UFO will be powered by the rapture?

Maybe we should unsubscribe en-masse before we are turned into pillars of salt? Or is that just a story or an allegory (what's the difference between an allegory and a crocodile?)

What? (is the difference..) Wait, Maybe I got it:

You can turn an allegory into an alligator, but you cannot turn a crocodile into a crocogator?

LOL...I dunno it was just a silly question!! sorry!

(Well I s'pose one is a figure of speech and one is a large reptile with big pointy teeth..but I guess someone of your perspicacity knew that much already?)

I DO however know the differnce between a Buffalo and a Bison...but I don't know if it translates outside the UK...

(You can't wash your hands in a Buffalo!)

We have a similar punt in Hebrew about the difference between an elephant and a piano, but it would never translate into anything but Hebrew, not even into Arabic (which is very similar to Hebrew)... What a miss.

It goes:

מה ההבדל בין פסנתר לבין פיל ? י

אתה יכול להפיל את הפסנתר, אבל אתה לא יכול לפסנתר את הפיל

I finally got it..I think. But I'm still not clear about the relationship between the penguin and the trombone...

Sounds more like a crocos--t.

crococrap you meant to say...

What do you get if you cross an Elephant with a Rhino'?

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'ell if I know (Eliphino)

Yeah, but the crococrapter has been extinct for quite a few million. I think they found fossilized remains near the plastic skull of an allegorical alien. This only proves that ancient aliens by analogy are allied with artificial ardvaarks.

Does this explain why Ethel the Aardvark went Quantity Surveying?

Del suggests: "Maybe we should unsubscribe en-masse..."

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The whole Lot of us?

bunch of God hating liberals

Dear Gamza,

What was God doing while 6,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis during WWII? Or when millions were killed by Stalin in Russia... or when a US missile hit a school in Iraq causing some "collateral damage"?

Where the heck was He on 9-11?

If the All-mighty allowed this to happen, I'd rather remain being agnostic!

Hi doc,

It's against my policy to get into any discussion of God or politics on CR4. It's an unwinnable argument regardless which side one is on. My only comment here is that God does not prevent, or cause, anything bad that happens to man, whether it's by accident or by insanity. God is what resides within a person that helps them to cope with adversity and disaster. Never fails!

That's all I have to say on this matter.

-John

God is what resides within a person

Hi John,

I like such a kind of God!