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Will the U.S. Navy Build the World's Only Supercavitating Ship?

Posted December 10, 2014 10:10 AM by HUSH
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For the good of everyone, major combat operations by a military navy haven't occurred in decades. Though expeditionary exercises in support of air and ground campaigns have occurred in recent years, overall, the three countries with legitimate claims to a 'blue-water' navy (U.S, U.K, France) have done their best to keep the world's oceans peaceful.

However, away from these blue-water ships exist other serious 'brown-water' threats- small, fast ships that operate in coastal areas that outmaneuver destroyers and frigates, but still have the weapons to sink the most seaworthy of vessels. These threats largely consist of pirates, as well as small navies such as Iran and North Korea, which use them to control straits, seas and other waterway chokepoints. They're also cheap, and when enabled with swarming tactics, these so-called fast attack craft can overwhelm many targets.

The U.S. Navy needed a new type of ship to protect commerce in these contested situations, and began development of a littoral combat ship (LCS) in the late 1990s. Of course, many of the first programs were crushed due to political misgivings and reconfigured military budgets. When the first two LCSs arrived in U.S. fleets in 2010, they were too late to help combat renewed piracy off the African coast, before a 2012 Navy review that found the LCSs were underpowered, undermanned, had poor survivability and communications, prone to cyber-attacks, and found several other problems. While the 20 LCSs in service will remain, the Navy needs a new, more inventive brown-water vehicle, and Juliet Marine Systems of Portsmouth, N.H., may offer it.

About 20 months ago, the Ghost prototype was briefly mentioned in a blog post as it used supercavitation to increase knot speed. More details about Ghost have emerged since. To enable supercavitation (the world's first supercavitating ship) the catamaran hull is enveloped in gas to reduce friction. Four propellers are mounted on the front of the submerged hulls and these propellers pull the boat through the water and infuse the boundary layer with air bubbles, resulting in 900 times less hull friction compared to an LCS. Gas turbine engines supply 2,000 HP to each propeller and are mounted in the submerged hulls, meaning they're practically inaudible above surface. The result is a sea-based weapons platform that exceeds 50 kt.

Between the hulls, the cabin is supported by two serrated struts that can cut through the water as well as coastal debris. A gyroscopic stabilization mechanism keeps the cabin at the same height through wave weights of 10 ft., meaning weapons are more accurate and crew are more sure-footed. Fuel and steering systems are also located in the hulls, providing a low center of gravity and protection for essential systems. Weapons systems include a 20 mm rotary cannon, surface-to-surface missiles, and torpedoes. The ship is piloted via a joystick input similar to a helicopter, but can also be unmanned for deadheading.

Juliet Marine Systems, the builder of the Ghost, likens the design to a hybrid stealth airship and helicopter on a marine platform. It is primarily aluminum and stainless steel in construction. Superstructure design minimizes radar cross section and radar-absorbent coatings can make the ship nearly impossible to identify via electronic means. The Ghost can insert troops onto beachheads, penetrate blockades and perform a variety of reconnaissance tasks without ever being detected.

Perhaps most importantly, current Ghost vessels sell for $10 million each, and a larger, LCS-replacing variant costs $50 million-a bargain considering original LCSs were manufactured for an average of $300 million. Currently the U.S. Navy is evaluating how it could implement Ghosts and the owner of Juliet Marine, Greg Sancoff, is confident in the Ghost's capabilities, though he knows he has a tough sell ahead.

"As you know, the Navy likes big ships. Admirals want to stand on bridges of big ships. Our country has not readily adapted to new technologies in hydrodynamics," said Sancoff.

Here's to hoping the Navy opens its eyes, closes the checkbook and buys a few dozen Ghosts. At the very least, we'll have the first in-production supercavitating ship ever.

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12/10/2014 2:12 PM

This whole article looks off.

We're talking littoral, go-fast boats yet one of the graphics depicts a carrier in the background.

The schematic depicts a forward position dual counter-rotating cavitational...what? How would the engineer propose using propellers in a super-cavitating bubble?

A "serrated hull" doesn't do shite for the propellers that get there first!

And the language is clearly from a maritime-challenged author...Passengers? Rear? How about crew and aft...? These little clues make this an internet hoax-in-waiting.

So much more...so little time.

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12/10/2014 3:02 PM

...oh brother...I made the mistake of visiting the linked web site for this...thing.

What reputable naval engineer thinks that a "...central hull made mostly from aluminum and stainless steel, which makes it hard to detect with sonar" is in any way some form of an accurate statement?

A central hull which does not touch the water (SWATH configuration) is not going to be detected by SONAR. If one needs further tutelage on that point then it's too obvious to be understood.

And...the caption under the supposed pic of the squall "The supercavitation propulsion method used to speed up the Ghost is the same enabling the Russian Shkval torpedo" doesn't even gibe with their own methodology...primarily that a squall is rocket-propelled, not little propellers spinning around to make an air bubble...

Conveniently, no actual video or pictures exist on any site which shows the actual propulsion system.

Why drag up articles from 2012 for a failed venture anyway? The US DoD liked the idea so much...that they said nah...sell it overseas, we don't need it that bad.

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12/10/2014 3:28 PM

That's just the tongue in cheek graphics.

The yard were I worked, this type of layout was pretty normal, even though you'd never see it in real life.

Frankly, I think its all concept with no really proven design shown in the graphics.

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12/10/2014 6:05 PM

Yeah, I'd like to see the actual drive system...like in real photos.

Me thinks that the EDM seen at sea was conventionally powered.

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12/10/2014 6:51 PM

Yes, when we did a special ops craft that loads into a C5 a/b aircraft, this had the c5 parked on the sands of the beach as they were loading/unloading with other special ops crafts fighting a battle.

They gave me a actual air brushed photo of it, if I can find it, I'll post it. It's the same picture that made I beleive the April 1994 issue of Mechanics Illustrated

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12/11/2014 12:27 PM

You mean like this?

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12/11/2014 12:41 PM

U got'r ott'r

we lost to original contract to Halter Marine.

The winning contract had a mono hull, while our was a catamaran.

Since then they had up grades to address issues,

When we were building it, since the weight was so critical, I believe we had about 500 pounds to play with..... which isn't much, we were weighing filler material for welding as we were building it.

We were the first to splash, first for loading and the first for trials. All for knot.

I actually did a animated loading simulation of it, the yard gave me a release on it. I had entered it in an animation contest) I should see if I can find it....... of course its probably on one of my old 5 1/4 floppy's.... or if I'm lucky 3.5 floppy. And then blow the dust off my old computers that has this disk drive.

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12/11/2014 3:23 PM

even though, that doesn't look like a boat, more like a container???

Also looks to be quite a bit of room in the galaxy

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12/12/2014 9:18 PM

It was a container. For a Navy SEAL team. And it was designed to sink. And come up again if need be.

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12/15/2014 9:23 AM

We built some FRP patrol crafts for another country.

in the contract we had to proff that there are watertight., how we did that is we put a diver in the cabin, batten the hatches and sunk it. The diver checked for leaks.

Which is amazing, on our other contracts, a lot of our hatches, had to hold 4 PSI. which is difficult especially if minimum material were required.

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12/18/2014 12:49 PM

Funny, Halter's completion of the first of the IMPECCABLE SWATH class resulted in stress fracturing as well. Pretty much all around the propulsion motors and stuffing tubes.

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12/12/2014 3:30 PM

My mistake, it was actually the March 1994 issue of Popular Science. dam memory

Wow, internet is something.

The picture for this was edited (lower right), because as I remember, the original actually also showed a beach scene in the background with a C5 unloading a MK V.

here's the link, page 28

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12/12/2014 3:47 PM

Sorry wrong link, this is it page 28

popular science

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12/10/2014 3:04 PM

The U.S. Navy does have a bit of inertia, and it shows up in the strangest places.

A friend of mine worked at a company which made instruments and controls for ships. Their biggest customer was the U.S. Navy.

Modern ships use digital techniques these days, but some of the Navy's brass still like that Auld Skool look to their ships' bridges. The helmsman's wheel, for example, is all for show. Little do they know that, behind the scenes, it connects to a digital rotary encoder about the size of a marshmallow.

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12/10/2014 6:45 PM

Actual, navy ships use redundancy, an example, they would have a digital compass and a standard magnetic compass.

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12/10/2014 11:19 PM

Somehow, I am just concern that the ghost ship is sitting too high up on the sea surfaces compared to the other "speedboat" shown in the blog. This mean a "larger target" for enemies.

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12/10/2014 11:22 PM

Well, in the pic they didn't nail those speedboats once spotted on the horizon and so, if this pic were to be taken literally, sitting high like that is the least of their worries.

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12/10/2014 11:29 PM

Even after having all these equipments,so far NOBODY in this world is capable to control petty somalian pirates.

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Sorry forgot to add, I am the one dealing with pump calculation-- Just for to get an identity for my anonymous posts.

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12/13/2014 10:16 AM

We come to the point that everything and persons can be known digitally, yet i wonder why criminals, mobster, pirates and war criminals is still out there.

If the hubble telescope can magnify images and heat signatures from the distant galaxy, how much more the closest-Earth.

It's about a time or two, Earth will be in a digital-political transition, the biggest in the history sooner or later.

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12/11/2014 7:48 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus-class_hydrofoil

Look we built these at Boeing Marine years ago and in sea trials they were undefeated. This concept is nothing new. Program was cancelled due to politics.

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12/11/2014 8:16 AM

The variable here, and its not so much a variable is the defense against these also change.

when we built one of three proto-type Fast boats for the navy to land a contract.

Sitting in the conference room (All internal people that worked for the shipyard, no navy personal) that these boats are 'undefeated' also. They didn't used that term, but they were very boisterous and confident. Overly so I felt. Stating how fast they were, stealthy.

What I did was rain on their parade. And I put this out there. With these thin Aluminum hulls traveling at fast speed, the best defense is to put trash in the water. such as logs.

if they hit trash like that going at 70 knots, it would tear it open like a pop can.

Yes, it got real quiet after I said that.

I added to it, that if your going into the Navy with that attitude, you better be prepared for questions like this. Needless to say, they of course didn't take my advice.

During testing the Navy asked them why our bulkhead joints were cracking. And instead of responding that we would put doubler plates on the high stress areas with a more malleable aluminum.

Instead the response was, "The bulkhead joints crack because the Navy is too hard on our ships."

I could not believe it. Needless to say, we lost the contract, and if you look at the winner of the MK V SOC. the winner had the same problem, but they mitigated it more intelligently.

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12/11/2014 8:25 AM

We could bust a 12" log at speed without deforming the foils. The foils were made out of 17-4 PH and were very tough. The major problem was with very tiny cracks that were formed in the weldments due to the dynamic action of the foils flexing.

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12/11/2014 9:00 AM

that the problem what they had on the MK5, only with the MK5 every thing was made from High Tensile Strength Aluminum because weight was a driving factor because it had to be able to load in to a C5 Galaxy Transport.

Because of the strength needed what was sacrificed was fracturability. a heavy gauge Aluminum hull is not much protection.

When you lifted the hull on its (4) lifting points the craft sagged a good 6". Naval architect said no problem, it suppose to be that way, which I'm sure was.

We had (2) 3,000 HP MTU diesels in in it. That alone put quite a bit of stress on the boat.

I have to say, it was a fun one (challenge) to build.

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12/12/2014 3:52 AM

HMS Victory was undefeated too....

(Well if you discount old father time and deathwatch beetle)

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12/12/2014 7:32 AM

The craftsmanship on these ships were amazing. It was art.

I'm glad you brought that up.

With our shipyard building Minesweepers, with minesweepers being mainly wood hulled and frame ships. We were the only yard that had the experience to laminate, The USS Constitution had to have up grades the society came to us to rebuild and refit its rudder.

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I see your HMS Victory and raise you the USS Constitution.

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12/12/2014 9:58 AM

Arrr Jim Lad,

We have the Mary Rose and chests of Warbows to see you off with!

Mind, it's a bit of a wreck... literally

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Warbows,..... impressive.

All we have is,......

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12/12/2014 4:09 AM

OK Nice ship. Pirates are also using speed boats to capture cargo ships.It looks like pirates also have similar boats through other channel from same company After all boat manufacturing is a business for some companies.

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12/12/2014 7:39 AM

Speaking of pirates and the like. here's a interesting tidbit.

When we developed one of the proto-type MK V SOC for the US Navy, choose a Cougar Limited out of the UK to design our Multi-Hull MK V SOC.

Why did we do that? because Cougar was the boat of choice from smugglers.

The people from Cougar were an interesting bunch. I enjoyed what they had to say.

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03/09/2015 9:09 AM

Popular Mechanics? Graphic looks familiar.

I am still rather partial to the "swarm boat" concept. Cheap, unmanned, rapidly deployable, annoying as hell to larger vessels. Downright devastating to smaller boats. Death by a thousands cuts is still dead.

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